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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:44 PM
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Operation Chaos distorted Hillary's vote totals - they won't vote for her in the GE
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:47 PM
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1. Precisely!
And, add that to the fact that primary results never equal GE results and all the Clinton meme threads circulating this evening are moot.

Thank you for pointing out this very important truth.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:04 PM
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2. Of course primary results don't equal GE results -- red state Dem primaries are meaningless
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:06 PM
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3. Yep, that's why the results in KY's primary won't mean anything.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:10 PM
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4. Obama's Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, Nebraska, N. Dakota, Utah and Va. last went Dem for LBJ.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:10 PM
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5. Yep. That's why we judge the nominee by pledged delegates won, not electoral votes.
Edited on Mon May-19-08 11:11 PM by anonymous171
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:12 PM
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8. We don't 'judge the nominee,' all delegates select a nominee at the convention
Edited on Mon May-19-08 11:12 PM by splat
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:13 PM
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10. Correct. And the candidate with the most votes wins.
So popular vote is meaningless, same with electoral votes. It's the voice of the people through their pledged delegates.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:15 PM
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11. Well, actually, there's a failsafe for the candidates who nosedive, post-McGovern
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:16 PM
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13. And thank GOD for that!
Denver!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:17 PM
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14. Worked so well for Kennedy, didn't it?
And so poorly for the party.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:20 PM
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16. Wow! The parallels are stunning!
Except that they ain't.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:23 PM
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18. The pledged delegates didn't break their pledges and SDs didn't overturn them
But he wouldn't be denied his nomination, and so it had to be wrest from his fat fingers. Same is going to happen to Hillary. She will be politically stained, just as Kennedy was.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:25 PM
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20. Umm....Let's not go there. Seriously.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:11 PM
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6. And WY, KS, NE, ID are in the MF'n BAG!!!
W00t!!!!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:11 PM
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7. No worries. It is the delegate count that determines the winner.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:13 PM
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9. Thank GOD the bulk of Obama's delegates came from Democratic States!!!
W00t!!!

Oh Wait...

They didn't?

Damn. That sucks.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:17 PM
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15. What is this democratic state that you speak of?
I'm having less and less tolerance for idiocy?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:21 PM
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17. *Hint* It isn't Utah!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:25 PM
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19. It's the entire country. Democrats everywhere, not just blue states, get to weigh in on the process.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:26 PM
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22. And where did Obama collect his delegates?
AL, MS, GA, SC, NC, UT, ND, ID, KS, NE, AK.

HUGE Democratic States!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:27 PM
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25. What did I just say. Read it again. The democrats in every state get to weigh in.
One state is not more important than any other.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:29 PM
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26. If that were true, there would be a homogeneous selection process
But there isn't.

ID ROCKS YO!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:30 PM
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27. I note you seem to have forgotten WI, MN, IA, VA, HI, MD, DE, VT, CO, ME, CT, WA, NV, MO, and DC.
Why might that be?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:32 PM
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28. LOL...
Because LOL!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:33 PM
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29. I'd laugh too.
Edited on Mon May-19-08 11:34 PM by Occam Bandage
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:34 PM
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31. LOL CT, DE? DC? LOL.
Wow, just WOW.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:35 PM
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32. Do those people not count again? It's so hard to remember.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:37 PM
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33. Nah...They matter.
Everyone matters.

But the Electoral Map is what it is.

And Utah, North Dakota, Alaska et al....

Don't seem to help our goal.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:40 PM
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34. And MO, VA, CO, WI, MN, IA, NV aren't useful?
Edited on Mon May-19-08 11:41 PM by Occam Bandage
Keep in mind Obama wins MI more consistently than Hillary does, and that he stands a very real chance of winning ND. Hell, he puts TX, NC, and NE in play too.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:26 PM
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23. Hint: We're not electing a President of the Blue States of America.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:27 PM
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24. Nope!
Utah is the tiebreaker on this!
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:15 PM
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12. Who is Hillary?
Is she that former presidential candidate? Bless her heart.

Remember how competitive of a race it was?
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bluebellbaby Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:26 PM
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21. How would you know who voted for whom and the so called "operation chaos"
crap is just that crap...do you people really give Limbaugh so much power? Please...and if your claim can't be proven, then you shouldn't spew it here...unless you were part of the "operation chaos"...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:34 PM
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30. You're the one who's spewin' shit ..why don't you
take your own damn advice.
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bluebellbaby Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 11:40 PM
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35. You have absolutely no verifiable proof that "operation chaos" did anything
this is just another excuse to attack Hillary...veiled in supposition...

If you people actually think Rush Limbaugh has power...then so does the "tooth fairy"...and posts such as this should be labeled under "fairy tales"...we've allowed ourselves to be divided by the MSM...
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