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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:26 AM
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Hillary's Chief Strategist: NC Loss is Progress
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:29 AM
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On the Hillary conference call, Hillary chief strategist Geoff Garin made the case for her electability in some of the most explicitly race-based terms I've heard yet.

Garin argued that the North Carolina contest, which Obama won by 14 points, represented "progress" for Hillary because she did better among white voters there than she did in Virginia.

"When we began in North Carolina," Garin said, "our internal polling and much of the public polling we were running exactly even with white voters."

Garin said that the Virginia electorate was the "closest white electorate in the country" to North Carolina, and added that Hillary "started even" among whites in North Carolina, and "ended up earning a significant win of 24 points."

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:mad:
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:32 AM
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5. Yah but....an 8 point swing to Hillary's 42% in NC would have been a victory for her...
...she got 42 delegates (CNN) in NC.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:58 AM
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15. I wonder where this guy went
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:00 AM
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16. actually if you listen to the tape it literally went like this
When uh uh uh we began ummmmm oh ou er in North Carolina our uh uh uh


It was really unbelievable to hear
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:30 AM
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2. Also, gravity makes things float away, and water is good for starting fires.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:30 AM
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3. NC was a stake thru the heart of their campaign...
It was their last hope to maintain they had the most popular votes. They failed.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:31 AM
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4. How can anyone support this woman?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:34 AM
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7. My theory? Shared mass delusion.
Not really sure why, but it happens.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:34 AM
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6. I wonder what Axelrod will have to say about this... n/t
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:37 AM
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9. Perhaps sometimes, the best thing to do is remain silent
Edited on Wed May-07-08 10:37 AM by 4themind
or just repudiate, their characterization of race as indicative of future trends in the G.E. ..race. Just more Slice and Dice politics.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:34 AM
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8. Those comments might have made sense in March.
Good gawd. Are they delusional?


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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:37 AM
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Translation: He's BLACK! For the love of God, are you people blind???? n/t
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:40 AM
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11. Translation: "If we were all white, I'd have won this thing by now"
Paired with her earlier statement claiming that if we ran primaries the way Republicans do she's have already won, I'd say that she wants us to all be white Republicans.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:37 AM
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10. NC doesn't count. ..it's the astral signs that do
:evilgrin:
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:43 AM
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12. Wow, so the white vote matters above all other votes
That's a great campaign to run in 2008!
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:44 AM
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13. That's really pathetic........
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:57 AM
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14. More evidence of Hillary's lack of judgment: The character of the people she surrounds herself with.
Wow, it's just Slime-a-palooza 24/7 around the Clinton camp, isn't it?
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:19 AM
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17. I'm listening, and what I'm hearing is...
"The sherrif's a ni-*bong!*"
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:22 AM
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18. Actually, it was the same showing Obama had in other southern states
None of which he can carry if he's the candidate in the GE.

From MYDD - Obama's totals

Black (30%) White (61%)
Georgia 88 43

Black (30%) White (61%)
Virginia 90 52

Black (34%) White (62%)
North Carolina 91 37
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:22 AM
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19. I'm am so sick of slicing and dicing this country up into demographic groups, we are ONE country.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:08 PM
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20. Me too. And I seem to remember a young state senator saying something similar
at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
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