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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:59 AM
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Yes Virginia, the Media will tear you apart if you run for President (graphic)
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 03:02 AM by grantcart
Ground breaking work by social scientists have shown that if a woman dares to run for President they will tear you apart. It has been suggested that living in these misogynist United States of America it is impossible for a woman to get her message out to the public. Given the huge number of articles written in misogynistic hatred by the media on Senator Clinton, for example, we have limited it to a single source, TIME MAGAZINE, to show how this one magazine has consistently gone to great lengths to show her in a bad light.

These pictures and articles many of them taken and written by 'judas' sisters show that from the beginning the Media was intent on hunting her down and destroying any hope that she has of getting her message out and communicating with the public.

Devotional photo graphical layout by Time in 2006 http://www.time.com/time/2007/candidates_books/clinton/



August 2006

October 1997




August 7 2007
Hillary Clinton
Grade: B+
Presented a forceful front, boasting of her electability and capacity to stand up to Republicans. Once again turned the other cheek in the face of several attacks from John Edwards, but in urging Democrats to show unity and play nice, she seemed to conveniently forget her own recent attack on Obama as "naïve." Furthermore, she delighted in joining the others on stage in chiding Obama for his own remark about using force in Pakistan (for which she was notably booed). Attempted to present a wonky-but-cool persona; instead occasionally came off as a show-offy- teachers-pet-know-it-all. Tried to clean up last weekend's controversial defense of lobbyists by touting her pro-reform, anti-special interest credentials. Finessed her NAFTA response without explicitly trashing her husband. Referred to herself variously as "sister" and "girl" in a winsome mélange of post-feminism and teeny-bopper giddiness. Still, under the heat — literally and figuratively — she didn't wilt.

—By Mark Halperin

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584649,00.html

Thursday, Feb. 01, 2007

TIME: Could you describe how you decided to run? Was there one last thing that put the decision over the edge? Was there one thing that you finally had to work through to decide that you actually wanted to do this?

CLINTON: Well, I spent a lot of time with my family over Christmas, and Bill and I went away for a few days over New Year's, and that gave me the space—the psychic space—to really think it through because I hadn't focused on it with the level of seriousness it needed until after my election . I mean, I knew I was going to think about it, but then it came to actually have to think about it, and we were still working in the Senate. I was receiving a lot of advice from people—all kinds of people who wanted me to run, who had ideas for me, but I needed the quiet space to really talk to myself about it.

Really, right after the first of the year, I decided I did want to do it, that it was the right thing for me to do and that I thought I would win. So I made the decision and told my staff that it was a go and we needed to get ready.


http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1619574,00.html


"I was born into a middle-class family in the middle of the country in the middle of the last century," Hillary Clinton told several hundred people--a large crowd--in Council Bluffs, Iowa, on the first Sunday in May. It was a lovely line, and for once her voice, a flat Midwestern twang that sometimes twinges harsh, seemed just right. The crowd, which included a disproportionate number of mothers who had brought their daughters, was very much at ease with the Senator as she managed to convey her usual A-student policy virtuosity in an informal, accessible way. "Wouldn't it be great to have a President who can speak for an hour without notes?" former Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack, a presidential candidate turned Clinton supporter, told the next crowd, assembled in Red Oak despite biblical rains. It was a classic reaction to a Clinton performance. To be sure, other candidates can go noteless for an hour or more--some, like Joe Biden, famously so--but Clinton's flagrant competence is her dominant personality trait. And, sad to say, it may have very little to do with whether she wins the Democratic nomination.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100/article/0,28804,1595326_1615513_1615463,00.html



Whether what we know of Clinton, 59, is impression or reality, it gives her both an advantage and a burden unlike that of any other candidate. Her gender is the least of it. As a First Lady and then as a Senator from New York, she has always been a more moderate and pragmatic politician than either her admirers or her detractors believed. Her 2008 campaign strategy is a reverse image of the liberal stereotype, one that has its eye on the November election. But in retooling her image so she can be acceptable to moderate voters in swing states, she risks finding herself at odds with an angry Democratic primary electorate that has not forgiven her vote on Iraq.


http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1614886,00.html


Thursday, Apr. 26, 2007 By KAREN TUMULTY AND JAMES CARNEY

Hillary Clinton is also banking on the grueling schedule of debates, which is "where she will shine," says a strategist. "This will be her strongest point. She knows this stuff inside out." But her team says she is not yet ready to begin challenging Obama directly on his lack of specificity. That's because going on the attack could further boost her negatives and create an opening for Edwards, who has offered far more detailed plans than she has on issues like health care. "They are worried about both Obama and Edwards," says an outside adviser. "They think if Obama flames out, Edwards rises." And if that happens, Hillary's team will have to consider a course correction once again.


http://www.time.com/time/subscriber/covers/1101050207/ndem.html



Clinton offered some suggestions along those lines last week when she addressed abortion-rights supporters in Albany, N.Y., marking the anniversary of Roe v. Wade. While affirming her view that women should continue to have the right to choose, Clinton urged Democrats to support measures to reduce the number of abortions—encourage abstinence among the young and force insurers to cover contraceptives—and surprised some by saying the goal was not just making abortions rare but eliminating them altogether. She even sought to get on the right of Bush on the issue by noting that abortions have risen in eight states under his presidency.


CONCLUSION


In conclusion this graph by Gallup shows that Hillary Clinton entered the campaign at a severe disadvantage. Even though she had very limited name recognition and despite the fact that she had no funds at the start of the campaign Senator Clinton has battled through each and every month increasing her lead step by step. By going through the campaign process the Clinton campaign is successfully showing the public what she is all about and they are responding.




Or this by CNN shows that Senator Clinton was never given a chance


. . . . Mar. 9-11 . . .Jan 19-21. . . . Dec. 5-7. . . Nov. 17-19. . . Oct. 27-29. . . Aug 30-Sep 2
. . . . .2007 . . . . . . .2007. . . . . . 2006 . . . . . . . 2006. . . . . . 2006. . . . . . .2006

Clinton . .37%. . . . . . . 34%. . . . . . . 37%. . . . . . .33%. . . . . . . 28%. . . . . . . .38%

Obama . . .22% . . . . . . .18%. . . . . . . 15%. . . . . . 15%. . . . . . . 17%. . . . . . . . N/A


Don't take my word for it do the math for yourself see what Senator Clinton's poll ratings were a year ago and see what they are today and there is only one conclusion. Despite entering the campaign with the largest warchest, a huge lead in super delegate endorsements, the number one brand in American Politics, 20 years of personal interaction with elites in every state of the union, despite all of this

SENATOR CLINTON HAS MANAGED ONLY A WHOPPING 5% INCREASE IN THE POLLS OVER THE LAST TWELVE MONTHS.

Since Senator Clinton is the embodiment of all things great and good that you would want in a woman presidential candidate it is clear that there can only be one reason for this; the misogynistic attack on her as seen from the sample above is the only reason that she is not now and will not be the nominee of the party.



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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:07 AM
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1. Where's the misogy?
:shrug:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:11 AM
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3. typical sexist reply
;-):rofl:
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:08 AM
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2. "Misogynistic" ??? WTF?
And if you think Clinton is all things great and good as a woman presidential candidate then you're saying you love habitual liars and status quo corporate politicians for president.

LOL.."Misogynistic"

No, we don't like her because we don't like what she stands for, not because of her gender. You might want to lay off the KoolAid.


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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:13 AM
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4. hmmmm well you may want to consider that this thread was in response to
claims of misogyny that have become widely spread in DU
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:52 AM
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9. Shhh...I think Grant's an Obama guy.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:23 AM
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5. i.e. Senator Clinton can't outperform other candidates; she has to wait for them to underperform her
That looks like one great big flatline.

:thumbsup:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:48 AM
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8. actually classical Clinton can only win in 3 person races
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:42 AM
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6. You forgot to include the pic that has been on the front
page of DU for so long. Who do you want for President? They show a regal pic of Obama and a very unflattering pic of Clinton. Yeah, that poll will be honest!

zalinda
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:23 PM
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11. so one pic proves what?
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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:18 AM
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7. Misogynists vs pathologic liars...
Your conclusion (above last chart)
CONCLUSION
In conclusion this graph by Gallup shows that Hillary Clinton entered the campaign at a severe disadvantage.
Even though she had very limited name recognition and despite the fact that she had no funds at the start of the campaign...

It's a classical example of lies:
1st - In the beginning of campaign the " severe disadvantage" was in the Obama's side NOT on the Clinton side;
2nd - Write that "she had very limited name recognition" (compared with ANY other candidate) it's an outrageous PATHOLOGIC LIE!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:57 PM
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14. well jordi what about all of the terrible articles and the unflattering pictures?
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:00 PM
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16. Psst, jordi -- he's speaking tongue-in-cheek
grantcart is very much pro Obama.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 03:53 PM
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10. Grantcart, this post proves that Clinton supporters
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 04:27 PM by bigbrother05
can't read or comprehend
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:54 PM
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12. and that you can edit lol
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 04:55 PM
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13. But the other still works
Clon ton
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:52 PM
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15. works for me
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