Why Hillary should be the VP nominee?

[kentuck]

There is a very good chance that Barack Obama will beat John McCain in the general election. But, he does need a strong Democrat, that appeals to the white working class, as Hillary has done. No doubt, she would help the ticket. But, will Obama choose her? Are there too many ill-feelings from this campaign?

Another major reason why Hillary should be on the ticket is that she knows the White House. Bill knows how the White House works. Obama does not. He would need to learn the ropes. There would be a learning curve, as there is with every new President, unless they have been there before?

The Clintons could redeem themselves with the black voters of this country by agreeing to "advise" Obama in his new position, about the pitfalls and traps awaiting him. They could come together and work to make the country a better place. But, have no doubt, Barack Obama would be the President. He will make the decisions. But, it would permit the Clintons to regain stature within the Party. And it would assist Obama into settling into the job quicker and more effectively. Just my opinion, which I know a lot of folks will disagree with. :-)

[Kittycat]

1. Obama can find someone better, that doesn't have her high negatives.

Her campaign has been counter to Obama's Change message from day 1.

[Botany]

2. no

28 years of a bush or a Clinton on the ticket is enough.

Besides her negatives are too high.

[YOY]

3. Sorry Kentuck: No.

No more DLC.

[Phillycat]

8. Obama's chief economic advisor is also the economic head of the DLC.

They're all in bed together, sweet pea.

[YOY]

17. Not really

Not unless they're actually "leading". Sweetpea.

[Texas Hill Country]

4. it would do a ton to help heal the party which is divided like it never has been before

[ieoeja]

49. Hyperbole alert!

You know the party has been divided worse. The Dixiecrat split of 1860, 1948 and 1968 was certainly worse. In 1972 the party was at least as divided as it is today.

I believe Bill Clinton had the right idea when picking a running mate. Pick someone who complements you.

I am afraid picking Hillary would just make it look like Obama was fronting her, like Bush/Cheney. That would make a Democratic candidate look too weak in the eyes of the public. That wasn't a problem for Bush because, like so many things, "it's okay if you're a Republican".

[JVS]

5. she's doing scorched earth, let her burn in the field.

[Pisces]

6. No way.

[H2O Man]

7. Unlikely.

She isn't on the top tier of candidates for the position.

[Medusa]

9. NOOOOOOOOOOO.

The Clintons have played dirty and it's up to them to rebuild their very tarnished reputations on their own, if they can. Obama should leave them hanging and dangling and let them suffer the consequences of their ill-behavior.

Big deal: She knows the White House. So does Barney the Dog, the Twins, and Laura. At this point, I'd rather see any of those combinations on the ticket with Obama than Hillary.

[seabeyond]

10. no way... she is outta there. no more clintons. n/t

[jaxx]

11. I'm white working class....and a woman.

I voted for Barack Obama.

Nobody needs to hold Obama's hand when he walks into the oval office. Jeez

[newmajority]

12. "..But, it would permit the Clintons to regain stature within the Party"

And right there is the best argument to NOT have her on the ticket. They do not deserve to "regain their stature". They have done everything possible to DESTROY this party, and continue to do so. It's time to kick the DLC into the ditch.

[kentuck]

15. I respect your opinion.

But it is about winning the general election. Who would you suggest? Also, I tend to agree with you about the DLC. I think they have done tremendous damage to our Party.

[newmajority]

31. The Clintons have always been the "franchise players" of the DLC.

Defeating the Clintons will be cutting the head off the proverbial snake.

As for VP, ANY senator is out. Two senators on a ticket is suicidal. Since Al Gore has already been elected President, he's not going to be VP. That makes our best bet a governor. Bill Richardson's got the best resume. Janet Napolitano has been mentioned, but somebody pointed out last night that if she joined the ticket, AZ would get stuck with a horrid 'Puke governor.

General Clark is getting mentioned a lot around here. I'd be OK with that, as long as I knew he put the country and the party above the Clintons.

[Lerkfish]

13. There are much better choices out there: for one thing a dual senator ticket is not the way to go.

[kentuck]

21. But, there are likely to be two Democrats to replace the Senators..

If they come from Democratic states like IL and NY...

[Lerkfish]

34. not sure you get my point, but I mean the ticket needs to be more diverse

for example, a representative and a senator or a senator and a governor.
It would also help if a southern VP were chosen. Richardson would fit the bill, and he has some diplomatic experience.

[kentuck]

40. Good point.

Maybe he will take a retired General?

[Lerkfish]

42. that could work, as well.

I think picking up Clinton in any capacity at this point will be the political equivalent of a dog returning to his own vomit. sure, it happens, but its not pleasant, and provides no advantage to the dog.

[MeDeMax]

14. he is a smart guy, he'll ask her to be the VP - n/t

[Tatiana]

16. She should not. We should take Clark. n/t

[Spazito]

18. Wouldn't having Hillary on the ticket do exactly what the repubs

want, energize their base to get out and vote because of their irrational hatred of the Clintons? Couple that with her high negatives even among Democrats and it seems to me she would be a bad choice.

Just my thoughts.

Bill didn't "know" how the White House worked yet he managed to serve two terms, I suspect Barack is as able as Bill was in "learning the ropes".

[godai]

19. No, it would give the Repubs what they want, a Clinton to run against.

The way this campaign has proceeded, it makes this idea virtually impossible.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

20. Hell no.

And being First Lady does not mean Hillary "knows how the White House works." She didn't even have a security clearance.

[reflection]

22. No. She helps McCain if she's on the ticket.

She motivates the very voters McCain is having trouble connecting with, the lockstep uber-right Republicans who are real lukewarm on McCain. They'll run through a wall to vote against Hillary.

[frogcycle]

23. there you go again

flushing out more people for my ignore list

thanks!

:)

The diehard "she done him wrong so I hates her dirty guts" crowd would rather see a mcbush presidency than soil their pure souls by association with her.

Question to Obama diehards: If he DOES pick her, will you still vote for him? Stay home? Vote mcbush?

[kentuck]

25. No problem, frogcycle..

Glad I could help. :-)

[Erin Elizabeth]

37. I'll worry about that IF it happens.

And honestly I think I have a better chance of hitting the lottery tonight!

[nomaco-10]

24. We are turning the page and .....

she represents the devisive politics of the past. Why in the world would he want to work side by side with somebody for the next eight years that has done nothing but deride him and marginalize his abilities as commander in chief?

[EnviroBat]

26. Hell F*ING NO.

[CindyKay]

27. It won't happen

Obama has said that We need Change & that Hillary is Part of the Same old Washington Politics this will Contradict His Strategy. He needs to find someone that has a Military background & hasn't been in Washington Forever. This narrows His Choices but I believe He can find Someone like maybe Jim Webb. He's relatively New & He has a Military Background , He's also one of the Few Politicians whose Son has been to Iraq !I think America fell in Love with Him ( I Know I Did ) After He was RUDE to Bush. I wanna look at him a little more but I think He is a Strong Match for Obama. A man of Integrity & He speaks from His Heart like Obama ! :patriot: :pals:

[kentuck]

29. And a Democratic Governor would appoint a Dem to replace him?

Right?

[CindyKay]

46. Makes sense to Me.

Jim Webb is a Very Good Choice.IMHO. :pals:

[terrell9584]

28. This is still America

And that's a demographical nightmare.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5860905

Here are the best choices for a running mate. You need a white Southerner and one who will be able to project gravitas. Clinton actually wouldn't be a bad pick (as in Bill). He actually is eligible for it, he has a balance of two years of presidential eligibility.

[Erin Elizabeth]

30. This right here is an *extremely* weak reason:

Another major reason why Hillary should be on the ticket is that she knows the White House. Bill knows how the White House works. Obama does not. He would need to learn the ropes. There would be a learning curve, as there is with every new President, unless they have been there before?

Weak, weak, weak. Hasn't EVERY president had to do this? Is Senator Obama functionally disabled or something? So Hillary would be like, his boss for the first few months, showing him the ropes? Or Bill would be? Or both of them?

Can you spell a-w-k-w-a-r-d?

And unnecessary?

No. I don't think he trusts her any further than he could throw her.

[kentuck]

33. You do recall...

that Bill was in office only a few weeks before the WTC was bombed the first time? That is the type of advice and experience I am referencing - not who will be on the list for the White House dinners...

[Erin Elizabeth]

36. And? Did he fall apart? Have a nervous breakdown?

Didn't do what he needed to do?

No, none of that happened. So why do you think Obama would fall apart or not do what he needed to do if something like that, God forbid, happened?

[kentuck]

38. But could he have prevented it with more knowledge and information?

Yes, I'm sure Obama will handle the crisis very well when they come, as surely they will. He has shown himself to be cool, calm, collected, intelligent, and rational.

[Erin Elizabeth]

39. That's a question no one can ever answer.

[chapel hill dem]

32. She and Bill will beome loose cannons and she will act as POTUS. And, Obama cannot fire her. n/t

[kentuck]

35. An Addendum:

I suppose the Clintons could agree to help Obama and rebuild their reputation with the black community without the reward of a position in the White House? But would that be too much to expect?

[frogcycle]

41. if they are even marginally patriotic

they will fall all over themselves trying to help him.

we'll see what the competiton was really all about once it is officially over. If they sulk, then all the vitriol hurled at them was probably justified. If they suck it up and try to help him win and then help him govern in whatever way they can without a "deal" then maybe the campaigh actually WAS about thinking the country needed her.

Time will tell. I have no idea which way it will go.

[Lerkfish]

44. Its possible they could join behind the nominee. I don't see them doing that willingly

Politically, they have painted themselves into a no-win corner. They have openly declared McCain would make a better president than Obama. For them to start supporting his candidacy now will appear hypocrital at best.

but, that's the bed they made. This should be a good lesson on why you should always keep your political options open.

[tinrobot]

43. She can do a lot more as a senator.

n/t

[BlooInBloo]

45. Only Clinton supporters want this idiocy.

[redqueen]

47. Why choose a VP with negatives at 60%? (And rising, most likely.)

It's a STUPID idea.

[billyoc]

48. No. nt