Obama campaign has trouble telling the truth - caught with his handwriting down

[TacticalPeek]

Source: Politico

Obama had greater role on liberal survey

By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 3/31/08 4:35 AM EST


During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than his aides now acknowledge in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion — positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he has projected during his presidential campaign.

The evidence comes from an amended version of an Illinois voter group’s detailed questionnaire, filed under his name during his 1996 bid for a state Senate seat.

Late last year, in response to a Politico story about Obama’s answers to the original questionnaire, his aides said he “never saw or approved” the questionnaire.

They asserted the responses were filled out by a campaign aide who “unintentionally mischaracterize his position.”

But a Politico examination determined that Obama was actually interviewed about the issues on the questionnaire by the liberal Chicago nonprofit group that issued it. And it found that Obama — the day after sitting for the interview — filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one answer.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html


It's better to just tell the truth up front. This would have been an unnoticed questionnaire if they had just not lied about it. There is a pattern here with Obama's early evasions and disavowals regarding Rev Wright. The starry-eyed press will let him off, but the Republican TV ads would shred him.

[scheming daemons]

1. Pssstt!..... Obama's a (*gasp*) LIBERAL!

....


:eyes:

[NDambi]

2. Yeah Obama's Liberal...Partyyyyyyyyyy!!!

[TacticalPeek]

3. Exactly. They should not have tried to pretend otherwise.

It hands your enemies a sword to use against you.

[Zueda]

5. Well then this pales to the two-handed bastard sword hillary handed to the GOP.

[Zueda]

10. This is why Hillary deserves a tough senate primary challenge in 2012. n/t

[OzarkDem]

14. No, he's a prevaricator

Not the quality we need in a president who needs to restore trust and cooperation abroad.

[redqueen]

19. You mean as in "I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning"?

That kind of prevaricating?

[Cant trust em]

37. It's a good thing he never came under sniper fire then

I'm sure that there would be a lot of prevarication going on then.

[Cheap_Trick]

40. and hillary's that person?

:rofl:NAFTA:rofl:Bosnia snipers:rofl:FALN PARDONS:rofl:travelgate:rofl::rofl:Ireland:rofl:Macedonia:rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:



The USA Today/Gallup survey clearly explains why Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) is losing. Asked whether the candidates were "honest and trustworthy," Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) won with 67 percent, with Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) right behind him at 63. Hillary scored only 44 percent, the lowest rating for any candidate for any attribute in the poll.

Hillary simply cannot tell the truth.


And you call Obama a "prevaricator"? Too fucking funny. Thanks for the amusement.

[MattBaggins]

48. Prevaricator

is that some kind of sniper?

[redqueen]

15. Is he now? I thought he was a conservative Reagan-worshipping mole.

Random, desperate flailing is now at ludicrous speed.

[scheming daemons]

17. He's whatever the Clinton campaign thinks will work for a particular audience...

In central and western PA, he is a liberal.

In Southeastern PA, he is a closet Reagan-ite.

[merh]

4. OMG

do you mean he is more liberal than he admits

that he is trying to win a race that requires support of all sorts, like moderates and liberals and even conservatives

don't tell the others, they don't think he is progressive enough, they think he is a centrist

BTW, did this include sniper fire or having inside information and experience without national security clearance or bringing peace to some land -- just wondering about the extent of the non-truths - how far you accept them as mistakes and politics as usual when they are distortions of facts and/or if you over look them when that is what they really could be.

[DerekJ]

6. Damn, I thought he brokered a peace deal in Ireland ...

Turned out he is one of those "God Damn Liberals"

[Kittycat]

25. No - only saved a little girl carrying a rose from sniper fire.

[DerekJ]

27. dupe

[DerekJ]

28. Are you sure?!! I thought he opened the boarders in Kosovo!!!

:rofl:

[JayFredMuggs]

7. Candidates evolve,, grow, and become more informed

We are NOT voting for an Obama of 1996, nor a Hillary Clinton of 1996.

And did you bother to read the part of the article by the person who interviewed him in 96?

"
That “was a long time ago,” she said. “And anybody who hasn’t refined their ideas over that period of time ... is not anybody I’m interested in,” she said. Dobry asserted Obama’s views have evolved mostly at the margins and that he’s still the same person she met in the 1990s."

OMG, he's matured, and refined. HORRIBLE!

[merh]

16. Welcome to DU, JFM

:hi:

thank you for the post

[TacticalPeek]

21. So he should stand up and say that, not pretend he is not liberal and blame his staff.

If he has matured and refined his positions, say so - defend them even.

Instead he claimed to not have reviewed the questionnaire, that his staff answered the thing for him and got it wrong. Now his handwriting turns up on the damn questionnaire itself. That's whack.

It is not about being "liberal". (Personally I think he is about as liberal as Joe Lieberman)

It is about the damage that lying does to a campaign.

[Mezzo]

38. along with his father getting here with help from the Kennedy's and Rev Wright's "just a crazy uncle

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

All sizzle, no steak.

[babylonsister]

8. Wow. Grasp at straws much? Here's some...grasp away!

[indimuse]

42. NO!

Obama's more accurate theme is starting to catch on ...Catch me if you Can..



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZydhWoEHCdM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCNQmBJXrjM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-YoB5mnZs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kExctvzrIvI&feature=related (this one some of the homemade graphics are silly..)

Obama-->Rezko-->Auchi-->Saddam Hussein & Muammar al-Gadaffi -WRight and Farrakhan

[Hugabear]

9. So in other words...

#1 - Obama never denied filling out the questionnaire

#2 - He filled it out himself, instead of relying on his aides to do so

#3 - He's *gasp* liberal on many issues

Can you give us anything that says that Obama himself ever denied filling out the questionnaire?

[UALRBSofL]

11. OP thanks for posting the article

I suppose he forgot about the questionaires but it's good they were able to retrieve them so Obama can correct his position that they actually exist.

[redqueen]

22. Did he claim they didn't exist?

[Double T]

12. Further proof of the fraud; tells HIS supporters what THEY want to here..........

while actually saying and doing SOMETHING completely different.

[OzarkDem]

13. Shape shifter Obama

Sorry, but I can't get behind a candidate who never tells the truth about his position on the issues. No way. Can you imagine what this guy would be like in foreign policy, telling each leader a different story?

No one will trust him in diplomatic circles.

[JayFredMuggs]

18. So we know you didn't vote for Bush

Who will you be voting for when Obama is the Dem nominee?

Do you really think any of the positions listed in the article are inconsistent with Obama's more mature and far-reaching views today?

If so, which ones?

Did you vote for Kerry who voted for the war before he voted against it?

[shifting_sands]

24. Are you kidding

If you have ever voted for any candidate through the years for anything, you voted for a shape-shifter. Tell us what candidate have you voted for that didn't change positions during the years. If you think they have not you are naive beyond belief.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

34. Loki, Qora, Metamorphmagi....he has the power

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

20. More liberal?

Excellent!

[DemGa]

23. More proof it's hard to tell what people are getting with Obama --NT

[GoldieAZ49]

26. Gee, Obama not be honest about his past, there is a shocker

NOT

[JayFredMuggs]

30. Yeah, he keeps leaving out all the tales of sniper fire

From when he was elected first black President of Harvard Law Review.

There were riots in Harvard Square Cambridge, and his helicopter had to use evasive landing measures, and he was forced to put on a flack jacked, but he won the election anyway!

Do you Hillary supporters just continue to ignore the obvious?

[GoldieAZ49]

33. Oh geeze him too?

all their sniper stories are a joke.

[Umbram]

29. Every candidate softens their positions while running

Of course, that won't prevent the Clinton supporters from lapping this up because they are running low on fake-outrage-fuel.

[uponit7771]

31. There's nothing in the article that negates the assertion about the campaign aide

[here_is_to_hope]

32. Oh boy, more 'Politco"...gee, I am shocked I tell ya!

Is this what you got there Mr. Poster? This shit?


Bleeech....

plonk!

[Pawel K]

35. And it starts, the liberal label. Maybe unlike all the other pussy democrats

Obama will actually come out and say that being liberal isn't a bad thing. We'll see.

[TacticalPeek]

36. And it starts, switching the topic to being 'liberal' instead of the evasion and deception.

I can understand the impulse, but that's a pretty weak mind trick that only works with those already believers.

[Lucky 13]

39. I just don't know what to think about him.

I'm just so confused! You Hillary supporters first tell me that he's too Republican. Then you tell me that he is secretly too liberal. It's all too much for my fragile little mind. Without a consistent negative message from you, how will I ever know what I should think?

[progressoid]

41. Damn, more liberal huh. I was hoping he was a little more Liebermanish.

:eyes:

[EFerrari]

43. . . .

:spank:

[anonymous171]

44. Whoah, first race baiting. Now use of the "L" word.

Really...:eyes:

[UALRBSofL]

45. Seems this story made a little traction today

Seems the media is beginning to question his statements a little closer and beginning to paint his as a standard politician.

[Maddy McCall]

46. ^

[zulchzulu]

47. He took out a couple snipers WHILE he filled out the Questionnaire

I think Hillary was there and can fill in the details...