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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:15 PM
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Hillary's biggest problem right now
Edited on Wed May-07-08 06:16 PM by Jake3463
This my take on how the next few days are going to are going to play out.

It isn't the money. It isn't the math. It's the media. She is about to become Huckabee in their eyes if she keeps campaigning.

What was Huckabee a punchline. Huckabee went with it because I think he enjoyed becoming a national figure. Hillary already is a national figure. She risk damaging her reputation by staying in and her position with the party.

She has a 24-48 hour grace period. Than the knives come out. If you think they were bad as a Hillary supporter before...watch out.

Hillary can't go appearing on the morning shows or any other show because the first 10 minutes of any interview will be her explaining how she can still possibly win. With the interviewer expressing massive skeptism. She won't get any issue she wants to talk about it. All the questions are going to be why aren't you a loser?

The media is also stubborn. They called this last night. Matthews, Russert, Stephanopolis, and Wallace all called this. Once they call something they call it and they will bias their reporting fairly or not to show how she's out of this. Even if she had a chance she doesn't in their eyes and that is what they will report.

Eventually they are going to ignore her because she won't be a story anymore. She might get some local coverage but not as much before. Also her crowds aren't going to be as big because the national media will be repeating the loser narrative.

The only way she will be able to get coverage is by ruthlessly attacking Obama. She does that the party stops her by a massive endorsement for Obama and ends it in a day. Loyal supporters like Feinstien made that warning shot today.

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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:17 PM
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1. She will become a caricature of herself.
I don't feel bad for her at all --She's doing this to herself.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:26 PM
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2. What Hillary must now do:
She must dig down deep inside of her and find the strength to leave with grace and dignity. Anything short of that will damage her legacy and the way she is remembered by history.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:28 PM
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3. The longer she stays, the more she damages her future in politics....
So there is a bright side to it.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:31 PM
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4. You're right about people like Russert.
He's called it, and will report everything now from this viewpoint.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:33 PM
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5. No, its the math...Even the perception battle has fallen under its weight...
Until the math became crystal clear, Hillary could still control the perception battle in the MSM. Now even that is out of her control.

Bottom line, a reality-based view of the campaign has finally taken over the bloviator class...
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:35 PM
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6. Despite the problems she is likely to stay in the race till June 3 and perhaps beyond
So we REALLY need to be working HARD to finish this! There is multiple difficult contests ahead and we really need to get to work! PLEASE phonebank!!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:36 PM
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7. Informed speculation now becomes conventional wisdom. That means it's over.
Good points here. She can't do any interviews without sounding ridiculous in lauding her "big win" in Indiana and ignoring North Carolina. She will quickly pass through the pathetic stage (Huckabee) to the ridiculous end (Ron Paul).

I can't see her doing that. I think her family and friends will put an end to it, certainly no later than after wins in WV and KY.

If she lasts that long.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:44 PM
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8. Last night media shook off their Rev Wright binge drinking, and suddenly realized "hey, she's done!"
In the cold light of day, today, that judgment is more sound than ever. We can all predict within 50 delegates how the last couple hundred pledged delegates play out. That race is finished, if not over. He's way too far out in front. And it's not just the delegates. It's everything. It's the money he has, and the money she doesn't have. It's the 30 plus victories she cannot come close to reaching. She will not win 20 contests, even with help from Rushbo.
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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:08 PM
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9. I have been saying this for weeks...
Edited on Wed May-07-08 07:09 PM by DontTreadOnMe
I think she already has reached a point of complete damage to her credibility,
thus hurting any chances of her running for President in the future.
If she had dropped out thirty days ago, she could have easily tried to run again.

The "win at any cost" will not be kind to her legacy, and could potentially hurt
her current role in the Senate.

she comes off as a Republican-Lite... and that will also affect Bill's legacy as well.

And for the record, I voted for Bill... twice.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:17 PM
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10. I was always loyal to Bill, always took up for all 3 of them, even when they didn't deserve it.
Edited on Wed May-07-08 07:18 PM by TexasObserver
All that changed in January. I have been shocked beyond words by the brute manner they have abandoned all sense of propriety in their addressing race in this. As soon as she lost Iowa, they started in with it. The first shot fired was a New Hampshire Clinton surrogate talking about his "drug" past and implying from it things we all know were intended to be implied.

Any time I hear someone I know use the N word disrespectfully and with antipathy, I can never think of them the same again. That's exactly how I feel about the Clintons. They did it. They went there, over and over. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:39 PM
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11. Hillary has ONE purpose: To make SURE a Democrat doesn't win in November. n/t
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:06 PM
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12. If she stops the negativity, I couldn't care less if she wastes her time.
Obama isn't going to pay her much heed from now on. He's going after McCain.

Let her make some money to pay off her debt, so Obama supporters don't end up footing her bills.

If she does a Huckabee, fine. But if she keeps up the kitchen sink, Dems will and should run her out of the party on a rail.

Now is the time for unity. Dems have to concentrate on McCain. If Clinton wants to stay in and put out a Democratic message, I've no problem with that.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:07 PM
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13. I think that's a pretty fair analysis. I hope she chooses Good over destructive Selfishness. n/t
PB
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:17 PM
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14. I agree.
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