Making a list, checking it twice.

[cornermouse]

Hillary’s positive aspects
Determination, mental strength, and persistence
Organization and planning
Experience and knowledge
Personal experience of sexism
Extremely intelligent
Chelsea and Bill

Hillary’s negative aspects
The dynasty thing
The DLC thing and the fact that she has become one with the conservative democrats.
Support of the "buy insurance" plan rather than national healthcare
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Obama’s positive aspects
Optimism
Personal experience of racism
Not born and raised in a wealthy family
(by the way, see Bill Clinton for reference on how they’re likely to treat him if he gets into the White House. D.C. people tend to view people who weren’t born wealthy as undeserving outsiders.)
Also extremely intelligent
Ability to attract people and capture their loyalty
Michelle, Malia, and Sasha

Obama’s negative aspects
Relative inexperience
His plans appear to be mostly based on optimism and may not take accurately reflect reality, especially in D.C.
Support of the "buy insurance" plan rather than national healthcare.
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Before we get into it about the order, I did it on the Ladies first concept.

[Angela Shelley]

1. Where do you place "warped perception of reality"?

[emilyg]

5. Both are guilty.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. mental strength?

Yeah, right.

[cornermouse]

6. Mental strength, yes.

8 years of republican non-stop harassment, accusations, and threats while they were in the White House had to have taken a lot of strength to survive.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. You must have needed a lot of mental strength to come up with that argument.

:rofl:

[cornermouse]

12. If Obama can demonstrate the same strength

I will relax and consider the democratic party very lucky. So far he hasn't had to show us whether he's that strong. He hasn't really come under the type of attack that Hillary weathered for 8 years.

[scheming daemons]

3. Additions to your list....

You can put these in the "positive" or "negative" category, depending on your point of view


Hillary:

Ability to dodge gunfire in a war zone and mentally shield her daughter and others from same
Ability to effectively avoid answering controversial questions until such time as she needs a distraction
Ability to kiss and make up with those that once accused her and her husband of murder

Obama:

Ability hate the sin without hating the sinner (Wright)
Ability to magically make his poll numbers rise even while under constant attack
Ability to cut through the bullshit and get people to talk about issues that they need to talk about, but don't want to talk about

[cornermouse]

8. Big difference.

I'm trying to make a list that is accurate and not tilted toward one candidate or the other. While not a surprise, you're here campaigning. There's a difference.

[Muttocracy]

4. the organization and planning hasn't come through in her campaign

though she is known for it otherwise.

I'd put Bill in the negative at this point in history. When she was running as herself I liked it better than after Iowa when she became former co-president with Bill as current attack dog.

The Bosnia stuff is what really put me over the edge.

I like your approach - I'm a listmaker too!

[cornermouse]

7. I think it helps me keep perspective and possibly is a little bit of

an antidote as well. Reminds me of what's important.

[apocalypsehow]

9. Thank God! When I first saw you OP I thought another *ignore* kerfluffle was about to get kicked up.

;-)

[cornermouse]

10. That wasn't the intention.

I've been trying to organize my thoughts and thought I'd throw it up against the wall to see how it looked. :)