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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:06 PM
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How Could Hillary Fail To Mention McCain/Bush In Her Speech?
It's hard to rally Hillary supporters to defeat John McCain (McBush) by campaigning hard for Obama when she fails to say anything negative about Obama's opponent.

McCain is going after Hillary primary voters and she refused to tell her supporters to reject his appeals.

I'd say that Hillary did just about the minimum amount "required" to "endorse" Obama's candidacy.

She could have launched a sharp political attack on Bush/McCain to help unify and rally the "troops" behind Obama and refused to do that in her carefully crafted speech.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:08 PM
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1. This was not a negative speech. Instead of depressing us about the last eight years...
...it was supposed to pump us up for the NEXT eight years.

Did the trick in my opinion.
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thepurpose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:08 PM
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2. I think she nuked the entire republican party with the part about how much we could have
accomplished with a democrat in the WH. And also how important it was not to make the same mistake again.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:12 PM
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14. I thought she made a perfect argument for Democrates = Progress
Republicans = Stagnancy. Reminded me of many of the great arguments Bill Clinton made over the years against the Repukes.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:08 PM
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3. Not today, today was about healing
There is tomorrow and the next five months to attack McCain.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:08 PM
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4. Its just a speech. Just words. They don't matter anyway...
A wise woman told me that...so I await actions. :)

ok...being a bit snarky here
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:09 PM
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5. Bingo.
99% dog whistle, 1% mumbled props to the African American who defeated the hopes and dreams of her 18 million supporters, no photo op with the Obama family. A total disgrace in my book but she evidently fooled a few fans.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:12 PM
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13. Sing Along With Me
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:09 PM
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6. Shut up. Please.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:09 PM
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7. Her speech ...
... (which was perfection personified) was about uniting the Party behind Obama, and moving forward together.

I think we all know who the enemy is.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:10 PM
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8. Not today, pal. She knocked it out of the park.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:10 PM
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9. Uh..gee...she didn't just concede, step aside, thank her supporters
throw her hat in the ring with Sen. Obama....she forgot to start the GE on your time table. LMAO.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:16 PM
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22. The General Election Is Under Way
The General Election began the day Obama won a majority of delegates. He gave his opening GE speech. Hillary could have given hers.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:20 PM
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49. I expected her to fart rainbows...
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 02:21 PM by rucky
poop ice cream, and give foot massages to the audience afterwards.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:11 PM
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:12 PM
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11. Nah. She can do that later (after she's rested)
I think it was appropriate to make this a positive, pro-Obama speech.

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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:12 PM
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she has plenty of time to do that
that was not the point of this speech
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:13 PM
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44. listen to her stump speeches. She already has -for several weeks now.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:08 PM
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50. true, but I think she will need to do more of it now to make sure her supporters stay away from him
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 05:20 PM
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51. oh stop making him out to be such a victim
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 12:20 AM
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52. i meant stay away from mccain and if they vote mccain, the victim isn't obama
it's the entire country
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:12 PM
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12. Today was not the day for a "slam McCain" speech.
I hope she does one eventually, but today was not the day.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:19 PM
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26. That Day Will Never Come
She will never "slam" her pal John McCain.


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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:23 PM
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27. Honestly, I don't care. She did what she had to do.
She made it possible for her 18 million "cracks" to hold their noses and vote for Obama. She reversed enough of the damage to ensure a Dem victory. Anything else is gravy.

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:56 PM
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37. She has in much the same way as Obama has.
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 02:00 PM by onenote
See post #34.

By the way, even Obama has been measured in his "attacks" on McCain. Here is how he started his discussion of McCain in his speech on the night of the final primaries:

In just a few short months, the Republican Party will arrive in St. Paul with a very different agenda. They will come here to nominate John McCain, a man who has served this country heroically. I honor that service, and I respect his many accomplishments, even if he chooses to deny mine. My differences with him are not personal; they are with the policies he has proposed in this campaign.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:11 PM
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43. You look foolish when you spout off NOT knowing what you are talking about. Listen to her stump
speeches the last several weeks and learn something before you spread more lies.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:13 PM
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15. kicked and recommended
and laughing maniacally

mu-AH HA HA

ickid and weevil and cranky man
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:13 PM
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16. because this was about the democratic nomination
so I suggest you go down to the market, find a large gourd, and shove it up your hateful ass.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:14 PM
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17. oh shut the hell up. nt
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:14 PM
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18. You must of not been listening. She did not mention McCain by name, but
JUST IMAGE WHAT TYPE OF PROGRESS WE COULD HAVE MADE IN THE LAST SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD A DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

NUFF SAID
NUFF SAID
NUFF SAID.

YES, WE CAN.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:16 PM
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20. She was alluding to Bill, and she did it twice.
Translation: we need a Clinton in the White House. That was the message, but don't bother denying it.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:15 PM
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19. She did. You weren't listening. Read other posts on this thread.
And besides, this was just a warm-up. Just wait until the bandwagon starts rolling around the country - from sea to shining sea.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:17 PM
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23. She didn't, and she won't be on the bandwagon.
If it wasn't clear on Tuesday it's clear now.
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AJH032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:16 PM
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21. She was once attacked for being negative
and now she's being attacked for not being negative enough. Please, just stop.

(Oh, and for the record, she DID mention the failed policies of the "last 7 years," obviously in reference to Bush).
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:33 PM
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29. When Has She Ever Been Negative On McCain?
The Answer:

NEVER!
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:53 PM
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34. Wrong. Spread your lying BS elsewhere
If the search function wasn't off,I'd just direct you to a post on this point from earlier in the week. But its not, so I'll just give one example, a speech by Clinton to the PA AFL-CIO in April:

After seven disastrous years of George Bush and Dick Cheney, the stakes in this election couldn’t be higher. And the need to change course couldn’t be more urgent. But I am here to tell you, Senator John McCain, a friend of mine, someone whose service to our country I admire, is only offering more of the same.

"John McCain admits he doesn’t understand the economy - and unfortunately he’s proving that day after day on the campaign trail. He looked at the housing crisis, and he blamed consumers. His plan for the economy is to extend George Bush’s tax cuts for billionaires and give a $100 billion additional corporate tax cut. The Bush/McCain philosophy could not be clearer - it’s the "ownership society", which really means "you’re on your own." If you’re not a crony, if you’re not wealthy, if you’re not well-connected, you fend for yourself; the others are taken care of it.

But don’t take just my word for it. Even a Republican Senator Mel Martinez from Florida after listening to Senator McCain’s economic pan gave it an "incomplete," and he said: "where I think he fell short" is the fact that we need to do some things that can help families, that can help people." Well, duh. Yeah, we do.

We need to do something that can help the American people for a change - put the middle class back into the driver’s seat. Give our families the opportunities they deserve.

You know, sometimes when that phone rings at 3am in the White House it’s an economic crisis. It seems like John McCain would just let it ring and ring and ring."

There are plenty of other examples. So take your sorry lying ass and go somewhere else.

Sincerely,
An Obama Supporter

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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:00 PM
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38. That's The First One I've Seen: How About A Link?
It would have been real nice if she had said that before the national TV audience of millions today and not just before a small group of union officials in Pennsylvania with little or no national news media present.

I don't think the networks covered her little labor speech. Am I wrong?

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:08 PM
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40. just go to hillary's site and click on the speech links. Not every speech rips mccain
but many do.

The AFL-CIO speech can be found here: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=6866

Here's another: A speech she gave in Montana
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=6956

"This is the America we will build together - an America where the next generation is always better off than the last. But in order to begin to do this work, we have to win in November. That means we have to defeat Senator McCain; a good man with a great record of serving America. He's a friend and colleague of mine and I admire his service, but he is offering the wrong ideas for our country. It is important that in the fall election we have a nominee ready to go toe-to-toe with John McCain on national security. He is willing to keep troops in Iraq for up to 100 years. I'll start bringing them home within the first 60 days of my taking office.

Senator McCain has admitted he doesn't really understand the economy. And unfortunately, he is proving it in this campaign. He looks at the home mortgage crisis and who does he blame? Not Wall Street, which helped create this mess in the first place. He blames the homeowners. He doesn't seem to understand that if our federal government can find $30 billion to bail out one firm on Wall Street, we ought to be able to find $30 billion to help homeowners stay in their homes and not lose them to the predatory practices of the mortgage industry.

I think we've had enough of a president who didn't know enough about economics and didn't do enough for the American middle class. We're ready for a President who, no matter whether that 3 a.m. call is about national security or an economic crisis, actually answers the phone and doesn't let it ring and ring and ring, trying to avoid taking responsibility for the mess that will be there when George Bush leaves."


And the following was in her famous "snipergate" speech at George Washington University:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=6553

"Despite the evidence, President Bush is determined to continue his failed policy in Iraq until he leaves office. And Senator McCain will gladly accept the torch and stay the course, keeping troops in Iraq for up to 100 years if necessary.

They both want to keep us tied to another country's civil war, a war we cannot win. That in a nutshell is the Bush/McCain Iraq policy. Don’t learn from your mistakes, repeat them. Well, here is the inescapable reality. We can have hundreds of thousands of troops on the ground for 100 years, but that will not change the fact that there is no military solution to the situation in Iraq.

And don't just take it from me. At his confirmation hearing, Admiral Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that without national political reconciliation, no amount of troops in no amount of time will make much of a difference. We simply cannot give the Iraqi government an endless blank check. Each passing month we stay in Iraq gives the Iraqi government more time to avoid the hard decisions on how to split the oil money and how to share political power. Senator McCain and president bush claim withdrawal is defeat. Well, let's be clear, withdrawal is not defeat. Defeat is keeping troops in Iraq for 100 years."



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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:14 PM
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46. She's not going to do any heavy lifting if she can help it
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 02:14 PM by dailykoff
and that's why she won't be anywhere near the ticket or the next admin. Today's ridiculous sob speech sealed the deal, and thank heaven for that.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:17 PM
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24. Quibbling.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:18 PM
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25. She will. She has just gotten started.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:14 PM
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47. she already has--just read/listen to her stump speeches for the last sev. weeks
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:25 PM
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28. The Democrats Need To Develop A Line Of Attack
They don't want to be seen as dissing an old war horse...

That's why Obama always praises McSame for his service...
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:35 PM
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30. More silly shit ....
Won't be long til June 11 ....

.............
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:36 PM
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2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 02:02 AM
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53. Hey
"It's all about integrity, respect, honesty, decency, open mindedness, fairness, and genuine desire to wish good upon all. That is why I'm a liberal."

you should take that shit off your profile
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:39 PM
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32. Good God.
Nothing she does will make some of you happy. She did great please get over it.

:banghead:
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:47 PM
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33. A photo op with Obama would have made me happy.
On Tuesday.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:53 PM
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PolNewf Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:55 PM
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36. I think she did a fine job n/t
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:04 PM
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39. Can't you be happy unless you have something to bitch about?
For God sake! Hillary did better than anyone was asking for today, but you still have to find something to gripe about! Go ourside and take a walk. Maybe some squirrel will listen to you!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:10 PM
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41. get a life and stop the hate.
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Nexus7 Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:10 PM
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42. She could've fallen on her sword and some Obama supporters would be bitching
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 02:12 PM by Nexus7
Make no mistake, for a lot of Obama supporters this has been about hating the Clintons.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:18 PM
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48. That was the lone complaint that I had about it
but all will be well if she starts attacking McCain sometime soon.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 05:33 PM
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54. For The Sunday DU Crew
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