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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:16 AM
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IF Sen. Obama is the Democratic nominee, I wonder if his supporters will be as
aggressive and determined in going after McCain as they have been in attacking Sen. Clinton.

Or will they, as the Senator himself has done, adhere to a cease-fire with the GOP and reach out to voters by only extolling Obama's qualities and never criticizing McCain?

From their history so far, I seriously doubt if they know how to attack a republican.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:18 AM
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1. Clinton does know how to destroy a typical Republican campaign...
...just look at her numbers.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:19 AM
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2. Your second sentence makes no sense
Both sides have ignored McCain. This is a circular firing squad and neither side is innocent.
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:21 AM
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6. However, both sides have been attacking Obama!
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:58 AM
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32. I totally agree
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:20 AM
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3. True that.
Edited on Mon May-05-08 10:21 AM by Harvey Korman
If the multitude of Obama supporters on DU who actually praised and defended Reagan (!) are a preview of what's to come, I don't think you're too far off the mark.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:21 AM
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4. I have tried
Yet whenever I point out McCain's amnesty plan for illegal immigrants, his selling out or POW/MIA's in the 1995 "deal" with Vietnam, it all seems to fall on deaf ears.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:21 AM
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5. Get over it; we could be having an honest discussion about McCain
if one of the Dems, when she should have bowed out of this race, did. Had the situations been reversed, we would be having that debate.
I look forward to you building your candidate up instead of consistently bashing Obama and his supporters, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

And FTR, which Dem has been acting like a rethug? Seems the Obama supporters are getting some good practice in. :eyes:
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:31 AM
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19. "Seems the Obama supporters are getting some good practice in."
sing it 'sister. i've feel like i've had to fight as hard as i did against bush in '00 and '04, and we're not even on GE yet. it seems so far away somedays...
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:22 AM
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7. We go after all Republicans hard
Clinton and McCain
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:22 AM
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8. Some of us think HRC is a republican, and have always said so.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:22 AM
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:23 AM
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10. Are you kidding? I think I can speak for most of us here in saying
that we can't wait to tear into M'Can't. And Obama unlike Hill, hasn't praised him as fulsomely as she has. Now if only Hill supporters would stop rewriting the facts, get off of Wright, and join us.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:24 AM
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11. You will see a whole new level of fight unleashed against McCain.
Of that I have NO DOUBT.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:24 AM
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12. Huh?
Obama criticizes McCain every day, FYI.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:26 AM
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13. What a joke.
Edited on Mon May-05-08 10:26 AM by mmonk
We're mainly reacting to a campaign strategy by the Clinton campaign that has surprised us on her tactics which we haven't seen in democratic party primary politics since the sixties.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:27 AM
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14. Ha ha ha ha...
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:27 AM
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15. Impressive use of projection there. Complete delusion at it's best.
Was it Obama who said McCain had the experience to be president? No?

Was it Clinton who has been turning campaign speeches more and more toward the repub nominee? No again?

Is it sycophantic Hillary supporters who keep posting complete bullshit because their glorious queen hasn't given them anything real to post about? Hmmmm......

Or are you just a low life paid grunt working for the doomed campaign of a serial liar? BINGO!!!
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:28 AM
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16. Hell, I'm ready to go after Grandpa McLoon right now
But there's a herd of crazy Hillsheep blocking the road.....



And yes, I know how to attack Republicans. Which is why I can't stand it when they pretend to be Democrats, which is what Hillary does.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:29 AM
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17. Clintons NEVER attacked or even opposed Bush, Rove the last 8yrs and you want to pretend
that they know how to fight? They only know how to smear and attack OTHER Democrats.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:29 AM
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18. Do you expect Obama to lie, cheat and distort like hillary has?
Edited on Mon May-05-08 10:30 AM by bowens43
If so, I'm afraid you will be disappointed. Obama doesn't need to campaign from the toilet. BUt we will be relentless when it comes to exposing McCain for what he is.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:32 AM
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20. classic projection.
really, an almost clinical case here.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:32 AM
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21. Hillary shoots herself in the foot and blames Obama.
Hillarious. :eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:32 AM
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:33 AM
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23. YOU LEAVE OUT ONE KEY POINT....McCain is on the Republican ticket
Edited on Mon May-05-08 10:34 AM by Triana
Obama/Clinton are on the Democratic one. (or in Hillary's case, presumably)

When ONE Democratic candidate uses REPUBLICAN tactics to destroy another Democratic candidate, THAT divides the party and can destroy its chances of winning AT ALL in the end. THAT type of destruction is something you do to the OPPOSITE team - NOT the same one you're ON.

That is to say -- someone needs to notify HILLARY that she IS running on the Democratic ticket not the REPUBLICAN one - because she doesn't seem aware of that - or doesn't give a shit.

So to answer the rather silly question you posed - YES we will go after McCain. JUST like we go after HILLARY.


Here it comes:

"Ooohh but...but...but...HILLARY is on the same team! So you shouldn't go after her like thaaat! You're disloyal!"


WRONG! SHE'S NOT ON THE SAME TEAM. IF SHE IS she certainly isn't ACTING like it. SHE is the one who is DISLOYAL.

She is using the team's GOOD NAME to destroy it from within. HILLARY CLINTON is a REPUBLICAN. She ACTS like one and conducts her campaign like one - EVEN USING THE SAME PLAYERS the Republicans use!

THEREFORE I - as a Democrat, will go after HER JUST LIKE I'd go after ANY OTHER REPUBLICAN. And if Obama is the nominee, McSame will not be spared one iota of the same.

BECAUSE I DO NOT LIKE REPUBLICANS - EVEN when they are dressed in a pretentious little Democratic pantsuit.





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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:33 AM
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24. plonk
no time for delusionals
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:37 AM
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25. I was going to post some snark, but...all I can do is laugh. (nt)
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:39 AM
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26. This flamebait is so ridiculous you have to laugh.
:rofl:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:45 AM
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27. Oh we know how to attack a republican. That's why we go after
Hillary. For example, the gas tax holiday that McCain also supports and that Hillary says she'll pay for with money she already says she'll use for renewable energy research. That's using the SAME money TWICE. That's republican accounting. And obliterating Iran? That's a republican thing, not a democratic thing. And going after Obama on GUNS??? That's a republican issue, not a democratic one. And how about her IWR vote? She sided with the republicans without even reading the NIE. That's a republican vote, not a democratic vote. And voting for the Lieberman Iran resolution? That's a waaayyy wacko republican vote, not a democratic one.

So, we absolutely know how to attack a republican. Hillary is giving us LOTS of practice.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:48 AM
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28. How can we attack him?
He has a lifetime of experience to bring to White House, while Obama only has a speech he gave in 2002.

:eyes:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:52 AM
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29. since the polls show more HRC supporters will support McCain than Obama supporters
shouldn't you also be asking whether, if HRC gets the nomination, they will be as aggressive in attacking McCain as they have been attacking Obama?

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:53 AM
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30. Hmm, who said Hillary and McCain were more qualified, dissing Obama?
This projection crap is really getting rather old.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:54 AM
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31. Believe me, the Obama campaign is way ready to go after McCain...
if only they could turn their backs on the Clinton Campaign for more than a day or two without some new attack being mounted that brings them back to the nomination battle. As soon as this whole food fight is over we'll see how the rest develops.

If you're hoping for an immediate attempt to tear out McCain's jugular I think you'll be dissapointed; if you'll be happy with a winning campaign even if it doesn't assuage your blood lust I think you can relax.

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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:00 AM
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33. The delusion exhibited is that of the Obamatons. I have never said anything to indicate
that I support Clinton in this battle between center-right corporatists. But, of course, the reaction to any criticism of or even a question about the annointed one is always and only that the critic must be a Clintonite and therefore, anything they say is to be ignored and ridiculed.

As much as Clinton is tearing the party apart, Obama is contributing equally to the self-destruction.

They both have stated admiration and praise for the repukes.

They both have attacked a fellow-Dem with sexism/racism (take your pick).

They both are running so far to the right that real liberals will have a hard time finding anything to support and a harder time holding our nose to vote for either come November.

Both have talked and voted to support and continue the war on Iraq.

Both have contributed to driving the true representative of progressive ideas out of the race.

A pox on both their houses.

So, Obaba-nation. Try addressing the question. Show me how much you want to defeat McCain, not just how much you want to beat Clinton. I have not seen any of that yet.
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