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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:28 AM
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Obama just brought me to tears on CNN
OMG. We are so lucky to have Senator Obama as our likely nominee and likely next president. I just watched him talking about how much his mother meant to him. How he owed everything he is to her. He then talked about the tremendous job that Michelle Obama is doing raising their two children while he's so busy with his presidential run.

I just see the kindness, generosity, and greatness in this man. His personal qualities speak volumes about the kind of person he is. We, again, are so lucky that he has come along at this time. He'll be one of our greatest presidents in the realm of Lincoln, Roosevelt and Kennedy.

He is a dream come true.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:29 AM
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1. Yep. He's awesome.
:woohoo: :hi:
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piesRsquare Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:30 AM
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2. Good Lord...
:puke:
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:35 AM
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18. Classy.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:39 AM
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30. did you see it?
He was talking with deep affection about his dead mother - the woman he said had more impact on who he is than anyother person.



And then he made a very warm compliment to his wife as being a great mother


It was all a part of trying to say something nice about mothers before mothers day




What the fuck is wrong with you anyway?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:24 AM
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105. I'm really hoping he takes after her in one very significant way
--that is to say thinking outside the box. Talk about just going and doing things that nice young white ladies from Kansas never, ever are supposed to do. She was not only outside the box, she was nowhere even close to the shipping crate the box came in! His dad seemed more like the human neurotypical norm--when culture shock gets tough, get out of Dodge and back to familiar faces.

We are in for a real economic/ecological shitstorm, and we are really going to need an unconventional thinker in the White House.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:19 AM
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148. Jimmy Carter wrote a book about his mother.
Has Obama done that (yet)?

Call me cynical, but I just don't worship politicians like you do. Not ANY of 'em. You're setting yourself up for disappointment to expect him (or anyone, for that matter) to be Mount Rushmore material.

Bake
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:05 AM
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64. They are a cult.
Swooning and fainting at the sight of their master.

It is disgusting. :puke: :puke:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:19 AM
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118. i know it's hard to accept the suckitude of hillary's failed campiagn...
banky will make it better;
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:41 AM
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133. Spoken like a true believer denigrating the outsiders.
:freak:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:53 PM
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169. When he's the nominee, people here will be expected to follow the rules re: Support in the GE.
Just as they would if it were Hillary.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:23 AM
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151. you know what NJS
I'm gonna call you out on your bullshit every time I see you say this kind of crap. You were one of the biggest Obama supporters on this site railing at all the Hillbots and fans of The Goddess of Peace until her Pennsy win . You have zero credibility in my eyes-you're like a football fan who starts wearing the jerseys and hats of the last SB Championship team
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:47 PM
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155. How did you spout out all that between your blubbering crying jag over the anointed one?
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:50 PM
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157. Also what you accused NJS of the OP has changed his candidate support more times then
you change your underwear.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:51 PM
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168. there's no accusing going on goldie
it's stating facts-I am baffled to be honest--NJS was a member of my support team here-a confidante that I felt comfortable enough with to PM
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:54 PM
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185. The transformation is astonishing
I can understand switching candidates, but going from despising one candidate to singing her praises and despising her opponent is kind of strange. If NJS were really just concerned about electability, he/she would not have become such an Obama hater.

Here are a few examples of NJS' posts before the PA primary, when he/she was supporting Obama:

She is a complete disgrace. Everything is politically collateral to her. She has no shame, no conscience at all. She makes me fucking sick.

10. Hillary is showing her true colors - and it is scary. We don't need serial liars in our White House. We already have one right now and we are trying to get him out of there.

What stupid things has Hillary said during this Compassion Forum? Keep me updated, I'm not watching it right now. I'm watching the Red Sox vs. Yankee game. She had to say something that threw the Democratic party and its members under the bus (like usual)... right?

Then, after becoming a Clinton supporter:

64. They are a cult. Swooning and fainting at the sight of their master. It is disgusting.

This is what happens as this forum has evolved from Democratic Underground to Obama Underground. The people with actual jobs have left here and are unwilling to donate, while the people who live in their parent's basements don't want to have to use their parent's credit card to donate. Don't expect a cent from me until this place is cleaned up of the most vile Obama supporters.

Pretty stunning transformation over the span of a few weeks. Makes me wonder if NJS was ever really fond of either candidate. I did a search, and most of NJS' posts are bashing one candidate, not supporting either. Makes me wonder...

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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:47 AM
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101. I herd sour grapes can give you and upset stomach. nt
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:19 AM
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117. you bitter edwards people are funny. he sucked, he lost, get used to it already...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:54 AM
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142. Hey they have little 'rag on the Obamites' parties in the Edwards forum...
perhaps you could just join the hatefest there, and not pollute these threads?

Cause, you know... they already think that NOBODY pollutes positive threads but those nasty, evil, satanist, baby-eating OBAMANOIDS! So... you're kind of killing their ability to believe their own propaganda.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:35 PM
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159. Please note I have't posted there, redqueen
I think it is as vile as anything I've read here.


Just sayin'.


:hi:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:47 PM
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162. Aww...
you're exceptionally awesome, you know that?

:hi:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:24 PM
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163. Takes one to know one...
I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel!

:hi:
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:27 PM
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174. Go Puke in HRCs mother's day thread.
Or go start one if there isn't one for her, yet.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:30 AM
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3. Especially her black separatist ideology.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:31 AM
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5. Obama's mother's?
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:32 AM
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7. Sorry, sloppy reader, I thought he meant Michelle.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:39 AM
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29. I understand.
I didn't realize that Michelle Obama is a black separatist.

If she's a black sepratist, why would she marry a man who's half white and breed with him twice?
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:41 AM
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35. I cannot express
how absolutely f***in' funny that was...

:rofl:
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:24 AM
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127. "breed with him twice"... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
:rofl:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:42 AM
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40. Why would they attend Wright's church, let their daughters listen?
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:47 AM
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55. How does that address my question?
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:06 AM
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Wright is a black separatist?
You clearly do not understand a goddamn thing about the black church. Don't interject your cultural ignorance where it isn't wanted.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:32 AM
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130. cultural ignorance is exactly right...
And it isn't just the black church, It's any church where the congregation is predominantly a particular minority.

White people who have hardly interacted with minorities, far less gone to church with them, just don't know what the fuck they are talking about.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:37 PM
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161. What a broad brush you paint white people with...
How would this look to you?

"Black people who have hardly interacted with white people, far less gone to church with them, just don't know what the fuck they are talking about."
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:53 AM
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141. hahaha!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:56 AM
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143. Hah. If only that kind of rational thinking could end such RW BS filth...
*sigh*
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:41 AM
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39. That is such BS

You've been drinking the kool aid.

If you're refering to a thesis at Princeton you're dead wrong.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:20 AM
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119. ...
sad lil shillbot, banky will make all better;
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jeffrey_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:26 AM
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129. welcome to ignore.
eom
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:30 PM
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175. wow. new lows every day.
sad.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:32 AM
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6. ooooooh scaaaary
she's a closet black separatist...

:scared:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:33 AM
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13. Pretty much out in the open. Read her thesis. Listen to Wright again and
Farrahkan (sp?)
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:46 AM
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52. I have.
It's not about black separatism, it's about how isolated her and many blacks felt at Princeton b/c of their race, being a minority in an overwhelmingly white university. You don't have a clue what that feels like because you've never been in that position.

Yet that doesn't stop you from trying to twist those feelings of alienation and marginalization she understandably felt to try to scare people into believing she's a "black separatist", purely to gain political advantage. (As if on the list of things this country has to worry about, "black separatism"--and stealth black separatists trying to take over the white house--is really high on that list.) :eyes:

You disgust me.

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/04/12/roommate_0413.html



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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:45 AM
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109. having grown up white in Princeton, there was (is?) serious marginalization-

this thread is disgusting.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:49 AM
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102. This is a post
it is made of fail and poo.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:23 AM
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70. who married a biracial man...oops!
:eyes:
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:31 AM
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94. misleading
In this country - and this is important if we are to understand racism - no matter how much "white blood" a person has, they are still seen as "Black" by whites, based on superficial physical characteristics. White is seen as something "pure" and "uncontaminated" by "other races" - that notion is a critical and essential component of racism. Sadly, "bi-racial" still does not exist in our culture, unless the person is a descendant of parents from two "non white" races. If a person has superficial physical characteristics that whites associate with "Oriental" and superficial physical characteristics that whites associate with "Black," then they get confused, and that is when the term "bi-racial" is used to help whites keep things clear in their minds, and the reason for the need to keep things clear is to prevent any threats to white privilege. Whites can't "see" Caucasian features in a person who also has Black ancestors, because the power of "seeing" other races - and race is something imaginary that whites think they can "see" - overwhelms that. "White" to whites means no hint of anything associated with the "other" - and historically presumed to be lesser and inferior and subject - races. People are mistreated based upon appearance, and a person can have 90% white ancestors, and still be "seen" as Black by whites, and treated accordingly.

There is no such thing as racism that does not rest on the implicit premise that there is a "standard" or "pure" race by which other races can be contrasted and compared, and without privilege and status for the "superior" race, and without oppression and mistreatment for the less favored race.That is what racism is, and to strip from our understanding those components is to render the concept powerless and meaningless.

There can be no such thing as "reverse racism" and there is also no practical and functional "bi-racial" category that includes white parents or ancestors. Both of those are indicative of denial of racism or a misunderstanding of racism.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:46 PM
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167. Great post, I'm going to quote this.
Did you write this or is this a quote from a source?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:32 AM
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8. She doesn't have a black separatist ideology........
Edited on Fri May-09-08 12:33 AM by FrenchieCat
Which is why she went to Princeton and not Howard University.

She does understand the fact that America has been inherently racist. Are you denying that?
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:43 AM
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43. Not denying, but reinforcing seems to be the motive now.
Sad to say...as HRC goes, so go her supporters?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:32 AM
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11. thank you for that comment
you really help clarify the two extremes of Clinton supporters. Decent, intelligent, creative people on the one hand and on the other hand




you.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:35 AM
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19. Deleted
Edited on Fri May-09-08 12:36 AM by Tropics_Dude83
Sorry. got messed up.
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:36 AM
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24. n/m
Edited on Fri May-09-08 12:37 AM by swishyfeet
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:34 AM
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17. you just couldn't resist coming into this very nice heartfelt thread
where a DUer was expressing an honest connection with his candidate and leaving a great big turd.


What is your hobby drowning kittens?
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:35 AM
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20. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
seriously, either get your facts straight or shut up! Black liberation theology is NOTHING like black seperatist ideology, but I suppose it doesn't matter to you, you have opened your mind to hate and venom! :puke:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88512189
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:44 AM
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48. You expect different from a low information voter? nt
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:47 AM
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54. LOL
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:36 AM
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23. aw......wassamatta???
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:44 AM
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47. OMG! That....lightswitch!
:rofl:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:25 AM
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72. that`s just plain wrong......
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:56 AM
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113. i'm dying over here lol
look at how the kiddies are so reverently and adoringly eyeballing jesus' holy boner lol

and christ is looking at it like, 'yes, children- my sacred meat is quite impressive; it is the way and the light... literally'

i could go on but i'm trying to stay off of the hell express

i'm cracking up tho
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:01 AM
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136. !
:rofl:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:36 AM
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25. What a jackass
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:40 AM
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33. You forgot to add the word "think" to your button.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:46 AM
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53. Another example of RU, RacistUnderground.com
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:12 AM
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66. Hey, I found a picture of you:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:44 AM
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77. ...
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:14 AM
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104. lol that's just gross! :D
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:22 AM
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69. what is this "black separatist ideology" you speak of ?
is this the same thing as hillary clinton`s "white voter ideology" or a variant on it?


what a depressing world it must be where everything is seen as black or white......
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:10 AM
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84. not accurate
There is nothing that ties either of the Obamas to "Black separatist ideology" that I have ever seen - quite to the contrary.

Posts like this are damaging on several levels. We have an enormous task in front of us, as it looks likely that Obama will be the nominee, and we need to talk about race with intelligence and accuracy, at the very least. This also hurts all Clinton supporters, because it reinforces a suspicion that people already have regarding race and opposition to Obama's candidacy and adds fuel to what is already a raging and destructive fire.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:21 AM
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90. You must have been so proud of Hillary's racist remarks on Thursday.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:42 AM
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134. And a muslim to boot right?
Fucking disgusting.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #3
164. Meanwhile the Clintons demand reparations for Hillary...
Victimhood doesn't come cheap.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:31 AM
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4. lol
:rofl:
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #4
12. Black separtist ideology??
Come on! His entire career and record is the antihesis to that.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:34 AM
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16. You haven't been doing your homework.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #16
26. And you've apparently just been using the cliffs notes from
hannity, FOX and whatever you pull out of your own ass!
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #26
31. You are who your friends are.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #31
36. Yes, and you and yours are some of the biggest shitheads DU has ever seen.
:hi:
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:15 AM
Response to Reply #36
116. No, sorry you win that prize hands down.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #31
37. the stupid is making my head hurt...
I actually like the clintons, but if I judged them by some of the company they keep?
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lcdnumber6 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:28 AM
Response to Reply #31
74. just f**ing stop it.
"I know you are, but what am I?"

GROW UP
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #31
80. Won't be long now.
After she steps down will you hang out till the GE or do you think you'll go right away??
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:22 AM
Response to Reply #31
91. So Hillary Clinton is the dictator of Kazaksthan?
And the CEO of Wal-Mart? And the ally of the union-murdering president of Colombia?

Hey you said it not me.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #26
41. i do not need their cliff notes if indeed they have them (don't listen) but I have read Michele's
thesis. It is as the poster says it is--separtist ideology.

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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #41
44. Obama helped Minister Farrahkan organize the Million Man March.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #44
50. Wow, that was a wonderful, peaceful rally. Excellent Job Obama.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:54 AM
Response to Reply #44
60. FAIL...
I attended the fourth of july parade, can I take organizational credit now?


"As the ominous music continued, Hannity said, "We have learned about Obama's attendance from an interview he conducted with the Chicago Reader in 1995… FOX News has learned from the interviewer… that Obama went to the march to quote better understand the movement and wanted to be an observer, rather than a participant." In other words, Obama had expressly distanced himself from Farrakhan even then, long before the 2008 presidential campaign.

But Hannity ignored that fact and made a deliberate effort to smear Obama nonetheless. In his tabloidy voice, Hannity said, “Among the Million Man March's participants was Rev. Jeremiah Wright! However, it is not known whether Barack Obama attended the march with his controversial pastor of 20 years but many prominent leaders and politicians wanted absolutely nothing to do with the event
http://www.newshounds.us/2008/04/20/despite_obamas_criticisms_of_million_man_march_raceobsessed_hannity_tries_to_paint_him_as_bigoted_soulmate_of_farrakhan.php

"In a long article on the young Barack Obama in the Chicago Reader, December 8, 1995, as he was launching his political career, I found something I had not known before:


"Obama took time off from attending campaign coffees to attend October's Million Man March in Washington, D.C."
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/03/obama-flew-to-dc-to-attend-farrakhans.html
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #44
68. No kidding.
Great. So many positive things resulted from that march. :thumbsup:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #44
73. I remember that.
800,000 black men descended upon Washington DC, and the crime stats for the city went DOWN for the duration of the event.

Scary.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:54 AM
Response to Reply #44
81. So? Isn't that what AMERICA is all about??
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:55 AM
Response to Reply #44
82. link?
Let me guess. You heard that on Fox News?

Kindly provide a link to your assertion that Obama helped organize the Million Man March please.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:15 AM
Response to Reply #82
86. Kindly use Google. It is a well know fact . you should find it easy.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:50 AM
Response to Reply #86
103. It are a fact
I read about it on the internets.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #86
126. rodeodance -- prove to me with a legitimate link that Obama helped organize the march


Yes, he attended -- that dates back to a 1995 article that I myself have posted here on DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5557970
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #86
153. I'm still waiting for the link that shows Obama organizing the Million Man March
got one?
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #153
179. It only took him 6 days to plan it. On the 7th day, he rested.
:rofl:


Ok, I HAD to make that joke.


HE DID NOT PLAN THE MARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #179
184. ...
:spank:
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #86
170. Got that link, yet, rodeodance?
No? I didn't think so -- keep looking, let me know what you find
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #82
122. here is a link (or two)
to the truth (not the claim of the poster):

In a long article on the young Barack Obama in the Chicago Reader, December 8, 1995, as he was launching his political career, I found something I had not known before:

"Obama took time off from attending campaign coffees to attend October's Million Man March in Washington, D.C."
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/03/obama-flew-to-dc-to-attend-farrakhans.html

Hannity said breathlessly, "Among the spectators that day, Senator Barack Obama!" A menacing looking photo of Obama was shown. Hannity didn’t mention that some of the other spectators included Stevie Wonder, Maya Angelou, and Rosa Parks.

As the ominous music continued, Hannity said, "We have learned about Obama's attendance from an interview he conducted with the Chicago Reader in 1995… FOX News has learned from the interviewer… that Obama went to the march to quote better understand the movement and wanted to be an observer, rather than a participant." In other words, Obama had expressly distanced himself from Farrakhan even then, long before the 2008 presidential campaign.
http://www.newshounds.us/2008/04/20/despite_obamas_criticisms_of_million_man_march_raceobsessed_hannity_tries_to_paint_him_as_bigoted_soulmate_of_farrakhan.php
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #122
124. Yes, he attended the Million Man March
But the poster said he helped Farrakhan organize it. I am fully aware of the special Fox News 'Alert' that Hannity did on Obama and the Million Man March -- as if there was something 'wrong' in Obama attending -- I posted about it much earlier
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #124
125. I know ...
The reason I posted those links is that (aside from some winger blogs) there is NOTHING that supports the posters claim. Unless I get to claim credit for organizing the fourth of July parades I have attended, the claim is full of shit...
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #125
131. Yes, thank you, mcctatas
Thanks for pointing that out and I apologize if I was short -- It just infuriates me that we have Hillary supporters here on DU who repeat crap lies they hear on Fox News 'Alerts' and that are found, repeated, on all the right wing blogs and radio shows.

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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:39 AM
Response to Reply #44
97. what is wrong with the Million Man March?
I thought it was very powerful and positive - actually one of the most moving and inspirational events in my life.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:36 AM
Response to Reply #97
132. Nothing
there is nothing wrong with it --

Hannity, however, believes otherwise, as apparently some of Hillary's supporters do

just more 'scary black man' racist crap on DU
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:58 AM
Response to Reply #44
114. You're just terrified of black people
aren't you?
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #44
128. Since when is the Million Man March viewed unfavorably?
I really have to start watching more Fox News so I can get my mind right.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #44
183. Do you realize you are quoting hate radio verbatim?
WTF are you doing at DEMOCRATIC Underground?

:shrug:
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:50 AM
Response to Reply #41
57. Gee, when I read it it was all about being a very small minority
on an ivy league campus and wondering if people of color who graduated from that school were more or less likely to try and get active in the black community after graduation. See a thesis is a statement of what you intend to prove through the research and data you are presenting, there was nothing seperatist about her thesis statement or her final product, of course if you really read it, you know that...

To research her thesis, the future Mrs. Obama sent an 18-question survey to a sampling of 400 black Princeton graduates, requesting the respondents define the amount of time and "comfort" level spent interacting with blacks and whites before they attended the school, as well as during and after their University years. Other questions dealt with their individual religious beliefs, living arrangements, careers, role models, economic status, and thoughts about lower class blacks. In addition, those surveyed were asked to choose whether they were more in line with a "separationist and/or pluralist" viewpoint or an "integrationist and/or assimilationist" ideology.

Just under 90 alums responded to the questionnaires (for a response rate of approximately 22 percent) and the conclusions were not what she expected. "I hoped that these findings would help me conclude that despite the high degree of identification with whites as a result of the educational and occupational path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would still maintain a certain level of identification with the black community. However, these findings do not support this possibility."
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642_Page2.html
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:54 AM
Response to Reply #41
59. I read it and I am saying that you are completely full of shit
it was a sample oriented study of reactions by Princeton Alumn - having gone to Princeton I know exactly what she was talking about


Now please show me the exact citations that address a separtist ideology


cut and paste it right under this


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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:01 AM
Response to Reply #41
61. Bullshit. You couldn't get through her thesis with a tutor and a dictionary.
However, you are a profligate liar.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:14 AM
Response to Reply #61
85. actually, it was not that well-written for a thesis. She should have had it edited.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #41
76. How could anyone trust anything you say now? tsk tsk.....
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:51 AM
Response to Reply #41
79. Do you know what a thesis is??
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:18 AM
Response to Reply #79
88. you bet I do sweetie.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:46 AM
Response to Reply #41
100. just not true, rodeodance
Black liberation ideologies are not the same as Black separatist ideology. It is a common mistake on the part of whites to lump any and all critiques of racism into the same category. Not a good path to go down; it in essence is saying "if you've seen one you've seen them all." Can you see that? Not good.

Regardless of which candidate we support, we need to stand united against racist ideas, especially since, as seems likely, we will be running a Democratic party candidate for the presidency who happens to be a Black man. We have to stand together on this, and stand fast. You know I am not an Obama supporter, and I hope you will give thoughtful consideration to what I am saying here.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #16
75. i must have missed that lecture from dr david duke or was it paul fromm?
you have a copy of the class lecture?
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:32 AM
Response to Original message
9. Wow--giving kudos to mother and wife...
...How long before someone calls this misogyny?
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #9
22. It's such a NEW cliche. ROFL! Never been done before, nope.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:34 AM
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14. It might have been the onions too.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:35 AM
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21. Thank you for your nice post
somedays we just get so close we don't see what is going on and then what it strikes us we got something special.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:38 AM
Response to Reply #21
28. Thanks Grant
We do have something special indeed.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:37 AM
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27. Were your tears REAL?? Or did you just fake the crying?
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #27
32. Ironic coming from a hillary supporter...
I would think you would be sensitive to mocking someones tears or questioning thier sincerity...
who knew? :shrug:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #32
49. I was mocking the OP and Obama fans in general who made fun of Hillary
Edited on Fri May-09-08 12:45 AM by rodeodance
for months related to tears.


And if you did not catch that you did not want to or you are dense.

and don't lecture me after all the smears you folks have done.




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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #49
62. Yeah...
I caught it silly, I was just wondering why you would think it was an ok thing to mock. I thought it was bullshit when people slammed hillary for showing genuine emotion and I was surprised that, knowing how ridiculous it made those posters appear to you, you would use the same tactic. Oh well, live and learn:)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:10 AM
Response to Reply #62
83. I am glad you were not one of them. Thank you.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #27
34. did you see it?

He was talking with deep affection about his dead mother - the woman he said had more impact on who he is than anyother person.



And then he made a very warm compliment to his wife as being a great mother


It was all a part of trying to say something nice about mothers before mothers day




What the fuck is wrong with you anyway?


Obama can't even say something nice about his dead mother and you got to humiliate yourself?


Even Blitzer was moved for God's sake
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:20 AM
Response to Reply #34
67. I think some of the dead enders here are just running with anything
they can...I expect the vituperation will include his children pretty soon.

They are pathetic.

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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #67
178. They're like roaches in a steal box that just realized they can't get out.
Soon they'll start eating their own... It won't be long now.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #27
177. Kinda Creepy, Isn't It?
When I saw this, it did creep me out a bit. Sorry, but it did.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:41 AM
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38. I was so touched by it
I was signing my card to my Mother for Mother's Day while I watched the interview.

She is almost 90. Her Memory is fading and she was crying today because she is losing the sight in her left eye.

I was so sad and when he started talking about his Mom,he seemed to be emotionally full - like me.

I also loved the way he talked about the Mother of his children.

It was not the question asked but he expanded his answer to include his wife.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #38
42. it was very classy
Edited on Fri May-09-08 12:49 AM by grantcart
it wasn't mauldin or anything

made you want to meet her.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #42
45. classy and sincere
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:20 AM
Response to Reply #38
89. I agree. I was reminded of that myself just a moment ago.
I think I need to go to the bathroom.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:44 AM
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46. Ugh.
I'm sorry but in my opinion your post is over the top. I find your comparisons to the three presidents you mentioned to be extremely ludicrous.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #46
56. Agree
Is he for real?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #46
58. did you see the clip
it was rather moving when Obama talked about his dead mother


maybe just maybe the OP has a dead mother and it reminded him of her or some other relative that he lost.



Can't people make a simple expression of emotion when it comes to missing a dead relative and people have to jump down their throats?
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #46
65. On Obama's best day, he couldn't measure up to JFK, FDR and Lincoln on their worst days. n/t
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:04 AM
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63. Isn't McLame also talking about his mother? (Amazingly, she's still alive.)
And saying great things about Sindy? He's even got an ad up with the old woman.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:24 AM
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71. Is this sarcasm?
I hope so, jeez.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:25 AM
Response to Reply #71
92. Of course not.
I do, however, think the OP is to be congratulated in holding back so much on avoiding the clear and obvious biblical comparisons of Obama with Solomon and perhaps even Jesus.

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:42 AM
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99. lol!
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:46 AM
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78. Nice post, but I'm sorry, I don't trust you. You seem to be too easily
swayed by whatever popular opinion is, at the moment. If you're sincere, I beg your pardon. If not....whatever.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:18 AM
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87. He often makes me cry too
I weep for the country sometimes.

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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:25 AM
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93. He's not afraid to be human
unlike so many other politicians.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:34 AM
Response to Original message
95. In the 2 hours since you posted this and several people trampled on your
sincere feelings it is nice to know that Obama has netted 3 super delegates.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:40 AM
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98. Were the choco-rations increased by 3.4% ?
Doubleplusgood! Melike choco-rations! Beniful news!
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:38 AM
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96. Enough with the hero worship.
He's a politician like the rest of them. We can only hope he wins in the GE and does a good job as president, but do we really need to act like the "Bush was selected by God" Republicans?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:56 AM
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106. Let's not put him on fucking Mount Rushmore yet.
I've been on the Obama bandwagon since early March and I'm down with the hope and the new politics and the man but come on. We're not really sure what he's going to be able to deliver should he be fortunate enough to gain the office. Two things I know for sure, he will not be status quo and he simply cannot be worse than the BFEE. Let's take a deep breath and focus on winning in November before we take such a ludicrous step as to compare him to FDR or Lincoln. Focus.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:41 AM
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108. Nothing against Senator Obama but....
he is not the second coming of Christ. It is going to be a long way down for some people who are practically worshiping him. He has not done anything yet to warrant the comparisons to some of our greatest leaders. They received that distinction by their actions. We have not really seen what Obama can and will do in the future. I sincerely hope we are not disappointed, but I remain reserved and objective. We should never put politicians on such a pedestal. It is dangerous. The country is so desperate after Bush that they are clinging all of their hopes and dreams on Obama. He is only human after all. Martin Luther King brought tears to my eyes. Obama does not. People who cry over what he says in a speech or in the media are ridiculous and they scare the hell out of me. Never give someone that much power over us. It is what Republicans did with Bush and look what they got.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:32 AM
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107. K/R.
:kick:
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:48 AM
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110. I feel it too. A gentle kind man with a big heart. You can't fake that. He is very authentic, and
I think that a majority of the people see this about him. That is why he has a damn good chance of becoming president.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:49 AM
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111. When he becomes the nominee will he free his
grandmother from seclusion? That would bring me to tears.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:00 AM
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135. Yep. Free grandma RIGHT FUCKING NOW11!!11!! Lmao.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:51 AM
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112. MODS! TOMBSTONES ON AISLE 12!

Can we tombstone some of these responses for idiocy? or should it just be for the racism?


Thank you Tropics_Dude83 for sharing your reaction.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:51 AM
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121. No, that would be aisle 112.
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avenger64 Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:58 AM
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115. Great. He makes people cry. Now if he only had some substantive ...
.... policy and experience that would make him a good candidate, he might be able to beat John McCain, which he won't.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:49 AM
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120. Lay off the onions or seek help.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:59 AM
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123. O BA MA
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:20 AM
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137. Aren't you glad you came back?
I'm glad you saw the light the other day...it made me sad when you decided to stop supporting him because you didn't think he could win, when your earlier posts had made it clear that in your heart you thought he'd be the better president.
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wrando Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:51 AM
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139. yes he is dreamy
or a stuttering nightmare

Heil Obama!

bill from ct
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:52 AM
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140. Easy there, partner.
You're putting up some awfully big shoes for him to fill.

He's very inspring, though, yes. :)
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:57 AM
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144. And so the diminished expectations game begins...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:05 AM
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145. Jesus. Give it a rest would you?
You do know you're supposed to be on the "victim" side, right? The gracious true Dems who are never nasty and never provoke us evil, hateful, vile, lemming Obamanoids?
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:10 AM
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146. Oh, ew.
This is the sort of messiah-worship that has turned me off to Obama since the beginning of these primaries.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:13 AM
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147. I don't think it's "messiah worship"
I cried watching the Democratic Convention every year since 1992, John Edwards has moved me to tears and so has Bill Clinton on more than one occasion. Raw emotional responses do not constitute worship, they just show humanity...
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:20 AM
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149. You do understand these are all politicians we're talking about here, right?
You don't think they actually mean all these things they say?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:04 PM
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165. Oh my GAWD!
I really didn't think this needed to be said, but you were perfectly right in saying it!

Politicians are notorious fibbers, since their breed came into the light they have been actors with great craft.

I think we need to have a huge viewing party... the film I'd choose: The Candidate... you can't help but see every politician you've ever known and loved in Robert Redford's lead performance. That's why I've always cringed when I saw someone say how "inspired" they were with Obama's speaking... well I'm here to tell you, there were an awful lot of inspired listeners to Hitler's speeches... and to Jim Jones' speeches. Except Jones handed out actual Kool Aid.

I'll vote for him if he gets the nom, but I'm no more inspired by him than I am with the cold tea at coagulating at the bottom of my cup right now.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:16 PM
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166. If you weren't so anxious to get snarky you would have figured
out that I was talking about viewers raw human emotions, not politicians...
I cried at the end of "Terms of Endearment" too, my point is that people are moved to tears by a lot of things, movies, political speeches, hell my mom cries during the Olympics. I was not remarking on the genuineness of the politicians, but on our responses to them...:yoiks:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:56 PM
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180. Did you see the clip
It was a touching moment about one man talking about his deceased mother


Had it been McCain or anybody else and they talked with the same honesty and directness I would have been similarly impressed.

Did you see the clip?
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wrando Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:22 AM
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150. get a grip
these are politicians for god sake

bill from ct
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:16 PM
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173. Remember. We gotta really big tent. There's no reason for you to bcome so hostile.
What's that about?
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:41 PM
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154. Oh for the love of...It looks like the democratic party has their own version of Bush.
Edited on Fri May-09-08 12:44 PM by golddigger
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:02 PM
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182. I think this EVERY day
Many of our fellow party members have become the very thing we have rallied against these last 8 years.
It's downright depressing.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:47 PM
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156. I just love the man to, he is a great Candidate !!!
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:36 PM
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160. Bamboozled -- NT
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:57 PM
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181. You saw the clip?????
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:13 PM
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171. Here's why this Oregon Boomer supports Obama all the way!!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:16 PM
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172. Truly. I said this yesterday too, but he's an extraordinary person.
He has wisdom and vigor, hope, a paradoxical combination.

He's going to be really something as our President.
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:32 PM
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176. so many people eager to rain on the parade
obama supporters-- brush it off. he showed you how, we can follow suit.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:55 PM
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186. OMG - BARF.
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