OBAMA/BIDEN '08

[knixphan]

Barring a last-minute Edwards embrace, I think Biden gives Barack exactly what he needs to take McCain out.

I'd personally prefer Boxer, but I think we can only do one history-maker per ticket. Nascar needs to feel safe with a WASP running next to the man of color, and Biden kicks azz on foreign policy.

Possible?

[TwilightGardener]

1. Biden released a statement about Obama's speech. I think he's going to jump.

[Lobster Martini]

3. Gotta link to the statement? Didn't see it on Biden's Web site.

Would be interested to read it. Cheers.

LM

[TwilightGardener]

5. Sorry, I do not. Chris Matthews read the statement from Biden on his show.

[trained specialist]

19. initially your thread looked like "Obama Bin Laden"

[Blondiegrrl]

52. LOL ... Is that like Gaydolph Titler?

[Bigleaf]

20. Here is what Biden said about the Obama race speech

Obama's speech also drew praise from one of his former Democratic presidential rivals who has not endorsed him or Clinton. Delaware Sen. Joe Biden called it powerful, truthful and "one of most important speeches we've heard in a long time"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080318/ap_on_el_pr/obama_race

[Eurobabe]

54. I heard Chris say something like Biden is effusive about Obama

but don't quote me. Effusive, ebullent? Some big E word, I was editing a paper and half listening. :shrug:

[Malikshah]

2. I'm fine with Obama, but Biden? Please. His calculated emotional

outbursts and voting record makes Obama look like Kucinich.

[olkaz]

27. There's not a better guy on foreign policy.

Say what you will, but he has the best plans on how to get out of Iraq quickly and responsibly. He compliments Obama in a big way.

His experience in foreign policy would be a huge plus in the general.

[Malikshah]

50. Really? Nope. Look at his record on the rest of the region.

Only a few chapters ahead of GWB on his knowledge of the region as a whole.

[knixphan]

4. all I could find was an Iraq statement

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/48744486_senator-biden-issues-statement-five-year-anniversa

[knixphan]

6. quote

"...This is not about experience. It's not about change. It's about action. Who among us is going to be able to, on Day 1, step in and end the war?"

JB

[galaxy21]

24. Don't you remember what Biden said about Obama?

I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man.



What?!

[olkaz]

28. That was eons ago in presidental election time

He regretted saying that. He misspoke, period.

It doesn't change the fact that he would be a fantastic VP.

[goclark]

60. I'm African American and I'm willing

to give Biden a pass on some of his remarks.

I was so upset when I heard his articulate etc. comments!

But,I have changed my view since then.

He apologized and I believe that he meant it.

And, in light of Obama's RACE speech,I know why.

I think that Obama gave not only a challenge to White America, he gave one to Black America.

He wants us to get above all the anger we feel and try our best to get along.

I think that Biden would be an excellent partner with Obama. I could support that ticket and I think a huge segment of the AA 's would accept Biden.

What would be extremely hard to accept is the continuing
dirty tricks ,at the expense of AA's ,that Hillary and Bill have done to us. Not just to AA's but to all people of good will that long for a leader that has CONTENT in his/her CHARACTER.

[butterfly77]

64. I renember what he said about Hillary..

he said he would no way like to be on her team taking orders from Bill...

[rndmprsn]

7. i think Obama/Biden 08 would be a great choice...

it brings change and deep experience/credentials together.

my first choice was obama/webb...but biden has the experience that would seal the deal IMHO

[BumRushDaShow]

8. Biden is a war hawk. Such a pairing would be a mistake.

Look at his record of support for military interventions back even to Reagan's nonsensical Panama and Grenda invasions. I don't understand this support for this man. It's also ironic to support someone who says nonsense like this in describing Obama:

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

:eyes:

[jillan]

12. Obama, in so many words, told everyone to shut up about that.

He knew Biden mispoke and publicly forgave him right after the incident, and defended Biden at
a debate where this was brought up.

[yodermon]

21. I know, but it's more fodder for the haters. n/t

[BeyondGeography]

22. One of the campaign's great moments

:thumbsup:

[BumRushDaShow]

44. I am a resident of PA and Biden is a neighboring Senator

That was not his first time at running off at the mouth. He had another gaffe a couple years ago where he said:

"I've had a great relationship. In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking!

That one isn't much different from the nonsense that Clinton spewed the other day about Mahatma Gandhi "run<ning> a gas station in St. Louis".

And another bullshit remark that he rattled off in his paternalistic pseudo-authoritarian way included his brain-dead comparison of white Iowa school systems to the black D.C. school system:

“There's less than 1 percent of the population of Iowa that is African-American. There is probably less than 4 or 5 percent that are minorities. What is in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you're dealing with,”

I am NOT going to defend his off-the-cuff insults and why people here defend this sort of crap is beyond me. :eyes:

[olkaz]

29. Except...

He's the only candidate that offered a real solution to getting out of Iraq. That, to me, is pretty damned significant.

[BumRushDaShow]

45. He is and always will be a war hawk.

Look up his record. A leopard never changes its spots and after 35 years in the Senate, I'm not going to hold my breath hoping he will.

[Qutzupalotl]

9. That would be a dream ticket.

Liberal stances with broad appeal. Young voters plus national security creds.

On edit: think what this pairing, in this order, would do to erase Biden's gaffe quoted above.

[book_worm]

10. I think Biden will be the next high profile endorsement of Obama

plus Obama won Delaware handily in the primary.

[jillan]

11. Biden is exactly who Obama needs.

He will help with McCain.
Foreign Policy expert...he can shut McCain up.

And provides the ticket with the experience that Obama is lacking.

And yes, he is a devout Catholic - which could quiet some concerns certain people have about Obama's
church.

BUT - I can't see it. I can't see Biden taking a back seat to Obama. He is too outspoken.
I would prefer to see Biden as SoS.

[Froward69]

13. I concour

but not with your sig line.

Frankly Hillary is baiting Obama into mistakes for her own selfish reasons. if we loose the GE i will never forgive HER. nor those whom refuse to accept she is not the will of MOST dems.

Democracy is accepting as winner the one whom receives the majority of votes. (if it were Joe Biden we would agree.)

[jillan]

49. Funny how supporters of different candidates look at the same thing and see two different things.

If we lose the GE, I blame Obama for not being ready for primetime, among many other things.

[earthlover]

59. Can a candidate who basically endorsed the Republican nominee be ready for prime time?

I think not!

[Froward69]

62. the fact remains

Hillary would rather see a loss in the GE, if she is not the nominee. even if she is the nominee and looses she wont mind as she has already endorsed mcaint over Obama. so be it..

[TheDonkey]

14. Biden would be good. He is also folksy and charismatic

a great speaker as well. He comes from such a small state but I think he would play well in Pennsylvania, WV, and Ohio.

[goclark]

42. Biden and Huckabee

I could get behind that debate.

He would not be my first choice for VP but I believe it would help Obama in the General.

[ms liberty]

15. I could go for that...

Biden has a solid slightly-left-of-center voting record, good union record, good on women's issues, strong on civil rights, and knows his foreign policy and his SCOTUS. He's on our side, although any of us could find a few votes or positions they disagree with.

Biden would be awesome in the debate. too. I'd take him hands down on any of the Replicans that might end up as their VP nominee. It would be a joy to watch that one.

[cbayer]

16. "Nascar needs to feel safe with a WASP running next to the man of color."

Something about this statement in your OP is really disturbing to me. Really disturbing.

[knixphan]

23. elaborate

If there's a misinterpretation, I'd be happy to clarify. No perjoratives were intended, but in the post-Wright atmosphere, one can't deny certain realities - and Barack needs as many crossovers as possible...

[cbayer]

31. After giving it some thought,

I think what disturbs me is the notion that we would pander to bigots, which is what I think you meant by "nascar", by choosing a WASP to be the running mate.

I don't disagree that democrats will need crossover votes in the GE. It's just a question of what we might be willing to do to get those votes.

[knixphan]

39. ahh! I get it-

I agree - pandering to bigots shouldn't be necessary.

Of course I think there's a 'tweener' category in our population... folks who might-or-might-not be comfortable with a ticket that doesn't appear to reflect their demographic...

(And I'm a person of color, who would absolutely love someone like Deval Patrick on the ticket...)

...But the big game is to get through the GE without giving the repubs any ammunition, and talking heads on Fox would no doubt be all too happy to point out (repeatedly) the absence of a 'traditional' candidate if/when Barack runs with another person of color...

So I figure let's not even give them the opportunity... And Biden ain't bad.

[Debi]

17. 100% for this ticket!

:bounce:

[Peregrine Took]

18. That surely doesn't sweeten the deal for me. Yuck! ABB! (Anyone but

Biden!)

[BklynChick]

25. love that ticket

[Egnever]

26. I so want that ticket!

I have been dreaming of it for a year now. I dont think Joe will step away from his chairmanship though. I am not really sure I want him to either.

[Bensthename]

30. I also think that would be Obama's best choice.

In my opinion he was the best in the debates and has great ideas, common sense, and tons of experience.
Or Bill Richardson.

[knixphan]

32. over at Political Inquirer...Pushing for Barack to choose now

http://politicalinquirer.com/2008/03/08/wanted-running-mate-for-barack-obama-must-not-be-hillary-clinton/

Meanwhile Edwards is mum...

Asked if he would take a job in either a Clinton or Obama administration, John Edwards replied, "I want to serve my country in whatever way I can."

[rox63]

33. I'd love to see Biden on the ticket with Obama

Obama/Biden '08! :bounce:

[Vinca]

34. I'm kind of liking Richardson today. He had the balls to step forward

and say what needed to be said. Still waiting on the others.

[knixphan]

35. yeah...

I've been going back-and-forth between them...

And I think that Rich would greatly help with the latino vote in TX...

But I wonder how many other swing states could benefit from a Biden-type

I want them BOTH in the cabinet, no matter what!

[knixphan]

36. just found this link to add

http://obamabiden08.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/vice-president-joe-biden/

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

37. I totally agree

Either that, or Secretary of State. I think Obama/Biden would be unbeatable. I'd love to see him wipe the floor with the republicans in a debate on foreign policy, it would be remarkable. Only thing is, he needs to learn how to not talk above their heads and keep it simple. His intelligence sometmes gets away from him. That's why I believe he wasn't able to gain any traction as a candidate. He's so intelligent, it's hard to condense that knowledge into the convenient 10 second soundbite Americans can grasp. If he can accomplish that, unbeatable!

[knixphan]

38. good points there.

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

47. I call it "Kerry Syndrome"

Sometimes people are so smart, they can't figure out how to "dumb it down". I think Kerry's biggest problem last election was that he couldn't communicate his complex solutions into something that the regular folks could understand. Is it any wonder with this nations short attention span? It must be short, and at maximum a 10th grade comprehension level. That's one reason the republicans have had such an advantage, there are many others, but, mostly they are able to simplify their message. Of course, one could argue that it's because they have a simplistic view as it stands, but, whatever the reason, it works.

[nsd]

40. Biden's a good guy. That would be a strong ticket. /nt

[wileedog]

41. Two plagiarists on one ticket?

:hide:

j/k

[knixphan]

43. :)

[knixphan]

46. washington post mention

"...Richardson implicitly helps Obama answer questions about his readiness to be commander in chief. More than any other candidate in the Democratic race, Richardson based his campaign on his foreign policy resume. Along with Joe Biden, he has more experience in that area than any of their rivals..."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/21/five_ways_the_richardson_endor.html?hpid=topnews

[IsItJustMe]

48. The best choice for my money.

[democrattotheend]

51. Biden is my #2 choice.

Richardson is #1. Richardson is perfect - he has foreign policy and executive experience, and he helps with the Latino vote. I just hope the womanizing rumors are not true.

[knixphan]

53. I'd be happy with either...Or Dodd even...

Waiting for Joe to say something...

[ecstatic]

55. too risky. Biden is too gaffe-prone nt

[knixphan]

56. anyone running with O won't be doing the heavy lifting speechwise...

[Milo_Bloom]

57. No Thanks. Let's keep the war mongers off the ticket, please.

[knixphan]

58. shout it out

Who's the hands-down best choice for O's chances in GE? Would be interesting to see the consensus...

[Steely_Dan]

61. No Way

Why should Obama ride on Biden shirt-tails?

-P

[knixphan]

63. Depending on the 'Judas' stuff

Richardson may benefit or suffer as a veep consideration, dunno how to read it...

I still want some Bradley insurance.