IS IT LEGAL for someone to advocate the murder of a US Senator on National Television?

[Triana]

Because THAT'S WHAT JUST HAPPENED.

:mad:

[ossman]

1. Im sure all the crazy white supremecists took their meds today, so nobody will take it the challenge

[Triana]

2. That wasn't the queston though. Is it legal to do this? n/t

[Tellurian]

27. Where are the details and a link?

[POAS]

52. Here is the YouTube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

[yardwork]

69. Oh my God. She said "...somebody knock off Osama, I mean Obama, well, both, if we could."

That person just said that on Fox News. She just said that. "Osama, I mean Obama, well, both if we could.

Edited to add emphasis.

[RiverStone]

145. I never watch faux, who is that idiot and what was she doing...

Aside from advocating knocking off our nominee.

[newmajority]

3. Advocating murder of anyone is illegal, as far as I know.

But advocating the murder of a presidential candidate should certainly be worthy of an official investigation, at the very least.

[Deja Q]

7. Agreed.

It's probably much ado about nothing, but would anyone take that chance?

[CTLawGuy]

4. what happened?

NT

[AllentownJake]

5. Some commentator on Fox

made a joke about bumping off Obama. It's on the main page.

[Tellurian]

32. Where? have a link?

[AllentownJake]

37. Here you go

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x137586

[samsingh]

47. fox is committing treason.

[AllentownJake]

58. They've been doing that

for a long time before this. I'm sure they'll be doing it for a long time after.

[samsingh]

they should be called on it.

[samsingh]

164. they should be called on it.

[Deja Q]

6. Of course not. Just like how Bill said to a jury he didn't have sex with that woman.

Since it was his cigar that did it, how the cigar remains free to wander around unfettered to this day is beyond my comprehension...

[marions ghost]

8. VIDEO--you guys

gotta SEE this....Liz Trotter of Fox:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-feldman/fox-pundit-wishes-for-oba_b_103500.html

:thumbsdown::mad:

:nuke:

Somebody explain this--is this just another senior moment? Something to be overlooked!?! Like Mike Huckabee's "joke" at the NRA???

Sorry but I'm outraged all over again (and my blood pressure had just returned to normal...)

[Norwood]

12. Don't worry I'm sure the secret service is already in the process of investigating her

:sarcasm:

Really though how do they get away with this kinda crap? She knows exactly what she said.

[Athletic Grrl]

21. Agreed.

She TOTALLY meant to "slip" Osama in there to remind the wingnuts of their "Obama is a Muslim Terrorist" meme.

I hope someone with half a brain at Faux has "Trotted" Liz's boucle-clad ass out the front door.

[yardwork]

77. But then she said, "Well, both if we could." She actually wished for Obama's assassination!

It was bad enough to say Osama, then Obama. But then she said BOTH IF WE COULD!

I just filed an FCC complaint. Next I'm talking to the Secret Service. This is appalling.

[Athletic Grrl]

116. I agree with all that.

I figured that my condemnation of this beeyotch's remarks was assumed.

A little poking around at the usual freep suspect sites yields nary a peep abou this. They're still all outraged over Rachael Ray and her scarf (and Dunkin Honuts actually caved to their pressure).

[marions ghost]

38. what bothers me...

is this woman's attitude that this is a perfectly OK thing to joke about ANYWHERE. That the climate of acceptance in this culture for violence --esp violence to those who are "other" --is just so taken for granted. Her ass needs to be fried.

Yes I understand they will be looking at it from a security standpoint and investigating her. But he's under the max as it is I'm sure. I'm sure she's a proper Rethug dowager with lots of friendies in high places, too.

I mean, this is what you'd expect to hear at the local KKK headquarters down in Podunkeyville.

[AllentownJake]

41. She won't be back on TV

for a long time. Fox will also be dealing with the FCC.

[Yael]

44. Does the FCC even get involved in this kind of thing?

[AllentownJake]

55. Was it cable or broadcast TV

if it was Broadcast TV yes.

[Yael]

68. Faux is on cable.

[Diane R]

61. Probably not, if it's a threat gainst a Democrat.

[MadMaddie]

84. You would think....especially after they went after Janet Jackson

and the Network for nipple gate....this is getting serious....these people are inciting violence...

You can't yell fire in a movie theatre as a joke..and logic would say you can't joke about the Assasination of a US Senator...it's time for us to ALL file complaints with the FCC, the Secret Service and the DOJ.

[Yael]

90. But this is a cable network

[AllentownJake]

93. Yeah

I don't know what their jurisdiction is for Cable.

[Yael]

94. I think the FBI and Secret Service are the ones.

[Yael]

43. Actually, they are.

They don't find it as funny as other people may.

Several of us reported it today, complaining about the dog whistle and they stated that they were in process of investigation.

I spoke with someone at the main DC office.

So stick your :sarcasm:

This is no laughing matter. If nothing else, try to think of his girls.

[Athletic Grrl]

57. That's good news to hear.

Thanks for the report.

[AllentownJake]

97. Anyone who makes that kind of joke

and is reported tends to get a visit.

She's going to have a very very unpleasant conversation with some people who won't be joking.

[Name removed]

9. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Triana]

13. It IS True. Would you like to EXPLAIN what this woman said in this video? C'mon let's hear it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

INTERPRET it another way if you can. Spin away. C'mon - let's SEE YOUR explanation of WHAT SHE SAID.

[K Gardner]

15. Oh goody !! Another Fresh off the Boat with the LIAR LIAR meme.

[Yael]

40. And it didn't even last 30 minutes.

Go Mods!!!

[Bright Eyes]

16. Standing up for Fox News, are we?

You want Free Republic, not DU.

[greguganus]

17. Enjoy your short stay . n/t

[Bright Eyes]

18. ....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=221154

[greguganus]

31. Thank you! You just made my evening. n/t

[Auntie Bush]

26. Welcome Softly to this rat hole!

Good to nave someone with some sense of decency here in the padded room.

[greguganus]

34. I hope you were able to attend the funeral. n/t

[yardwork]

71. Did you watch the video? Are you actually defending it?

The commentator said, and I quote: "...suggesting that somebody knock off Osama, I mean Obama, well, both really." Then she laughed and laughed and the other guy laughed too.

ARE YOU DEFENDING THIS?

[JTFrog]

127. You should now follow him to his other padded room. You belong together. n/t

[mrreowwr_kittty]

153. You WOULD defend it.

You would.

Shame.

:puke:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

158. Condoning what this troll said is vile. You might want to reevaluate.

[spanone]

64. the premise is true and the question is not loaded

[madrchsod]

76. bye bye......

[Poll_Blind]

10. ** Contact information for the Secret Service & FCC **

SS - General Contact Information

SS - To find your local field office

FCC - File an FCC complaint (if you have problems with that link use this one)
NOTE: Those filling out FCC complaint, note time (FOX video indicates 8:58 PT) (thanks Blonndee)

You must include the URL on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

Or, if you're exceptionally industrious, save a copy just in case, like the "Bramble Video", it mysteriously disappears.

  That is something you don't say on television. I don't care where else you ain't allowed to say it, but you sure as hell don't say it on television. Please be sure not to forget to alert the FCC- allowing speech which promotes the killing of a presidential candidate is a crime.

  Remember to mention that FOX could have bleeped this out, censored it, but chose not to.

PB

[marions ghost]

22. about bleeping it

the way she said it--almost looks like they didn't have time?

How's that work anyway?

Even more damaging if they COULD have censored it...

[Poll_Blind]

24. They can always censor it. What you see is never real-time. There's...

..anything from a 7-30-second delay on all live programs. It's never "live" with the exceptions of sporting events and a few other things. Even with sporting events,though, I've heard of having a delay.

PB

[marions ghost]

46. thanks

for explaining that...so is there a "bleeper" who watches and waits & has excellent reflexes, or is it somehow triggered by certain words automatically? (In which case the actual words used by her wouldn't activate bleep?) I'm really not too with it on TV technology.

So was it POSSIBLE to bleep? In other words can the network claim their bleeper didn't work?

[Poll_Blind]

51. There's a human censor from the network itself who monitors the stream for...

...any objectionable content. They are, of course, trained in the rules of the FCC and what they consider acceptable and unacceptable.

PB

[marions ghost]

56. hmmmmm

maybe they'll try to argue the bleeper was too stunned by it, or didn't understand it...

--or was laughing too hard x(

thanks for the info.
Obviously I think this has legal ramifications...

Everybody involved should be censured. We can't let this go unchallenged...

[SeattleGirl]

28. Just filed a complaint. n/t

[greguganus]

54. I just filed my complaint also. I guess if Hillary can get away with it, Fox thinks they can. n/t

[msallied]

33. As much as I generally hate the FCC, I will consider them an asset on this.

[Poll_Blind]

35. I cannot wait to see the FCC under Obama. So many things are going...

...to change for the better.

PB

[Miss Chybil]

60. FCC does not control cable, only the networks. nt

[Yael]

49. Fox is on cable

I don't think the FCC governs that.

[vincenzoesq]

62. Thank you for the links.

I just filed my complaint.

[gristy]

65. I called my local Secret Service number and pressed 0 to get a "duty desk"

I expressed my concern. He was well aware of what had happened. He would not say, but likely there is an investigation ongoing. The last thing I said was "I hope you guys have got things under control", and he said "so do we".

That's an ok answer, but somehow it doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence...

[Yael]

70. Thats not very confidence inspiring.

:scared:

[vincenzoesq]

162. Fox corporate sponsors

I wrote to three of the corporate sponsors listed here. http://www.debone.com/boycottFoxNewsSponsors.html
I got a real reply from Best Buy, apologizing for the offensive program and promising to forward to the appropriate people.
Several of the other contact sites (including Comcast) were jammed up--hopefully on overload with complaints about Liz Trotta. I didn't threaten to boycott, just asked that they withdraw sponsorship until Liz is fired, and included the link to the video.
I'll try more this evening.

[msallied]

11. Christ... I can't get audio on this computer!

Can someone give me a summary of what she said? Thanks so much in advance!!

[Triana]

14. HERE is the quote:

..."and now we have what ... uh...some are reading as a suggestion that somebody knock off Osama ...uh..um..Obama ....well both if we could "...

[msallied]

20. I think I just threw up in my mouth.

:puke:

[Genevieve]

23. No, here's the FULL quote: (It's worse).

..."and now we have what ... uh...some are reading as a suggestion that somebody knock off Osama ...uh..um..Obama ....well both if we could "... ahem, talk about how I really feel! Ha ha"....

[Auntie Bush]

19. Don't be such an ASS!

This is our life...not a video game or 20 questions.

[Yael]

53. Did you watch the video?

Hint: this isn't about Hillary

[Auntie Bush]

66. I'll watch at your request.

[Yael]

67. I would be interested in your reaction

[Auntie Bush]

79. Would you mind posting that video site again?

[yardwork]

82. This is the fourth or fifth time it's posted in this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

[Auntie Bush]

95. Sorry, I read it in bits and pieces as I prepared and ate dinner and cleaned

up and then had to IRON MY HUSBANDS SHIRTS!

OK. Thanks For the site but not the condescending irritable remark.

I just watched! Having missed most of this thread...what does that have to do with Hillary and why she is getting sh**? She's not responsible for that woman's gaffes? She admittedly has enough of her own to worry about.

Are you insinuating no one ever thought of that scenario before? Is this all Hillary's idea? Is she the one who started people thinking along these lines? Seems to me she has had enough threats and so has Obama to be very well aware of the situation. Maybe that's why it came out. She lives with it daily...like for the past 17 years starting with Bill's bid for the Presidency. It's second nature to her....and it will soon be Obama's. It's a shame we have such hateful people in America to worry about. Keep it up folks and you'll get someone fired up enough to do the dirty deed to either one of them. I'd worry more about Hillary as she is the one receiving such hatred. I've never heard any hatred toward Obama.

If you really want to know who started all the hoopla and talk...It's the Obama supporters and his media scoundrels who made it into a public discussion just looking for something else to drive Hillary out of the race. You guys don't even realize what you are doing. YOU'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT ROVE WANTS US TO DO...DIVIDE THE PARTY! YOU'RE SUCCEEDING! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

[yardwork]

98. What the fuck are you talking about?

[Auntie Bush]

108. I know what I'm talking about...but I see you don't.

Maybe we just see things differently or I need to read the OP and all the answers from beginning to end. But, not tonight. I withdraw from this nonsense of missed communication. :bye:

[yardwork]

109. I can't make heads or tails of your posts

except that you're blaming me for being upset that a woman called for Senator Obama's assassination on television tonight. I think you must be the only person on DU tonight who isn't outraged about this. Instead, you're mad at me!

Unbelievable.

[libnnc]

114. Auntie seems to be suffering from

"Head up ass" syndrome.

[yardwork]

115. ...

:spray:

[Name removed]

128. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[yardwork]

Read her post #124 in this thread. She laughed out loud at Liz Trotta's comments.

[Auntie Bush]

121. Sounds like are you are very self centered person. Me, me, me.

Maybe you have a wax buildup in your ears? You didn't hear me say I was outraged? Maybe because I answered the wrong post. :shrug: It's hard with busybodies jumping in and answering someone else's question and asking questions and demanding answers to your questions in my conversation with Yael. I'm really not saying you shouldn't comment but give me a break...It's tough trying to write and keep track of all this stuff while watching the Mars landing and pictures. Congratulations to US! :bounce:

[Swamp Rat]

122. Do you realize this thread is about a women on FOX News, Liz Trotta, not Hillary Clinton?

It seems you may be confused. The OP is talking about a FOX News commentator who joked about "kocking off" Obama along with Osama, after she confused their names.


Video Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

[yardwork]

125. I think it's hopeless. Other have tried, and failed, to penetrate the wall of ignorance.

[Auntie Bush]

132. I know!

:shrug: Did I not express my outrage and contempt? I'm too tired to go back and read all the comments and explain myself again. Did too much gardening in the hot sun today. Just know I think that was a dumb, stupid, disgusting, sick and dangerous comment! Is that better? I'm not being sarcastic...I mean it and think the woman is a fool and doesn't belong on TV. She is where she belongs...on FAUX News.

[Swamp Rat]

133. Good enough for me.

:D Get some rest. :hi:

[Auntie Bush]

138. Thanks. I will.

:boring: Just as soon as I clear up a few misunderstands around here. :bye:

[yardwork]

134. In another post you said that you laughed out loud at Liz Trotta's comments.

And your insults to at least a half dozen other posters are all over this thread.

[Auntie Bush]

139. Sorry ... I didn't. I laughed at my own joke or smart alic answer. I really did laugh out loud.

Ya got me all wrong! I'm trying to answer questions and I haven't read the whole sequence of questions and answers. If you are having trouble understanding I suggest you go read it yourself. Sorry if I don't come up to your expectations expressing anger. I'm normally a happy person.

[Auntie Bush]

147. Bullshit!

I never said such a thing! You people just don't know how to read and interpret was was read. Did you pass first grade? Now that was an insult...case you didn't get it. Funny how I'm such an evil person for insulting people but it's also perfectly alright for you all to insult and deliberately misunderstand me and sling insults. You're a bunch of misogynist bullies! :grr: Now I know how Hillary feels. Not so good! Now just go away...go to bed...it's past your bedtime. You'll feel better in the morning and maybe your head will be screwed on straight...for once. Now listen to Mommy all you bad little boys. Remember to wash your mouth out with soap before you scrub your teeth and kiss Mommy goodnight.

[Mimosa]

151. 'bad little boys'? R U nuts? I'm a 50 year old woman....

....and I am sickened about what is happening to this country. I'd be sickened -and very angry- if anybody on TV news or popular media was calling for the elimination of any presidential candidate. This country already fell victim to a coup in the 1960s.

Auntie Bush ought to post only on topics with very large letters.

[yardwork]

156. You are a sad, strange little person.

By the way, I'm a 48 year old woman.

[Yael]

119. AB -- no one is calling out HRC on this.

The "she" references you are seeing are all to this Fox News woman.

People are livid and rightfully so. At Fox.

They could have bleeped it (as they tape on time delay). They chose to go live with it.

Sick.

[Alexander]

148. This has nothing to do with Hillary. Quit playing the victim card...

And get your head out of your ass.

This was a threat to a presidential candidate.

It has nothing to do with Hillary or your precious hurt feelings.

[Yael]

89. I see its posted in response.

No matter who your candidate is, this should set you off the edge. I would worry if it didn't.

[yardwork]

100. I couldn't make heads or tails of it. It's blaming me for dividing the party

...and something about ironing her husband's shirts...and it wants to know why we're mad at Hillary for somebody else's gaffe....gaffe?....

[Auntie Bush]

101. YES, it does worry me!

All the sh** happening today worries me and what might happen tomorrow.

It's a cruel hostile world we live in... you and I!

Lol At least I spelled it right...just the wrong word. Guess it's bed time or to much sun gardening today! Lucky I didn't have heat stroke...or maybe I did! :scare:

[yardwork]

104. You're living in a cruel hostel? I thought they were supposed to be nice.

I'd always heard that hostels were friendly. Kind of no-frills, maybe, but not cruel. I'd check out if I were you.

[libnnc]

105. Is she talking about the creepy movie?

:crazy:

[yardwork]

107. Oh - maybe that was it. I'm not up on creepy movies.

Is there one about a cruel hostel?

[libnnc]

110. oh a whole bloody series...

seriesly :P

[yardwork]

112. Well, it figures that somebody who thinks it's just fine to call for Obama's assassination

would be familiar with movies like that.

[Yael]

117. AB, the thought that this could come off her tongue so effortlessly

and with a giggle.

I just don't know anymore. People freak me out at times.

Who knows who was listening to that and thinks that they can be a "hero" or "go out in a blaze of glory"?

Obama has a bright future ahead of him, no matter the outcome of this election -- but he has 2 small daughters. This kind of thing just isn't right.

I am furious beyond words at this cunt. Yes -- cunt. If she is a "world class journalist", the "NY chief of the Washington Times", a "Fox news analyst" and 71 years old (indicating a life of experience) and she either didn't know better or she thought this was in any way appropriate, than the c-word is just not strong enough for her.

[Auntie Bush]

142. Wow! That's anger! No one ever used that word to me in my presence.

I'm offended! You disappoint me! But I now see your anger. I wasn't into this thread...was getting dinner...all I know is you and yardstick or whatever his name is wanted me to quick look at that video. I didn't read the rest of the posts and know what you were looking for. Obviously I missed it. I thought you were insinuating Hillary was responsible for that womans comment. I was trying to say it wasn't Hillary's fault for people saying these stupid dangerous comments. If it's out there and people are talking...it's Obama supporters who are causing this to become a media sensation. If no one had reacted with such outrage to what Hillary said this whole topic would have long been forgotten or not even noticed. So looks like I missed the point... sorry. Everyone approaches a thing from a different angle. Now I'm on target! I answered so many people you will have to go read the whole thread to understand. What a nightmare this thread has been. Good luck and goodnight as KO would say. :hi:

[Auntie Bush]

96. Sorry Yeal. See post #95 for my reaction to the video.

[Yael]

120. Hey sis -- just saw it.

The references you are seeing to "she" and "her" aren't to Hillary, they are to this unimaginable ignorant woman.

The one who went past "it could happen" and careened straight into "wouldn't that be a kick!?!? w00t!!".

Sickening.

[Auntie Bush]

124. Yes, it was definitely sickening and scary.

She ought to be shot! Laughing my ass off out loud. Couldn't resist the temptation. Hubby wanted to know what was so funny. Didn't tell him...he's be outraged! Tell me you received this and I'll edit it before I get bounced. Nice to have a laugh on this maddening site.
I needed that.

[yardwork]

126. You laughed about it?!

Are you serious? You watched the video of Liz Trotta calling for Senator Obama's assassination and you laughed?

[Auntie Bush]

136. Can't you read or understand English?

Are you deliberately trying to misunderstand?

I said that woman should be shot for saying that someone else should be shot. That was the joke. That was what I was laughing about...my comment...not that stupid woman! Do you have no sense of humor? Guess not!

[gristy]

140. You laugh out loud at your own "joke" about someone who should be shot.

Do I have that right?

You must kill at dinner parties.

[yardwork]

141. ...

:rofl:

[Auntie Bush]

143. Yup, I'm a killer!

Beware and be afraid! :scared: I particularly like to take out idiots who have a poor sense of humor or rather a void of all humor.

What? You never giggled at your own joke? Do you ever tell any?

Can't you see the irony in my comment? I guess that's what makes you and I different people and admire different people...we're different. You be angry and hysterical! Me be happy and optimistic! Goodnight for the last time.

[Yael]

150. AB -- you were amused by that:?

Seriously?

I am disappointed. I thought better of you.

:(

[Crunchy Frog]

85. Auntie, you can't possibly be defending this. Please watch the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

[yardwork]

103. She appears to be defending it, and more to the point, blaming me and others

for dividing the party.

I guess we're just supposed to shut up and let this go by without a comment, too. Because, you know, complaining about somebody advocating for the death of a U.S. senator is, I dunno, dividing the party or something.

I wonder how Auntie would feel if she heard the earlier part of the video, where Liz Trotta ripped Hillary up and down for a while before moving on to hoping for Obama's assassination. I suspect that Auntie would become all outraged all of a sudden.

But if it's just advocating for the death of Osama, I mean Obama, I guess that's a-ok, right?

[Swamp Rat]

123. I think AB thinks we are talking about Hillary, not Liz Trotta.

:shrug:

[yardwork]

130. She said in another post that she's watched the video.

Read her post #124. She says she laughed out loud when she saw Liz Trotta's comments. She said that she needed a good laugh.

[Auntie Bush]

144. Who the hell said it was OK. Get a life!

[yardwork]

157. You said you laughed out loud.

Here is your exact post from up above:

She ought to be shot! Laughing my ass off out loud. Couldn't resist the temptation. Hubby wanted to know what was so funny. Didn't tell him...he's be outraged! Tell me you received this and I'll edit it before I get bounced. Nice to have a laugh on this maddening site.
I needed that.

[nichomachus]

25. It used to be before the fascist coup of 2000 -- now

Republicans and other traitors can do it at will.

[cali]

29. not even fucking close. Your post is just moronic. nt nt. nt

[msallied]

30. Did you see the video she posted? Read the post above mine. This isn't about Hillary.

This is about a Fox News person. How is it moronic to say that? Did you read/hear what that person just said??

[Poll_Blind]

36. You jump to conclusions too easily. READ the post, view the link. n/t

PB

[ProSense]

39. Stop jumping on people if you don't have all the facts. At least ask. Here's the video:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/25/15389/8576/115/522617">Fox News Jokes About Killing Obama

From the folks Hillary's camp calls the most fair and balanced network.

[blonndee]

45. Cali, the OP is talking about Liz Trotta's disgusting comment

on Fox this morning.

[BlooInBloo]

50. I assume you haven't seen the video.

[yardwork]

87. Edit your post.

[hendo]

42. yes, highly n/t

[emilyg]

48. What drama!

edit: Didn't realize you were talking about Liz. Sorry.

[Miss Chybil]

59. Pure evil.

Fox News has been very bad for our country.

[Bensthename]

63. It is just another day for Hillary/Rush operation chaos..

Just keep them on mental ignore like Obama and we will be alright.

[amelia]

72. Is it legal for someone to write such a stupid OP? Are you serious?

[gristy]

74. You didn't watch the video.

This is not hyperbole. This is not reading between the lines. This is not about having to interpret Liz Trotta's meaning. She advocated exactly what the OP is saying she did.

[Barrymores Ghost]

81. Pull your head out of your ass and watch the video before you say...

...something so inanely fucking stupid.

DU thanks you for your cooperation.

[MonkeyFunk]

106. Why isn't the link in the OP?

It's not "inanely fucking stupid" to not read your mind. What's "inanely fucking stupid" is expecting people to be able to do so.

[amelia]

163. What video and what link to what video? No details in OP so I must assume she means Clinton

and I did watch that video and that is why I stand by my original comment, so pull your head out of your ass before you say something so inanely *&&*&^ stupid. Who are you to thank me on behalf of DU for my cooperation? The Owner of DU?

[yardwork]

83. Watch the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

[JTFrog]

129. No but it should be illegal for such a stupid reply. Series!11!!! n/t

[muryan]

73. Its riled up the freepers

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2021212/posts?q=1&;page=51

To: the invisib1e hand

I’m still waiting/hoping on that stray bullet to punch through Obama’s head...

52 posted on Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:40:24 PM by HungryRahul ( believe this sh*T)




Tried calling my local secret service office but it just a constant busy signal :\

[madrchsod]

75. no it is not....very serious offense

they will be "interviewed" by the proper authorities.

[Mimosa]

152. Amazing how un-American Free Republic is...

...I hadn't seen that moronic site in years. How many morons post there?

Free speech doesn't include incendiary treats towards the lives of candidates for public office.

[madrchsod]

78. Liz Trotta - Wikipedia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Trotta
Liz Trotta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

that did`t take long!

[yardwork]

80. Former New York bureau chief for the Washington Times.

She needs to be put in jail tonight.

[madrchsod]

88. tomorrow will not be a good day for her

and that thing sitting next to her.....fox news is not going to be happy

[libnnc]

92. Monday, Monday...

too bad, for her.

:nuke:

[Swamp Rat]

131. I thought you were going to post Mamas & the Papas lyrics.

:D

Btw, I love French and Saunders, as well as The Young Ones, Bottom, Comic Strip Presents, Absolutely Fabulous, Let Them Eat Cake, et al. :D

I'm going to watch Jeeves and Wooster in a few minutes (Fry and Laurie). :)

[libnnc]

137. I would have posted the lyrics...but I'm too lazy

I may watch some F&S on the youtubes in a while or some Little Britain. I'm pissed that I missed the Monty Python marathon on BBC America this weekend.

:D

[graywarrior]

102. Too bad Monday is a holiday

Let's hope this steamrolls over to a nuclear Tuesday for her.

[yardwork]

86. kick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

[ruby slippers]

91. have you seen the Youtube vidoes out about Obama? They are sick.

[arundhatiroyfan]

99. Already openly advocating murder.

And they (Fox News and Republicans) are just getting started. Obama's security staff should be extended.

[fortyfeetunder]

111. I am glad I did not see TV this morning

This story has more legs than it ought to, and I hope the SS takes it seriously now....

[tledford]

113. No, but it was on television -- the corporate news...

...--- and it's advocating the murder of a BLACK Presidential candidate. So it's okay. :eyes:

[Life Long Dem]

118. Hillary the "I will do anything to win" candidate...

Go ahead and contribute your support to her and be as guilty as she is to her asinine comment. Because in my eyes your as guilty as she is.

[Rhythm]

155. Did you read ANYTHING in this thread before posting, or was this just a knee-jerk thing?

The 'she' in the OP is Liz Trotta (ex WashTimes 'reporter'), as a guest commentator on Faux News... NOT HILLARY.
As has been repeated ad nauseum in this thread, this had NOTHING to do with Clinton.

Here's a link to the video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0

[thewiseguy]

135. Has the secret service done anything about this?

[Triana]

149. Who knows? They're not likely to talk if they do...what about FBI?

I wonder if the FBI would cover such a threat / incitement by a "newscaster" "news" commentator type person?


FBI TIPline:

https://tips.fbi.gov/

[NotThisTime]

160. I don't know, but the secret service had snipers on the roof's around yesterday's commencement

That is a bit unusual, and certainly the first that I've heard of them doing that this primary season.

[galledgoblin]

146. disgusting

*gigglegiggle*
:puke:

[1776Forever]

154. Juan Cole Excellent Commentary - He says Murdoch ought to apologies for this remark!

http://www.juancole.com/2008/05/lotta-take-obama-out.html

Monday, May 26, 2008
Lotta: Take Obama Out

(snip)

Is this what Rupert Murdoch's petty, spiteful, poisonous media have brought us to in this country, jokes about killing our presidential candidates and pairing their names with those of mass murderers? Under the rules of the Federal Communications Commission as they existed before the Supreme Court gutted the Fairness Doctrine in 1987, Fox would have been hugely fined or closed as a thinly disguised Republican Party House organ. (As for the argument that there are lots of news points of view to choose from now, I'm still waiting for the Socialist Party to have its cable station available in almost all US markets.)

Some are petitioning for Trotta to be banned from Fox, but it seems to me what is actually appropriate is an apology, from Rupert Murdoch himself, for all the false and vicious things he has purveyed to the American people through his phony bought and paid for "journalism." And if he won't apologize and reform, maybe it is time for a consumer boycott of Fox's major advertisers. In our corrupt corporate media system, Shawn's interview of Lotta was actually rented out to advertisers; so who paid for that piece of excrement to be on the air? Should we be buying that product?

If we analyze Trotta's brief, murderous faux pas, the language issues come to the fore.

Americans need to be told that Usamah Bin Laden does not own the name Usamah, and there are lots of wonderful people named Usamah. It is just a classical Arabic word for "lion." It is given by Christian as well as Muslim families, and some of the physicians who heal us of serious maladies are named Usamah. Moreover, there is no "o" in Arabic. It is not Osama but Usamah. It does not rhyme with Obama and is not related in any way to it. Obama is an African (presumably Dholua or other West Nilotic) word, not a Semitic one.

Then can we ban this euphemism, "take out"? In its tertiary sense, according to Merriam Webster,, it means to "eliminate, kill, destroy." If that is what it means, then say it, damn it.

Bush used to always talk about "taking out" Saddam. Well, we now know that what he meant was "to have him lynched by the fanatical Shiite Mahdi Army." A euphemism like "take out" seems less innocuous, perhaps, than just "kill." But killing should not be made to seem innocuous. People should say what they mean. If you want to kill someone, be brave enough to admit it.

Journalists Shawn and Trotta have just brought the US presidential campaign to a new low of innuendo, viciousness, cavalier disregard for the sanctity of life, and peculiar lack of self-reflection. But in most ways, they are just continuing the Fox and Murdoch house traditions.

.............

This was left by someone on YouTube comment:

IRC
LIZ A TROTTA (that's woman on the video)
[phone]
340 E. 66th St, New York, NY 10065
Born March 1937 (age 71)

[yardwork]

159. Trotta didn't say "take out" - she said "bump off."

Minor quibble. Liz Trotta said that she hopes that somebody will bump off both Osama and Obama. Her meaning is crystal clear.

I didn't know that the correct spelling is Usamah and it means "lion." Usamah comes from a very wealthy and powerful Saudi Arabian family that has very close ties to the Bush family.

[gregjones]

161. You're so right Triana

Black Americans, and many of all races are EXTREMELY disturbed by Hillary's insinuation of a possible assassination of Barack Obama. To imply that her reason for staying in the race is because anything can happen, then nonchalantly say that even Robert Kennedy was assassinated in June, meaning therefore she should stay in, is not only pitifully diobolical but incredibly dangerous.

As I read some of the comments, I sense that some do not understand the true impact of her deadly insinuation. Keep in mind, when it was first announced that Obama was running for President, the initial concern in Black America was his safety. "Would some nut sniper him"? Obama had to hire secret service security right out of the gate.....why? Because of the true possibilty of some nut doing harm to him or his family.

Also, during the last 50 years, the people who have been assassinated have ALL been leaders who were working toward equality for ALL. John F., Robert and of course Dr. King. So just the WORD assassination brings to us not only an extreme fear but is a reminder of the incredibly sad loss to America, particularly Blacks, at the hands of the sick and wicked. For Hillary Clinton, a so-called leader, to insinuate, for WHATEVER reason assassination....is beyond disgusting. It subliminally sparks the hatred, bigotry and destruction that most Americans have worked so hard to overcome.

Greg Jones
www.Blacks4Barack.org
A Multi-Racial Org...Dedicated To Truth !