Poindexter (Cool Kid Wannabe) gets it right: Clinton wasn't being racist.

[Stinky The Clown]

Poindexter is no left wing apologist. But when asked this morning if he felt she was being racist with her citation of the USA Today article, he said he didn't.

I think any thinking person would agree she wasn't.

Only loons and the media saw it that way.

on edit ... for those upon whom this Poindexter reference may be lost, he's Jonathan Capehart, editorial writer for the WaPo

[babylonsister]

1. I'll believe Joe Conason and Eugene Robinson before I'll

believe this guy, who has seemed to me to be a Clinton fan for awhile now.
Only loons and the media? What category does 'Poindexter' fall into?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5899563

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x358076

Edit to add: PS, Pat Buchanan didn't think it was racist either. Who ya gonna believe?

[redqueen]

12. Yup... can't really add much to that! Pat Buchanan, though...

that's icing on the cake...

[writes3000]

2. You can discuss race without being racist.

And I'd like to give HC the benefit of the doubt here.

My overall reservation though is that her campaign has indeed been making the strong claim that Obama cannot win because he's black. There have been report after report after this. Ed Rendell suggested that Obama wouldn't win PA - because he's black.

At a certain point, I begin to question the motives of those making this kind of "speculation".

Is it factual?

Is it wishful thinking?

Or is it masking a real racist POV?

I think these are valid questions.

[BlooInBloo]

6. History doesn't support that claim in reference to white folks.

[TwilightGardener]

3. I don't know if she inadvertently made a racist comment, without

knowing what was in her heart. However, it doesn't matter as much as the fact that she's happily trumpeting her support among uneducated whites. Bizarre behavior, and destructive.

[roseBudd]

13. It was a dog whistle, she couldn't use "states rights" that is a GOP dog whistle

[Lerkfish]

4. If I may point out the terms in your post I find objectionable.

"left wing apologist" -- what exactly do you mean by that? are you implying that pointed out racially divisive language makes you an "apologist"? What would you be apologizing for? And you use "left wing" as if its a bad thing, and you imply that being okeydokey with intentionally racially divisive rhetoric makes you a good thing, but of course, you wouldn't be "left wing" then, right?

I think any thinking person would agree she wasn't Let's "think" about this for a minute. This tiresome chestnut tries to accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being a "nonthinker", when ironically, you're daring them NOT to think but to agree with you. In other words, as long as people agree and don't think, then they're "thinking" people. Paradoxical.

Only loons and the media saw it that way Right. I guess those would be the non-thinking left-wing apologist loons, then? Does that make people who agree with you right-wing thinking poindexters?

not really sure you get the perjorative "poindexter" moniker, as it was used in the sixties.

so, to sum up: you're an idiot if you think someone using race to divide is using race to divide, you're not supposed to believe your own lying eyes but instead what you tell them to think, being left wing apologists, I guess they have to apologize to you for preemptively disagreeing with your token black "poindexter"

[roseBudd]

15. Good points after all we are referred to as the loony left, for the OP to use loon is interesting

[BlooInBloo]

5. Hint to Capehart: They'll never like you.

[butterfly77]

11. But, he sure is trying...

he always jumps on the bandwagon.

[AtomicKitten]

7. She is using race/class-baiting as a political tool.

I will not venture to assign the tag "racist," but I would suggest that turning a blind eye to her tactics has implications.

[comrade snarky]

8. Oh I don't believe she's a racist

I think she's just trying to appeal to racists. People who may not normally vote Democratic but could be moved to the poles to prevent the black guy from taking the nomination.

Does that make it better?

[Stinky The Clown]

21. That doesn't make it better, but it makes it closer to correct.

[comrade snarky]

22. I'm sorry?

I don't know what you mean by "closer to correct" :shrug:

Do you mean that it's not as bad to blatantly play for the racist vote and by doing so exacerbate one of the worst problems facing our culture as it is to actually embody one of the worst problems facing our culture?

I guess she would get a +1 for not believing what she says but a -500 for lack of ethics and disgusting behavior.

[Stinky The Clown]

23. No ... actually comrade, I was agreeing with you

But if you wanna fight, lemme know.

[comrade snarky]

24. Oh!

Sorry about that, I completely misunderstood. It's hard to tell what people actually mean in text sometimes.

Instead of fighting lets just have a :grouphug: and a :beer:

That makes everything better and it is Friday after all.

[comrade snarky]

9. Damn... duplicate post

So that's how that happens

[butterfly77]

10. Who gives a damn what he says,,,

he's on Scarborough's side.. he has always found anything he can to point out that Obama is doing wrong and makes excuses for Hillary..

[ShortnFiery]

14. Jonathan Capehart ... well, hate to break it to you, is sort of um ... A NERD!

Yes, even within the AA community something tells me that Johnathan just does not "fit in."

Hey, no disrespect for I also have been seen as nerdy and geeky.

Nope, Capehart is not the person who I would say has their hand on the pulse of "race relations" in the USA. :crazy:

However, Randell Robinson DOES KNOW the Clinton's and their "Southern Strategy" past.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oRwZQLdhEw

Adherence to the rule of law is not something normally associated with the clintons. Moreover, racial and ethnic disrespect, intimidation, exploitation and hate have always been a fundamental Clinton tactic. ... the reflexive use the "N"-word and other racial and ethnic slurs, an essential element in the clinton lexicon. When the "first black president" and his wife ran Arkansas, the NAACP sued them for intimidating black voters at the polls.

Conversely, the clintons' refinement of the DNC drag and drop is, arguably, one of the more insidious and repugnant applications of their special brand of race-hate politics.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. She's pandering to the whites, patronizing to the Blacks.

She's playing the role of the "good master" who "helps" the slaves, while telling the white "working class" that they won't lose their place in the pecking order.

[Lerkfish]

17. brilliant! the most succinct and most apt description of what is really going on

If only I could reccommend this one post. Do you mind if I use your wording in future debates?

wonderful

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. Not at all.

[JimGinPA]

19. He's Been Performing The Hindlick Maneuver On Her For Months

Please...


:eyes:

[Jane Austin]

20. There is no racist comment from anyone, Dem, Rethuglican, whoever,

that Jonathan Capeheart won't deny is racist.

Ick.

[MirrorAshes]

25. she was just quoting an article, people! yeesh!

i'm reminded of something i saw somewhere a long time ago, maybe somebody else will remember... a standup comic i think. chappelle maybe? saying you can basically say anything you like, no matter how potentially offensive, as long as its prefaced with "i read this article..."