This is NOT the first time Hillary or her staff has negatively highlighted race during her campaign.

[uponit7771]

If it was the first or even a second time in a long time then maybe we could give her the benefit of the doubt but she didn't need to place the extra adjectives in front of "white" in her description of voters Obama is having trouble attracting.

The racial politics HURT BLACKS IN THE LONG RUN. Stupid people come in all walks of life from politician to CEO of a company and they take the racial politics more seriously than they should not knowing any better.

I'll try to find it but there was a study done on why Obama is doing better in mostly white northern states with a black population under 3% and also in states with around 16 to 17% AA and the delineation was mostly the racial politics played in the states elections were low in those mostly white states and AA's made up a good portion of the electorate in the latter.

Racial politics hurt people and it's no game, there's no need to encourage those who "play" it.

Thx

[David__77]

1. It sounded terrible.

I do not think she meant to convey how that sounded. Candidates trip over their words sometimes. That said, it'd be foolish not to politically exploit it.

[WeDidIt]

2. To be honest, I think she was tired

and had an unfortunate slip of the tongue. It's revealing, but was never meant to be said.

[uponit7771]

5. Maybe, but I'm too forgiving sometimes

[highplainsdem]

11. I agree she was tired. She was also using fairly common wording Al Gore also uses

according to one DUer who replied in my topic about this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5896190

where she used the words "hard working" to mean "working class" (she's done this in a number of speeches, has never used the words "working class" as far as I could tell searching her speeches last night). She was tired as she was trying to explain the AP story and what it said about voter demographics. She forgot to mention the AP story had referred to white working-class voters, so she added that as an afterthought. And so after she was sure she was merely referring to what an AP story had just said about voter demographics, including but not limited to white working-class voters (she mentioned the other voter groups, too), she suddenly has this firestorm of controversy and denunciations because of a combination of people not understanding that political terminology AND the way it looked when she clarified that the AP story had referred to white voters.

She was NOT making a racist statement, as people have said. She probably had absolutely no idea at the time that anyone would ever see it that way. And this has been blown up so much that I don't know if she'll ever recover from it.

But I was not going to keep quiet in this forum about what I discovered about that standard political terminology, and how it changes the meaning of what she said, after I realized last night just what was going on. I'd been shocked by her saying that, too. It didn't seem possible she'd meant it to mean what people were saying it meant. And after I looked at the way she uses the words "hard working," and looked at the statement again and realized she'd added "white" solely to clarify what the AP story has said (is there anyone here who HASN'T at some time added something brief to a statement, trying to clarify it, and discovered it created more confusion?), I had to post about this.

But I'm not sure anyone cares. It's too useful to the "Hillary Clinton is a racist" meme, and all the Hillary-bashing.

[TheWraith]

16. If she didn't know how it would be seen, she's a fool.

"Hard working white people"? If she didn't know how that would be seen, it says she's completely clueless about politics. I don't believe that's true.

[lligrd]

3. Hillary Is Not A Racist

But she is desperate enough to use anything in her campaign.

I really don't get why she feels that dissing Democratic activists, young people, blacks, small states etc. is helping her campaign. All those groups are beginning to add up to an awful lot of Democrats that are unlikely to forget that she doesn't think they count.

I realize that these comments are really for the SD's but I don't think they all feel that these groups are unimportant. In fact, many of the SD's fall into one of these groups.

[ShortnFiery]

4. Both her and Bill have played that good ole Southern Strategy ever since they landed back in

Arkansas. :wow:

The Clintons are not only RACISTS they are also BIGOTS ... whatever it takes to get elected - that's what "a Clinton" will do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oRwZQLdhEw

[lligrd]

6. I Don't Think They Are Racists Or Bigots

But I do agree they would play the part if it would get them elected. My point was that blacks are not the only ones that they have sold out during this election cycle.

[wvbygod]

14. And just how did the Clintons "sell out" anyone in this election?

I really am having problems seeing how blacks or any other groups were "sold out".
Are you making this up or are there some facts out there that can confirm such an outrageous remark?

[TheWraith]

17. How about the continual marginalization of black people and the activist base?

Who are apparently lazy and driven only by identity politics, or out of touch latte sipping elitists respectively.

Or all the states like Iowa, where because they didn't vote for her, their votes suddenly didn't count.

Or the people who felt that Democrats shouldn't use fearmongering, terrorism, and swiftboating as campaign tactics.

The first and foremost people the Clintons sold out was themselves.

[wvbygod]

19. How about first telling me how the Clinton's "sold out" blacks?

I am interested in facts, not an opinion.

[uponit7771]

8. They might not be real bigots but they sure good at playing some on TV

[rodeodance]

12. so much for keeping it classy .....

[rodeodance]

13. "The Clintons are not only RACISTS they are also BIGOTS "

[uponit7771]

7. yeap, and how many SD's was she aiming that message at that DID have a degree that fealt like she

...was divisive with that comment.

[BlooInBloo]

9. It might be the first time white folks are forced to admit it, though.

[uponit7771]

10. you mean there are non degree whites that wont vote for Obama because of his race? I don't see white

...America to be as racist as HRC the MsM or the GOP say white America is.

I think they are playing old Washington politics and trying to make White America out to be more racially apathetic than they are.

[BenDavid]

15. BS! maybe you should complain to the whoremedia for the

race issues. Watching the returns the other evening you had ALL the pundits on ALL the channels were saying, "Over here in this congressional district is where the Blacks live and Obama will win there,
now over here is where the white, working-class people live, and Hillary will do well there," but when Bill Clinton states the obvious, that Jesse Jackson won Carolina twice but failed to win the White House - and bingo - he's automatically a terribly-racist man.

HELL FOLKS, I thought you obama people weren't supposed to notice if voters are Black, white or purple.

That's how silly some of you are when you call we hrc supporters bigots and racist. Maybe some of you need to look in the damn mirror and see if that damn hole in your soul as obama says all have is getting wider.

To the obama folks. What is your goal? If your goal is to nominate a Black man, you should go with Obama. But what if our goal is to win the White House?

[TheWraith]

18. Congrats on completely missing the point, and being offensive while doing it.

"but when Bill Clinton states the obvious, that Jesse Jackson won Carolina twice but failed to win the White House"

Clinton wasn't saying a black candidate will do well with black people. He was saying that Obama was a minor, unelectable candidate because he was black, and black candidates don't win. Everybody else in the world recognizes this--the die-hard Clinton supporters are the only ones who still pretend that his comment was somehow a-okay and perfectly justifiable.

"Maybe some of you need to look in the damn mirror and see if that damn hole in your soul as obama says all have is getting wider."

Please quit babbling nonsensically. It annoys me.

"To the obama folks. What is your goal? If your goal is to nominate a Black man, you should go with Obama. But what if our goal is to win the White House?"

And right after complaining that Clinton supporters are tagged for race-baiting, you go right ahead and say that a black person can't be elected? Of course, the irony will completely escape you.