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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:57 AM
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Allan J. Lichtman, Professor of History: the conservative era is coming to an end

the conservative era that began in 1980 is coming to an end



Conservative Disarray - Jun 6, 2008

link: http://news.google.com/news?btcid=70e35d3942b671

"One reason why the Keys to the White House, which have correctly predicted the popular-vote results of every presidential election since 1984, so strongly point to a Democratic victory this year is that the conservative era that began in 1980 is coming to an end. This is explained in my new book, White Protestant Nation: The Rise of the American Conservative Movement. As illustrated by the debate over immigration policies the movement is divided between pro-business and social conservatives. As illustrated by the persistent appeal of the once unknown Ron Paul conservatives are divided between conservatives with a libertarian bent and big government conservatives who have contradicted the ideals of limited government, fiscal responsibility, individual freedom, and states’ rights. During the Bush years, conservatives have built the biggest, most expensive, and most intrusive national government in the history of the Republic. Despite their disdain for social engineering by government, the Bush administration has undertaken in Iraq the most daunting and expensive social engineering project since the Reconstruction of the South. According to the Keys to the White House, conservative disarray is reflected in Republican midterm election losses, a lack of positive domestic accomplishments, setbacks abroad, and the failure to find an inspirational nominee."

link: http://news.google.com/news?btcid=70e35d3942b671

Professor Lichtman’s books include Prejudice and Old Politics: The Presidential Election of 1928; Your Family History; Ecological Inference; and The Keys to the White House. He was named the 1992-1993 Scholar-Teacher of the Year, the university’s highest faculty honor, and has provided commentary for all major U.S. broadcasting networks and cable companies, the Voice of America, and many foreign broadcast companies, including BBC and CBC. He worked with Dan Rather as a CBS consultant during the impeachment of President Clinton, served as the 2004 election-night analyst for BBC Worldwide, and is now political analyst for CNN Headline News. His more than 100 scholarly and popular articles have appeared in such journals and newspapers as the American Historical Review, the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the New York Times, and the Washington Post. He is also a columnist for the Montgomery Gazette and has served as an expert witness in more than 70 voting rights and redistricting cases.

http://www.american.edu/cas/hist/faculty/lichtman.htm


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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:00 AM
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1. AMEN!
It's about time!

The ONLY way to save our country is to pull ourselves out of the seventh level of reagan-bush CONservative Hell.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:03 AM
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2. I hope Prof. Lichtman is right
I would love for my 5 year old to grow up in an America that will have 2-3 decades of progressive leadership.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:07 AM
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3. The New Yorker had a good piece on the death of the conservative movement recently
I've posted it here before, just because of this fun little nugget that is also included about Buchanan

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/05/26/080526fa_fact_packer?currentPage=2


"Nixon was coldly mixing and pouring volatile passions. Although he was careful to renounce the extreme fringe of Birchites and racists, his means to power eventually became the end. Buchanan gave me a copy of a seven-page confidential memorandum—“A little raw for today,” he warned—that he had written for Nixon in 1971, under the heading “Dividing the Democrats.” Drawn up with an acute understanding of the fragilities and fault lines in “the Old Roosevelt Coalition,” it recommended that the White House “exacerbate the ideological division” between the Old and New Left by praising Democrats who supported any of Nixon’s policies; highlight “the elitism and quasi-anti-Americanism of the National Democratic Party”; nominate for the Supreme Court a Southern strict constructionist who would divide Democrats regionally; use abortion and parochial-school aid to deepen the split between Catholics and social liberals; elicit white working-class support with tax relief and denunciations of welfare. Finally, the memo recommended exploiting racial tensions among Democrats. “Bumper stickers calling for black Presidential and especially Vice-Presidential candidates should be spread out in the ghettoes of the country,” Buchanan wrote. “We should do what is within our power to have a black nominated for Number Two, at least at the Democratic National Convention.” Such gambits, he added, could “cut the Democratic Party and country in half; my view is that we would have far the larger half.”
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:22 AM
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4. Just in time for our country's economic collapse
I guess the American people wanted the Reaganauts to have every opportunity to prove their stuff, no matter how nonsensical or damaging to the country it was. Unfortunately they really took *every* opportunity and left none for their successors.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:21 PM
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5. THANKS FOR THE RECOMMENDS!!!
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:58 PM
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6. one more kick
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:02 PM
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7. I bee kickin' good post...
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:05 PM
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8. lol Bush single handidly ended the Conservative Era.
I can't believe I'm saying this: Thankyou Mr. President!
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:36 PM
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9. I think that is essentially correct along with the likes of Tom Delay and company
The Bush Administration brought in all the elements of the stridently hardline right..and had a sympathetic Congress for his first six years.

The right could not turn around and make excuses like they did during the Reagan years and claim that they were thwarted by a Democratic Congress. They also had several years of packing the courts and had developed an overwhelmingly sympathetic media too. There is no one left to pass the buck to.

They had it all for six full years. And the country could see with their own eyes the consequences.

The ONLY reason why Sen. McCain is viable at all is because many people are under the mistaken impression that he is a moderate or liberal Republican. The truth is, Sen. McCain was the only candidate they had who even has a prayer of a chance at winning and even that is based on commonly held misconceptions about Sen. McCain
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:42 PM
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10. They also ignored the whole "smaller government" aspect of conservatism.
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 09:52 PM by anonymous171
Alienated a large part of their base.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:51 PM
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12. Absolutely True,
I can remember in pre-Reagan days that it was an absolute conservative mantra that they would balance the budget, balance the budget, balance the budget - and reduce the size of government.
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They did exactly the opposite.

And even the theocratic wing must be disappointed. They certainly believed way back 28 years ago in 1980 when they elected Reagan that they would ban abortion, return prayer to schools and see that gay and lesbian people returned to the closet. I'm sure they thought that this would all be accomplished before Reagan left office. Of course I am glad that they COULD NOT fulfill this part of their agenda. They could not stop the time.

But if the theocratic element got into politics thinking that they could reverse the time and have discovered that they cannot. It removes an enormous motivation for them to continue.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:42 PM
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11. Let's see:
Ran businesses into the ground? Check
Fried his brain with drugs and alcohol for years and years? Check
Ruined the entire country of Iraq? Check
Took a massive surplus and turned it into a massive deficit? Check
Singlehandedly ended the entire Conservative Era? Check

Is there ANYTHING this man touches that doesn't turn to crap?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:56 PM
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13. Great post!
Kickety-kick! :)
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:32 AM
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14. one more
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:48 AM
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15. IMHO there are more conservatives in the Democratic Party than in the GOP
The GOP is overrun with 'neo'conservatives and 'neo'liberals. The 'neo'conservatives are the polarized, single-issue reactionaries, including many former Dixiecrats and John Birchers. The 'neo'liberals include the corporatists and global big-footers. The traditional 'conservative' who emphasizes "less is bettter" and "keep it local" along with a "don't fix what's not broken" attitude and small business primacy above nationa and international corporatism finds himself split ... with folks like John Murtha and Robert Byrd in the Democratic Party and Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins and Lincoln Chaffee in the Republican Party.

Make no mistake: The GOP is American Fascism.
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