FoxNews is slowly building the case that there is a lot of "black racism"

[PretzelWarrior]

and that is why there will naturally be a sort of backlash "white racism". Can you help me find some examples? I am having a conversation with my neighbor about this. I've found a few small references....but what are some ways documented that FauxNews, Limbaugh and the rest of the right wing regressives are painting the case that there is a bunch of African American racism. I'm not saying there's NO African American racism at all in this country, but they are essentially trying to create a scare tactic for white America similar to the old racist stereotypes of young black men as a danger to you and me.

PLease get ahead of this. Break this argument down. They are just now getting started with it, and we need to hold them accountable for their xenophobia, frear mongering, and white racism disguised as 'concern'.

[Enthusiast]

1. They have done this for years

This is how they justify their racist attitude. Remember Limbaugh's words on Monday Night Football. They are now ramping up the rhetoric because of the assault planned on Barack Obama.

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[Frances]

4. I agree that Fox news is racist

but all of the southern racists I knew were extremely anti Bill Clinton and rabidly anti Hillary Clinton.

[Evergreen Emerald]

5. Bull shit

FU

[Catherine Vincent]

15. Wow!

That poster must have said something really fucked up for you to post what you did. :hi:

[cbc5g]

8. "White folks everywhere think this"

No, sorry...not this white folk or any I know. Thats some serious BS.

[NOLALady]

3. The way I see it,

"white racism" has nothing whatsoever to do with backlash.

I really doubt if you can convince typical racists that young (or old) black men (and/or women) are not dangerous.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

6. Easy. They continuously cite Rev. Wright as the most recent example...

but affirmative action programs are the coup de gras.

[NYC_SKP]

7. Fox fabricates the "news", then they report it!

It's fucking brilliant!

[Prophet 451]

9. No, it doesn't exist

Are a few black people racist? Sure. Is it very many black people? No. Is it prevelent enough to crate a "white voter" backlash? Are you nuts?

A few black people are racist against whites, usually because white people have been racist toward them. But the idea that firstly, racism is a huge problem in black communities and secondly, that even if it were, it would have nothing to do with decades of white racism, is just absurd. This is the Ann Coulter school of demonising the other party's reaction to your own failings.

[FrenchieCat]

10. Racism has to first be defined.

This is the definition I concur with:

The belief that one 'racial group' is inferior to another and the practices of the dominant group to maintain the inferior position of the dominated group. Often defined as a combination of power, prejudice and discrimination. The stigmatising of difference along the lines of ‘racial’ characteristics in order to justify advantage or abuse of power, whether economic, political, cultural or psychological.

In other words, it is nearly impossible to be racist if you belong to an opressed group, although you can certainly be prejudiced. If you are unable to excert any means to influence your power over them in a dominating manner whether economically, politically, culturally or psychologically, then racism is not a qualified description.

We live in a majority White society and therefore White People have the power via all branches of government and by virtue of sheer numbers. White people also are majority represented in the employment sector, the housing sector, the courts, the law enforcement, and the media. Because they are in control of these various power areas, they control how minorities will be treated in each. Black people have no such power. Even in having a 1/2 Black President, the majority of the government branches would remain in control of Anglos.

Sure there is "prejudice" that some people of all races have against other people due to their race, but these are individual tendencies, and are not considered on par with the practice of racism.

Is prejudice more prevelant in the Black community? I dare say not. In fact, Black people are much more accepting of other races than are White people in general (having to be "general" is a problem that we cannot escape). Churches, businesses, and even schools have never had policies barring White People from participating.

I can cite examples of Black people being discriminated against for virtue of their race throughout history, while that has not been the case for White people. Those Whites who claim "reverse" discrimination due to programs such as Affirmative Action, etc... are incorrect, as it was White people who established such programs, not Black people. Even a program such as forced bussing wasn't done via race, but rather via geographical bounderies. I remember in high school, we lived in a predominently white neighborhood in the hills. However, because of where we lived, I had to go to a school for the purpose of integration that was in the flatlands (as we called it) to a predominantly Black school. However, I am not White. However, due to where I lived, I had to climb on that bus along with my neighbors.

[PretzelWarrior]

14. yes. that is a great set of comments

I was always annoyed by that "reverse racism" bullcrap about affirmative action but couldn't think it through completely. You gave me the perfect answer for that type of stuff.

[Terran]

22. Well said.

I'd like to add one point that I rarely hear in these discussions. White racism is essentially irrational because it has no basis in fact. It's just hate for its own sake, and comes close to mental illness, in my opinion. Any black person who is racist (and I have never met such a person) can at least point to the real world for making him or her that way. Black 'racism', if it exists, is reactionary in nature. It's a logical result of real-world situations.

I have always thought it said volumes about black Americans that they have managed to tolerate white people they way they have, for so long.

[Bill McBlueState]

26. thank you!

Anyone who really understands what racism is will also understand why "black racism" borders on an oxymoron.

[Spock_is_Skeptical]

11. I have long ceased caring about faux & their bullshit.

[Tutonic]

12. Look, you build the case by watching one hour of anything on FOX

They have done nothing to conceal their overt glee at castigating blacks. Rupert Murdoch is a self loathing racist with a black grandchild. Yet he allows Roger Aile's and the newsreaders to spew hatred towards blacks. Someone should tell him that his child bride is big ole lesbian--oh I guess I just did.

[PretzelWarrior]

13. I never watch FoxNews

just reporting what I'm seeing from the blogosphere. Just because you don't watch it doesn't mean it's not happening. I'm saying we need to force people to go on the offensive attacking this stuff. Otherwise they'll keep doing it and it will work.

[JoFerret]

16. Well...they are right...there is

In about the same proportion as "white racism". i.e. 100%

[jeffrey_X]

17. Outside of random verbal comments, can someone prove that any type of "other" racism

exist where African Americans are racist towards white people?

I'm talking types of institutional racism, whites being denied rights, held back from opportunities. Obviously affirmative action exists, but what would our society be like if it didn't exist. It would be unwritten AA that would favor whites.

[Number23]

19. They will be hard to find and harder to prove

I'm sure that there may be instances of whites being denied admittance to HBCU's (historically black colleges and universities) or admittance to black organizations. However, it will be difficult to determine if it's a "racist" act since these organizations and institutions were created to provide a place of solace and learning to blacks who were historically denied admittance to white institutions and organizations in the first place. As noted earlier on this thread, most acts deemed "racist" historically have resulted in a lack of opportunities or some denial of basic rights on the part of the victim.

So if a white person tries to get into Howard University or pledge Alpha Phi Alpha and is denied, is that a "racial" or even a "discriminatory" act, yes. But a "racist" act? That's where it gets trickier. And either way, is it enough to justify Fox's rabid attempts to stir up a race war under the guise that black folks are discriminating against deserving whites and so voting against Obama is the only way to seek justice for these poor, mistreated individuals? Hell no....

[spinbaby]

18. ABC is helping

Start of tonight's newscast: Is America ready for a black president?

[barack the house]

20. If they have any issue with the side of him that is black tell them vote for his white side...

If you can burn this clip to video cd only possible with windows xp. It may help them to see him a new way....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRYh3Ae-DoQ

[CreekDog]

21. Finally there is racism that Fox cares about

:eyes:

[WilmywoodNCparalegal]

23. As an aside, there is a religious sect

that used to broadcast around these parts on Sundays at 7 am. It's something about the 12 tribes of the chosen people and how they are - supposedly - only of people of African, Caribbean and Latin American descent (somehow Argentinians and Brazilians are not among the 12 tribes), along with a few native Americans. In other words, people from these 12 tribes are the chosen few, not the Jews. Only if you belong to one of these 12 tribes can you aspire to heaven. This sect says anyone else who does not belong to these 12 tribes is evil. That includes everyone in Asia, Europe, North America (if not among the 12 tribes).

Now, that is a definite example of black on white racism, but in no way compares to white on black racism or its history.

[eldixon]

24. well

this nothing New, we just need to stay focused on the big picture

[Brewman_Jax]

25. What they don't think about...

there's a big difference in having your feelings hurt, which is often the case in "black racism", as opposed to having your rights, choices, and opportunies limited by having the wrong skin color.

[dancingme]

27. That is Hannity's entire act for the last 10 years

the poor white "great Americans" are in danger from blacks who hate them.