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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:22 AM
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BILL CLINTON says lack of job creation CAUSES anti-immigration and anti-trade sentiments
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 01:24 AM by futureliveshere
Here's Bill Clinton expressing a similar sentiment as Obama did today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYi_qNWdjgw

The text:

From The Charlie Rose Show, 12/15/07. Hats off the Jed report for finding it.

"So I think that the rise of this is sort of crystallized for a lot of people, that I think doubling healthcare premiums has had a lot to do with this -- the further loss of health insurance coverage in America. So there's a lot of economic anxiety. In the Republican Party, it expresses itself as this sort of very hard line against immigration. In the Democratic Party, it expresses itself in a very hard line against trade. But the real problem is we haven't created enough good new jobs."


Another subject on which the Clintons disagree I guess. Seriously how do we trust Hillary Clinton to solve our problems if she cannot even SEE them? I won't even bother talking about McCain.

edited title.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:34 AM
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1. Thanks for signing NAFTA, Bill....
And I know some people here are going to defend Clinton on this issue, but remember the old line, "The Buck Stops Here".

And as much as dislike Perot he was right about that "Big Sucking Sound".
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:25 PM
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16. Thank Bush and the GOP
Even the unions disagree with you on that one.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:37 AM
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2. Did he say people stopped hunting and going to church during the prosperity of the 90's?
Because the only small town people who do that are bitter. They don't enjoy the finer things in life that Ivy League millionaires in Chicago that are pals with millionaires and billionaire Oprah do.
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:21 AM
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3. Lets not point fingers at millionaires.. Your candidate beats obama by many miles in that
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:24 AM
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4. My millionaire friends are better than your millionaire friends... sheesh.
Pot kettle black.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:21 PM
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10. Did you forget you support a millionaire?
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 04:25 PM by TLM

110 million at last count..... and has the gall to tell folks in the rust belt that everything is fine they just need to roll of their sleeves and work hard?
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:28 PM
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19. You have the reading comprehension of a third greader.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:29 PM
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20. Sorry but the Clintons also are graduates of an Ivy league College
and Wellesley is the female equivalent. Georgetown, while not Ivy League is extremely prestigious. The fact is that as soon as they came out of College, both Clintons and both Obamas were part of the elite as they all were people who at these schools clearly found mentors.

You are standing things on their head in twisting this.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:24 AM
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5. U.S. companies HAVE created jobs
....overseas, thanks to NAFTA, Bill Clinton, and a repuke Congress.
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:15 PM
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6. Don't be elitist
:sarcasm:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:23 PM
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14. Yikes! I better go to a blue collar bar somewhere and down some whisky shots with the boys then!
:sarcasm:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:16 PM
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7. ELITIST!
:rofl:
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:19 PM
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8. Clearly Clinton hates rural americans....considers them stupid and racist...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-flashback-al_n_96433.html



Huff Post:

As the rumination continues over Barack Obama's comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic -- uttered while he was running for president in 1991 -- have now surfaced.

"The reason (George H. W. Bush's tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death," Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.

A couple months later, Joe Klein, writing for the Sunday Times, reported that Clinton made the following remarks:

"You know, he wants to divide us over race. I'm from the South. I understand this. This quota deal they're gonna pull in the next election is the same old scam they've been pulling on us for decade after decade after decade. When their economic policies fail, when the country's coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them. They know if they can keep us looking at each other across a racial divide, if I can look at Bobby Rush and think, Bobby wants my job, my promotion, then neither of us can look at George Bush and say, 'What happened to everybody's job? What happened to everybody's income? What ... have ... you ... done ... to ... our ... country?'"

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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:23 PM
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13. Thanks for the steaming pile of condescension
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:20 PM
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9. If Obama didn't lump "guns and religion" in with "trade and immigration," no one would be talking
about this anymore.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:24 PM
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15. LOL!!! Yes they would... because the people talking are already lying....


They'd have lied regardless of what he said or how he said it... all that would change is how much they had to leave out to support their spin.


Face the facts... all you Obama haters just jumped on him for something BILL CLINTON himself said many times.... that right wingers use wedge issues to distract voters from economic issues.

Wedge issues like god, guns, gay, and immigration.

So do you also consider Bill and elitist who is out of touch and considers all rural folks dumb and racist?
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:38 PM
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21. Once again, immigration + trade is not the same as guns + religion.
Maybe the Repub spinmasters would have made this an issue of trade an immigration in November. But there is no way that we would have the kind of controversy we have now if Obama just said what Bill Clinton said. Which is exactly why there wasn't controversy then. It's not a big media conspiracy against Obama (LOL), it's what he said. Stop blaming your own candidate's shortcomings on others.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:10 PM
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23. If he's said "angry" or "upset" instead of "bitter," it would have helped, too.
The race and guns stuff is the worst, though.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:21 PM
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11. And they are both just reciting common sociological findings on the subject.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:17 PM
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24. However, religious belief and gun owning are prominent features of rural life
whether there are good economic times or bad. It is a matter of degree only, if that, in rural America.

I lived there for many years and now visit frequently, and I don't see much change.

It is also stupid to suggest to people that the only reason they go to church is because their job has left. STUPID! TIN EAR! Or to suggest that the gun that they've had since they were teenagers appeared only when their job went to China. STUPID! TIN EAR!

I liked Edwards, and cast a futile vote for him in my primary. I'll vote for the dem nominee whoever that is.

However, Obama's words in San Francisco are simply not helpful, and will be used mercilessly by the pubbies. He needs to be more careful how he phrases things everywhere or he will have difficulty in some blue or blue-purple states in November.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:22 PM
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12. Has the major media been informed?
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:27 PM
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18. Thanks for the quick links. I will also send them this.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:26 PM
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17. Holy Shit.. Good find.. Bill must be an elitist too..
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 04:26 PM by Bensthename
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:05 PM
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22. He's correct of course just like the clintons always are....
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:25 PM
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25. u forgot the sacasm graphic
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