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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:11 AM
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Clinton's future does not lie in the White House
Hillary Rodham Clinton still has a lot to win this year, but not the presidency and not the vice presidency.

With Barack Obama having effectively secured the Democratic presidential nomination, it is hard for the Clinton camp to focus on her successes in this contest. But Clinton now possesses strengths she did not enjoy when the campaign began.

She is, more than ever before, her own person, having emerged decisively from the shadow of her husband. Indeed, she did far better when Bill Clinton played a supporting role than when he was out front, notably during the disastrous South Carolina primary. There is now a Hillary Clinton constituency in the Democratic Party distinct from the one the former president built.

Cartoonists and satirists mocked Hillary Clinton's incarnation as a fighter for blue-collar voters. Yet those who know her well think the fighting Hillary is closer to her self-image - as someone who has had to overcome many blows in life - than the inevitable nominee who wove a web of entitlement around herself and ran on experience, much of which was derivative of her husband's.

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Yet these achievements have come at a high cost for Clinton, and a $20 million debt may be the least of her troubles. To consolidate her gains while repairing the damage to her standing from a bitter contest, she will have to abandon efforts to block Obama's nomination. She can keep fighting, or she can become a powerful figure in the Democratic Party. She cannot do both.

more at link; I thought the article was spot on

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/12/EDUA10KV8K.DTL
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:12 AM
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1. someone posted this already I think.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:13 AM
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2. all this year Hillary has battled the Republicans and the whore media
but the worst assaults and the most personal attacks have come from her fellow Democrats.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:17 AM
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3. It does seem that both democratic candidates are being far more
bashed by democrats....
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:21 AM
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4. I wonder why?
"I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002." -Hillary Clinton

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“I think that since we now know Sen. (John) McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that. And I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold, I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy" - Hillary Clinton

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I think in addition to the questions about Reverend Wright and what he said and when he said it, and for whatever reason he might have said these things, there were so many different variations on the explanations that we heard.

And it is something that I think deserves further exploration because clearly, what we've got to figure out is how we're going to bring people together in a way that overcomes the anger, overcomes the divisiveness and whatever bitterness there may be out there. You know?

It is clear that, as leaders, we have a choice who we associate with and who we apparently give some kind of seal of approval to. And I think that it wasn't only the specific remarks but some of the relationships with Reverend Farrakhan, with giving the church bulletin over to the leader of Hamas, to put a message in.

You know, these are problems. And they raise questions in people's minds. And, so, this is a legitimate area, as everything is, when we run for office, for people to be exploring and trying to find answers. -Hillary Clinton

etc...


What could it possibly be that might be inspiring democrats to be... irked... with Hillary? Let us ponder that great and mysterious question.

(Hamas? Your candidate is going to play guilt by 6 degrees of seperation between the frontrunning democratic candidate for president and HAMAS... on a nationally televised debate... and you're in here complaining about her not being treated nicely?)
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:29 AM
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5. "Republicans and the Whore Media " Have Been Her Biggest Cheerleaders...
To the point it's been sickening. And I thought this article was mostly positive and definately fair.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:33 AM
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6. I'm sure she'll enjoy the quiet comfort of your loving touch.
Won't be long now, Ben.


Bittersweet.



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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:00 AM
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8. It won't be long.
barneypooper
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:06 AM
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11. Tell your mom she can have that thing back, M'kay?
Edited on Tue May-13-08 10:32 AM by cliffordu
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:28 AM
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14. Mr. Garrison is that you? M'kay?
:rofl:

barneypooper
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:47 AM
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15. Wrong. She has changed sides and gone over to the whore media
She has done nothing for months but repeat REPUKE talking points.
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sfaprog Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 04:34 AM
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16. The worst assaults and the most personal attacks have come from her. Period.
Perhaps the reason she was attacked more as a candidate than Obama is because of her own divisive statements
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:37 AM
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7. K & R
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:04 AM
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9. She's now in a strong position to take her life in a new direction.
I'm thinking figure skating or possibly opera.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:07 AM
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10. LOL
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:13 AM
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12. A well reasoned and thoughtful piece
Accurate and fair too.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:31 AM
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13. "Your future lies along another path, young Jedi warrior..."
Edited on Tue May-13-08 10:32 AM by Tesha


A darker path...
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