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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:39 PM
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Why is Hillary Unreasonably Negative against Obama?
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 05:45 PM by quantass
Still scratching my head over the Michigan / Florida revote and how it was Obama's fault for the problems?

Here's a list of many of the negative attacks she's hurled at him: http://clintonattacksobama.pbwiki.com/Incident+Tracker .

I know you want to win Clintons but geez this seems a bit much.

This great link was posted in another thread as a reply. Thought i'd make it more known if it wasnt already.

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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:41 PM
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1. Great Link!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:41 PM
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2. The Clintons view politics as a blood sport. nt
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:41 PM
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3. That's a great site that was started back during the South Carolina primary...
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 05:43 PM by VolcanoJen
... by the very, very excellent people at the very, very excellent AA blog Jack and Jill Politics. I've posted it in response to many posters asking for "proof" that the Clinton Camp has attacked Obama, primarily on a racial basis.

I've made a few entries to that Wiki as events warrant, myself.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:47 PM
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9. Thanks!
Yes i was reading a thread and saw your link in a reply. Had to repost. Great link!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:53 PM
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14. I always got a kick out of the "99 Problems" smear invented of whole cloth...
... by Taylor Marsh. You'll find it on that site. :-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:29 PM
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28. Yeah, thanks Jen and quantass..
they would have to start the alphabet over again to list all the attacks from hilary on Obama.

I'm saving this one for posterity.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:42 PM
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4. Why is Obama?
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:52 PM
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12. In this case the attacks against Hillary are justified and factual. n/t
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:52 PM
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13. ahhhhhh
thanks for clearing that up

:eyes:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:54 PM
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15. Has the "Washington Post gives Clinton 'Four Pinocchios" over Bosnia Sniper Fire Lie" attack...
... made the list yet?

Can you edit this Wiki yourself? Might want to add it. }(
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:03 PM
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17. Don't let Jimney Cricket hear ya
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:08 PM
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19. Again, you should really be allowed to edit Hillary's Wiki yourself.
Your claims should bear scrutiny. It would, at the very least, be amusing.

How many C-17's carrying the First Lady landed in Bosnia? Did you even read through that entire thread you're so happy to link to? I'm thinking, no, you didn't, because it's debunking in its own right.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:11 PM
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21. I'll let everyone else read the thread
and come to their own conclusions, Pinnochio
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:18 PM
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23. i used to like you maddie
But now i think your rhetoric is so detached from reality that it must be intentional.


Im sorry to say that i must add you to my growing listed of ignored trolls.
I thought better of you.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:23 PM
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25. oh well
your loss, hon.

:shrug:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:42 PM
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5. She's fearful and desperate.
buh-bye Hillary.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:43 PM
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6. Cause it is all the supporters for Obama faults
don't you read the DU headlines?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:44 PM
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7. Is this your first campaign? n/t
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 05:45 PM by QC
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:46 PM
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8. Clearly, she's lost the nomination. And clearly, she doesn't like it.
She felt she was entitled to it and couldn't believe that a brash young senator outflanked her, applying for the same job.

So she offers smears and race-baiting via surrogates to tear him down in lieu of having anything to offer voters as positive or substantive to bolster her own rationale.

Classic sore loser.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:48 PM
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10. The fact that any SDs are still considering her is mind-boggling to me.
Something's gotta give...


:hi:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:51 PM
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11. Hi, babylonsister. You're right. There will come a reckoning soon, I think.
There are statewide and county Dem organizations and these are the folks who have to promote Democrats in their districts.

Part of the choice for them is how good are their chances with Obama heading the ticket and how good are they with Hillary Clinton heading it.

Obama wins that match up pretty convincingly.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:40 PM
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29. I think something's gonna give.
I see a slow, painful (for Clinton) bleed of superdelegates, of increasing national importance, in the days leading up to the PA Primary.

Bill Richardson did something ballsy... he showed other superdelegates that yes, it really is OK to cross the Clintons in the name of our country and its leadership, and still emerge with a political career. That they're not omnipotent. And I think many more will follow.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:57 PM
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16. Thanks for that compilation link! K&R
Doesn't even include the 3 am ad or both the Clintons endorsing McCain (Bill most recently in reference to "patriotism").
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:08 PM
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18. It's all she's got.
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 06:37 PM by tabasco
She can't beat Obama in leadership or on the issues, so she is using filthy, gutter politics to try to bring down Obama.

Hillary cannot elevate herself so she must bring Obama down.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:11 PM
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20. I think she knows him much better then anyone on this board, maybe
she is only speaking truth about the young Senator. He is not what they think he is.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:16 PM
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22. The Contest is for POTUS, Not Head Girl Scout
What a glass jaw Obama peeps have.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:20 PM
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24. Exactly why Hillary is losing.
She is unable to demonstrate the leadership necessary to lead this country.

That is why she has resorted to gutter politics.

Gutter politics does not make a politician a "real fighter", it just exposes their weak character.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:19 PM
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33. "Gutter politics does not make a politician a "real fighter", it just...
exposes their weak character."


I just thought your comment should be seen over and over again, when will people wake up!
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:25 PM
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26. actually, its for the next democratic POTUS
which is a post with more ethics than your standard politician.

She is failing to reach this threshold.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:19 PM
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32. so why is your candidate losing?
:shrug:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:26 PM
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27. It seems very clear to me what's happening
everytime she hurls an invective at Obama.

She and her campaign are so full of negative shit and this goes way back to at least Oct 2002 that the only things she's got are lies, obfuscation, and smears..just like karl rove gave out against Kerry, and Gore to name two distinguished men to whom hilary couldn't hold a candle.

Who knew hilary was so like bush? It took a primary against a winner like Obama for it to all hang out.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:09 PM
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30. Because she's lived with a sense of ENTITLEMENT and will stop at nothing to gain power. n/t
J
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:16 PM
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31. Because he's in her way.
It's her turn, dammit, and this young upstart better learn his place!

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Pssst... say goodnight, Hillary.



GObama! GObama!

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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:24 PM
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34. plus you forgot to mention he stole her black voter base, by being black
because they usually vote for every white face with a D after their name.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:31 PM
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35. That, too!
:thumbsup:

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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:40 PM
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38. nah, he stole it by being more honorable
She hates it when people can't be bought, bullied or blackmailed

makes her CWAZY

;-)
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:35 PM
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36. I guess she has to carry on the Bush dynasty?
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:37 PM
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37. To borrow an African American Colloquialism
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 07:38 PM by crankychatter
She might need some "Churchin'."
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