Clinton to Obama: Debate without moderators

[Roon]

MARION, Ind. - Hillary Rodham Clinton took the debate dispute to a new level Saturday, challenging her opponent Barack Obama to face off with her in a debate without a moderator, Lincoln-Douglas style.

The Democratic presidential candidate said while campaigning in South Bend, Indiana, the 90-minute debate would allow two candidates to ask each other questions.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24327554/

[anonymous171]

1. Hillary: REZKO WRIGHT AYERS REZKO WRIGHT AYERS REZKO WRIGHT AYERS

[yourguide]

4. you forgot Farrakhan & Hamas...

both of which she dropped in during the ABC debacle...twice.

[BeatleBoot]

59. Oh, Don't Worry. The GOP won't talk about Farrakhan and Hamas this fall...

They turned John Kerry, the War Hero into a Traitor during the month of August 2004.

With Obama, there's no "there" there.



:sarcasm:


Our party is screwed.

[Alexander]

68. They won't talk about Vince Foster, Whitewater and Marc Rich, either...

:sarcasm:

[yourguide]

73. Or Norman Hsu, or Bill taking money from China...

AND both Mark Penn & Bill taking money from Columbia while HRC spoke out against them...

[BeatleBoot]

91. Yes they will. I agree wholeheartedly. They will.

And she'll tear their heads off in the process.

Clintons beat the Nazi scum twice.

The first two term Democratic President since FDR.


They've been through it before.


It's not a big deal for them.

[Cha]

11. Yeah, hilary's been filling in for mccain and bush..

no problem morphing into stepou and gibson.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

46. you forgot: Obama fathered two black children!

Oh Noes!

[BootinUp]

2. Love it. nt

[Liberal Veteran]

3. He just needs to tell her Highness to "talk to the hand".

And let her go on about her bidness.

[CatsDogsBabies]

5. I think there have been enough debates

Let them take their message straight to the voters. I do however think that this style debate would probably make Clinton look irrational and unhinged and probably some other pretty uncomplimentary things.

[burythehatchet]

6. OK what about a cage match. What a loser.

[adoraz]

7. wow. I could only imagine...

how well this would go.

One would play very, very dirty.

[EFerrari]

8. She's just embarrassing now. n/t

[CatsDogsBabies]

I agree ...

it makes her sound unhinged.

[rodeodance]

17. whats the matter??---crying again? Cry about the mods!! what a wimp!!

[TahitiNut]

29. Heaven forbid anyone "cry" except Hillary. Poor Nell.

After all, it takes her longer to get ready. Yup. And a girl's got a right to change her mind. Uh-huh.

Sheesh! :puke:

[rodeodance]

33. ha ha---Obama is running scared from Hillary. te he

[CatsDogsBabies]

47. This HRC request makes HRC look incredibly desperate. nt

[rodeodance]

52. makes Obama run faster---te he---He is looking like a wimpo!!

[TahitiNut]

66. You're sounding like a psycho bunny boiler spewing playground taunts.

Grow up.

[shadowknows69]

75. Bwah ha ha ha

Fatal Attraction 2: The playground

[rodeodance]

83. **Run Obama Run--**See Obama Run~~

[shadowknows69]

72. Shouldn't you be getting ready for the middle school dance or something?

[newmajority]

101. "Ignored" is all over this thread

Am I missing anything worth reading? :evilgrin:

[DemGa]

9. Obama knows this format would hurt him badly

He'd do well to avoid it at any cost.

[CatsDogsBabies]

14. I am sorry

but this style debate would likely make HRC look bad. She would likely lose her cool up there all alone.

[Nedsdag]

40. You know what????

I want to see the evil harpie come out.

That's real Hillary Clinton.

[bluetrain]

58. That's funny.

Obama has so little substance that he and Clinton on stage together equates Clinton alone on stage?

[rodeodance]

23. Obama needs to get a backbone!

[Forkboy]

64. What did Hillary need when she refused debates in '06?

[Bigleaf]

10. Why not have her debate one of the 73 major donors who have abandoned her for Obama.

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. The Black Knight has Spoken

[Cali_Democrat]

13. Good God

[rodeodance]

15. ha ha YOU ALL BEEN CRYING about the moderators--now you cry again!!

[Joanne98]

16. NO!

[rodeodance]

19. ah yeah---Obama the cry baby--still running scared!!--

[jenmito]

18. Why doesn't she spend more time talking about the issues rather than trying to get more air-time out

of another debate? It ain't gonna happen. Stop whining, Hillary!

[kentuck]

20. Maybe he will screw up and say something controversial???

And give Hillary one last chance? I say, let 'em sweat. :-)

[newmajority]

21. "I want free air time, and I want it NOW, goddamn it!!!"

Can't you see you're making Bill CRY??

[rodeodance]

36. Obama gots lots of free air time with the "GOD DAMM AMERICA" issue.

[Independent-Voter]

22. Veruca, you're sounding more desperate every day. Get your broke ass out of here!

[Name removed]

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[DemExpat]

25. Great move, Hillary.

lol!

DemEx

[SoCalDem]

26. Obama to Hillary: Buy your own TV time

:rofl:

[TexasObserver]

27. He should ignore her. She's nuts, and she's dangerous.

He should treat her like he would a stalker.

[TahitiNut]

30. Please don't say "nuts" like it's a Bad Thing.

Thanks! :hi:

This is a public Service posting on behalf of the International Adhocracy of Fruits and Nuts, DU Chapter.

[TexasObserver]

69. wacky

not nuts

bonkers, not nuts

twisted, not nuts

insane, not nuts

crazy, not nuts

a few bricks short of a load, not nuts

a few cards short of a deck, not nuts

a couple of bubbles off plumb, not nuts

Just words?!

[TahitiNut]

76. She's the Alex Forrest of 2008 ... a psycho bunny boiler. (Don't let her near the cutlery.)

Her contact with reality is tenuous at best.

[BeyondGeography]

28. So Hillary gets to be the moderator?

Huge improvement there...

[bigbrother05]

38. Who, would she be this time?

[Ichingcarpenter]

49. This one

[bigbrother05]

57. good one

:applause:

[flowomo]

31. that would be interesting!

there'd have to be some rules -- but let the candidates pick the questions. A good answer beats a good question every time -- so why would either side have an advantage?

[MadBadger]

32. That would ensure its a debate full of negativity.

[fortyfeetunder]

34. Actually I vote for "Celebrity DeathMatch"

:evilgrin:

[Diane R]

35. Hillary just wants to filibuster. Watch her in the other 21 debates...she never comes up for air.

[4themind]

62. WHy can't they have a timer that cuts off her mic if she goes over

[anonymous171]

37. How about a 3v3 basketball game?

Axlerod, Obama, and Kerry can play against Penn, Hillary and Bill.

[newmajority]

44. Make that a fundraiser.

I know I'd pay to see it. :evilgrin:

[Forkboy]

39. What next? Challenge him to a duel at ten paces?

[RazBerryBeret]

41. the losers always want to debate...

the winners don't want to waste the time they could be campaigning...

[americanstranger]

42. Note to Clinton supporters regarding debates:

The frontrunner gets to call the shots. Not the also-ran. Sorry.

That is all.

- as

[PassingFair]

43. No more debates...we've HEARD ENOUGH!

She is flogging a dead horse.

The "horse" being the electorate here.

[rodeodance]

85. you can't hear with sand in your ears!

[Aloha Spirit]

45. Should still be a referee, and somebody keeping score like a boxing match.

[MattBaggins]

48. Yeah let's put him in her element

I think he should debate her again but not in a no holds barred match up.

It comes down to reality; Obama has to reach out to her core voters when all is said and done, where as Hillary can and already has written off his core voters. She can attack and smear with impunity since pissing off young voters is irrelevant to her. Obama would be fighting with both hands tied behind his back.

No way should Hillary be allowed to pull this bullshit. She will come at him kicking, scratching and screaming since she has decided his voters are not necessary on the path she has drawn to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

[DemExpat]

50. Still - Great tactic to make your opponent look very weak

by refusing the offers.

:kick:

DemEx

[texas_indy]

54. Obama doing the exact thing Hillary did in 2006. It worked for her then and it will work for Obama

now.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/opinion/21mon3.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Hillary Clinton’s Low Profile


What is good for the goose is good for the gander, eh?

[DemExpat]

55. Sure, its all good.

Not certain it works the same in all circumstances, though....

DemeX

[BootinUp]

51. This Contest is Not Over!!

http://jimsdigital.homeip.net:8080/pics/quick.gif

[GoesTo11]

53. You think she'd have any tricks ready?

Pull out a paper and ask him to sign it?
Pull out a photo of Rev. Wright and Obama and ask him to denounce again?
whatever

She would be delighted to get him to roll around in the muck with her, since she's already filthy with muck.

She doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt that this would be a serious debate. She has already given it up, permanently.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

56. How many more last straws does she have to grasp before she goes away?

Preferably, far away.

[rug]

60. Exactly right. No moderators, just a timekeeper.

And if he actually did do it, which he won't for any number of lame reasons, his bowling would look spectacular in comparison.

[backscatter712]

61. It's just a flesh wound! Come back you yellow bastards! I'll bite your legs off!!!

[krawhitham]

63. She wants to party like its 1858

Does Obama only get 3/5th the time to respond as Hillary?

[Avalux]

65. OMG she is so desperate. What does she think that will do?

Cause the superdelegates to suddenly rush to her corner? Obama is moving on to the GE and there's no need to debate her again other than to give her the opportunity to unleash her wrath.

[Forkboy]

67. I love the hypocrites for Hillary in this thread. Where was their bullshit in '06?

Did she "need to get a backbone" when she refused to debate?

Some Hillary supporters never fail to make idiots of themselves.

[rug]

74. Tasini/Clinton was not Clinton/Obama.

Stick a fork in it.

[GarbagemanLB]

81. If by 'it' you mean Hillary's campaign, I agree. I wonder how many of her fundraisers have left her

since news broke about that big fundraiser switching to Obama...

[rug]

82. By "it", I mean the comparison.

Stick it in yours too since it has nothing to do with this thread.

[Forkboy]

86. LOL...Nice double standard there.

Her excuses are worthy. Obama is a coward.

[rug]

87. Didn't say it was worthy. Tasini, by any measure, was not a credible challenger.

Obama, on the other hand, is here a coward.

[Forkboy]

89. Even a Hillary supporter here shows more smarts than you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5697172&mesg_id=5697628

Now, go bark at him.

[rug]

94. Agreeing with you is not any measure of smart.

[Forkboy]

97. So you disagree with the Hillary supporter?

I look forward to you confronting them with your concerns.

[rug]

99. Not at all. Had you read the trhead he was saying it was smart politics in 2006.

Unless you agree Clinton is as feeble a challenge to Obama as Tasini was to Clinton, it's not smart politics in 2008. What Obama will leave behind is a distinct failure in the final debate and a refusal to debate even when his complaint about biased moderators is eliminated. That is not smart.

[Vinca]

70. Obama doesn't need no stinkin' debates.

Hillary wants free air time. Tell her to pay for it.

[rodeodance]

95. cause he stinks doing debates!

[Honu one]

71. Oh, please

She can't control herself to observe the rules with Moderators present.

No more free air time for Hillary.

[knight_of_the_star]

77. That is how it should be done!

And should have been done, a REAL debate, not the farces we get right now.

[shadowknows69]

78. This might not be a hugely bad idea

Without someone to lead her into the attacks, Hillary will just look like a lunatic. If she really wants Obama to spill her skeleton filled closets all over national TV, maybe he should.

[rug]

80. Of course he should, but he won't, for entirely different reasons.

[flvegan]

79. I still think they should both go on Top Gear and do a lap.

Best lap wins the nom.

At least THAT would be fun to watch.

[msallied]

98. LMAO! That is the best idea yet.

Or it can be whoever comes closest to beating The Stig's time. LOL

[Life Long Dem]

84. I think Obama will just coast from here onto the nomination.

But I'm sure he appreciates the desperate attention from Clinton and will thank her in this late stage with a few states left.

There will be more debates with McSame, but I don't even see Hillary as a candidate anymore since she has no chance of winning this. So why bother with a debate unless it's just a smear she wants to do. I suppose if you have nothing to lose what would it matter what she said in a debate. Why she could say she would obliterate Iran and it wouldn't matter if your not going to win.

[rodeodance]

92. Dreamland is so much fun for you.

[2rth2pwr]

88. If Obama is too scared to debate Hillary, how will he fare with Kim Jong-il,

or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

What a wimp.

[Forkboy]

90. If Hillary is too afraid to debate a pushover like Tasini how would she fare against Kim Jong Il?

What a wimp!

You guys should start a club. "Hypocrites For Hillary!" It could pick up where "Martyrs For Hillary!" left off.

[JoFerret]

93. I would like to see that

And then another debate moderated by people like Moyers.

[moondust]

96. It is not a debate that she wants.

What she wants is a shooting gallery with a live target that is tied to a podium.

[SunsetDreams]

100. She's desperate! The Math is not there Hillary, there is no point!

[fed_up_mother]

102. When he interrupts her it's going to be Gore all over Bush all over again

BAD IDEA. And if he doesn't interrupt, she's going to go over her time limit, and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk...