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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:18 AM Original message |
If Hillary Clinton is a racist, then Barack Obama is assuredly a homophobe. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. So Obama talked about how he deserves the nomination because "Straight Americans" support him? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Excellent analogy! |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Meanwhile, Hillary does her own dogwhistling. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. In just three posts, this subthread covers it perfectly! Bravo! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. It's much more insidious than that, OB |
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Aloha Spirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. hehe |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. well, hill never said that, did she? you're just lying for obama. nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. STOP changing the subject! eom |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
72. right; we've got to stick with the race-baiting from O-ists. nt |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
3. Give it a rest |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
4. Enough with the whining. |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
5. Wow, what'd he say? n/t |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
6. You know we only have 3 top post a day right? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
7. That means you regard both equally. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
8. Richard Mellon Scaife Wants To Execute Homosexuals |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I love how you leave out the small details. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. "Oh, she's only coddling up to homophobes because she wants them to endorse her!" |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. It is a freaking newspaper. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. So that makes it cool, then. It's okay to love up homophobes if they got what you want. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
40. So was this Der Sturmer. Scaife's paper is no better as an arm of the right wing n/t |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
70. Is that what Ignored said? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Here's A Nice Picture Of Dickie And Hillary Having A Chat |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Yes. At a newspaper. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Do You Have A Link On Obama |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. No, Obama met w/Post-Gazette board, NOT Scaife's rag's board |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. You appear to be correct. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
55. She could have, and should have, told him to get stuffed. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
73. she didn't reject it. a decent person would have. so what if she didn't |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
9. There is a difference between being a racist and playing racial politics |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Pandering to racism for political gain IS racist, pretty much by definition. |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Well no, I don't agree |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. That's a pretty narrow definition of racism, IMO, |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Well I think we are splitting hairs here |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Good enough. And I think yours is probably the more mainstream, |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
31. I get it. Clinton is not a racist, but she plays one on TV |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
43. How can one feel it's okay to "play racial politics" if that person believes |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. It's called "the ends justify the means" |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. If one has to "rationalize" to find the unacceptable now acceptable then it really |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. This is essentially arguing terminology more than meaning at this point |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Do you honestly believe there is anyone who "holds no beliefs |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Oh she is definitely speaking very specifically to the racial fears |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. LOL, I have enjoyed the debate.... |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
10. Oh are you still here Huey? |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
13. Wow...how did you do on the analogy section of the SAT? |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
14. Yeah, I saw Axelrod yammering on the other day about that |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
22. It's very possible that he is, but as a gay man, I'm encouraged that |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
25. The Clintons aren't racists. They are bigot panderers, which is far worse. n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
26. As someone who's witnessed his speeches in person, |
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nomorewhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
32. what an idiotic post |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
34. Of course we don't count you should know that by now |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I've seen you post this analogy a few times. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. A better analogy would be Uncle Ruckus. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Funny stuff--like the blind black racist on Dave Chappelle. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
64. Mc Clurkin has repeatedly claimed gays are targetting children |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I didn't know that. Only that he was one of the "ex-gay" loonies. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. as a gay teacher I find this lie the most pernicious |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
35. I don't think he is a homophobe. |
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hokies4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
38. Yeah! Negative mud-slinging fest |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
39. No, but keep trying. The RNC is going to have plenty of smear jobs open for applicants. nt |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
42. Obama is the only candidate who includes GLBTs in his general speeches |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
44. THis is for you |
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stevietheman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
45. Enough. n/t |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
47. He's the Nominee |
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Henry Jennings (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Why is Hillary doing this? |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
48. When did Obama say that he wins the heterosexual vote? |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
51. If you can provide examples of things he has said personally it would help your argument. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
54. Get off it. This is really getting old and stupid. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
56. From this Obamabot I have one thing to say |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
59. another post-and-run. |
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Henry Jennings (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. oic |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
67. correction, if Obama is a homophobe, then Clinton assuredly is BOTH a homophobe AND a racist |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
68. She isn't and he isn't. Next? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-09-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
69. So that means Hillary is BOTH a racist and homophobe |
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