Race card? How about rape card.

[hokies4ever]

I'd like to take to task all of the Bill O'Reillys out there lamenting that blacks are unfairly using the race card. Here's a good analogy to chew on:

Let's say that a woman claims to have been raped in New York in 2007. After a lot of TV coverage, it turns out that she was lying the entire time and eventually even admits it when the evidence contrary to her story reveals this. Now a year goes by and a woman claims to have been raped in New York in 2008. Completely different woman, completely different circumstances; the two women have never met in life and don't know each other. Now imagine that after this 2nd woman's story is revealed, somebody accuses her of using the rape card. After all, it has been proven before that other women in the past have falsely claimed rape, so not only should we not believe her story, but we should dismiss her accusations by claiming that she is just playing the rape card. Later on, we find out that she actually attended a meeting of her local National Organization of Women chapter, so something must be afoot. Maybe she is just playing the rape card. The final death blow to her playing the rape card now comes out when some of her friends admit that she has described herself as a feminist. Rape card user! Her best friend just admitted that she describes herself as a feminist. She ought to be ashamed of herself for playing the rape card to her advantage.

Hopefully this analogy strikes an emotional chord that will allow people to understand what some minorities feel when they hear people accused of playing the race card. Bill Clinton doesn't get it. Accusing Obama of playing the race card is one of the many reasons why the Clintons had more of the African-American vote at the end of last year, but now just 5 months later Hillary is lucky to break single digits with the black vote.

(Apologies to New York for using your state in my analogy, but I had to choose somewhere, so as a Red Sox fan I'm picking on the Yankees home state)

[nomorenomore08]

1. Excellent point. False charges of racism, just like false rape charges, no doubt do occur, but that

shouldn't diminish the seriousness of the real harm that people suffer. Anyone who puts the burden of the "race" issue on Obama is either a closet racist, or so ignorant they shouldn't be allowed within a hundred feet of a voting booth.

[redstate_democrat]

2. I hate the term "race card".

I believe it is a racist word bigots use to dismiss charges of racism. It trivializes the seriousness of the charge.

Like the term "cry rape". When women make charges of rape, some men will say "oh, she is just crying rape. She was wearing a miniskirt so therefore her charge of rape is ridiculous." Even if the woman was never raped, the characterization is still harmful because it trivializes the charge.

[hokies4ever]

10. Great point redstate_democrat

If people thought about the term "cry rape" everytime they said "race card", perhaps they would think twice about using it.

[BlooInBloo]

3. White people's favorite racial incident.

[quantass]

4. Good post!

[hokies4ever]

6. Thanks

I wanted to help people understand why Hillary is pulling single digit percentage points of the African-American vote. There's no reason why she shouldn't be pulling at least 20-25% of their vote, minimum. Bill Clinton was overall well thought of in the black community, but he is wearing out his welcome with some of his comments. For example, I'm in my late 20s. I actually didn't know that Jesse Jackson won the SC primary twice in the 80s, until Bill Clinton was happy to educate me about it. It's not quite like stealing someone's virginity, but he took something away from my heart when he made those comments. A moment of African American history of Jesse Jackson winning the SC primary twice will forever have an asterisk by it with Bill Clinton's comments.

If Hillary wants to fix this, she needs to be proactive about it. She needs to talk to Bill and tell her she's calling in one of her favors. He definitely owes her for some of his cheating I figure. She needs to yell at him, tell him to march down to the black community and have a 'Come to Jesus' moment with them and he's sleeping on the couch until he makes that effort. Instead, she apologized to some black newspaper organization I think, but it fell on deaf ears. The apology needed to come from Bill's mouth, not hers. It's obvious he doesn't think he's offended anyone with some of his statements, so she was apologizing for his statement just to go on record.

However, I don't think she will want to fix it now. Her main superdelegate argument right now seems to be a euphemistic way of saying that the white, working class vote is more important than the black vote. Like blacks can't tell that's what she's suggesting with her 'big state' theory describing her win in PA. Makes me sick.

[McCamy Taylor]

5. Google "Obama" and "Race Memo" and "Huffington Post"

to see why some think that the Obama camp was deliberating trying to push lies and distortions about the Clintons in order to bring race into the race, even though sane Democrats would have known that it would do terrible harm to the party by dividing it before the general. Note that three of the charges that are made in that memo had been proved media lies by Media Matters and other widely read media watch dog sites, something a well financed presidential campaign like Obama's should have known.

There are two sides to every card in a 3D universe. Someone in the Obama camp was very, very foolish. It was not Obama himself, I am sure of that. However, as I show in a recent journal, there are signs that the memo may have been disseminated, either by the Obama camp or by someone who leaked it to the press for nefarious reasons, i.e the RNC to cause trouble for Dems.

This issue must be discussed and resolved now in the primary before the nominee is selected. If Obama is nominated with Democrats proclaiming "Clinton played the race card" and no one ever discussing the Race Memo, I can guarantee you that the McCain camp will suddenly "break" the story in the general and say that Democratic voters did not know about it when they selected Obama. It will not affect Democratic voters, but it will be used to encourage Independents and Republicans to pour to the polls to vote against Obama the cheater.

[guyanakoolaid]

7. I find it more than disingenuous of you, McCamy, to be saying you think this could have been a Repug

plant on one hand, in your own thread, while continuing to attack him out of the other side of your mouth. You can come up with nothing better than a memo you yourself said could have come from Repugs themselves, say that it smells like bullshit, yet continue to smear it.

:shrug:

[hokies4ever]

8. About that 'Race Memo'

Obama's camp had every right to publish it, and it turned out that they were obviously correct about Bill's intentions. All they did was document some strange 'coincidences' from the Clinton camp, particularly revolving around Bill. For someone who claims to understand the black community, he should have thought twice before calling Obama's campaign a 'fairytale'. Also, 'shuck and jive'? Hmmm. . . .are you really this dumb? Also, don't be fooled by Bill's careful language. After all, he is the person who asked us to ponder on what the definition of the word 'is' is.

To use an analogy, that 'race memo' was like an application for a search warrant for a home suspected of having illegal drugs. The smell of drugs was too strong walking by the house to ignore it. Later when the search warrant was carried out, a ton of drugs were found. So your argument is to now dispute some of the language in the search warrant. Nice try, but I'm glad that the Obama camp called him and Hillary's campaign out on their race motivations. Jesse Jackson might have won SC twice and not have won the nomination, but Obama will win both SC and the nomination.

[hokies4ever]

9. Another analogy

Once again, you're attacking the search warrant and not the evidence uncovered:

"Judge, I know that they found 10 kilos of marijuana in my home, but I would like to dispute the search warrant. They had permission to search my CURRENT place of residence. However, I would like to testify under oath that I was not home at the time of the search. Furthermore, I had already decided in my mind that I was moving out that very day, never to set foot in that home again. So you see, it was actually my former place of residence, not my current place of residence. Oh, and while I smoked it, I never inhaled." :rofl: