Has Obama made even one Negative McCain ad??

[Thrill]

I haven't seen one yet in NC.

[anonymous171]

1. He should release a whole slew of them in October, to compensate for the Wright ads.

You know they're coming. That way while McCain is talking about Obama's pastor Obama can negatively and directly define McCain.

[Captain Angry]

34. Makes me want to start a 527.

Just to be brutal. Run my own show, say I'm Captain Angry and I approve this message... anybody who choses a political candidate solely on the basis of their pastor, or lack thereof, is a douchebag.

And then put Hagee up there. Robertson, and the other pretenders who claim to be pious but are MILLIONAIRES. How can you be wealthy when the money from your church is supposed to help the poor and the hungry? Oh, right, when you're not a church. You're a tax-exempt entertainment company.

[SoonerPride]

2. I don't think you'll see one from his campaign

That's what 527s are for

[Azathoth]

9. The Obama campaign is shutting down all the Dem 527s n/t

[KAZ]

11. Wow! Such power he has.

Pass the bong.

[Azathoth]

26. ?

:wtf:

[BlooInBloo]

29. (shrug) He had MoveOn's shut down. Dunno about others.

EDIT: For the google-challenged:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/20/moveon-to-close-its-527-i_n_108300.html

"MoveOn, the advocacy group supporting Barack Obama, has decided to permanently shutter its 527 operation, partly in response to the Illinois Senator's insistence that such groups should not spend on his behalf during the general election, I've learned from the group's spokesperson."

[AZ Criminal JD]

23. That is legally impossible but believe if it gets you through the day

[Azathoth]

25. Uh, what?

The Obama campaign is openly asking/pressuring Dem 527 groups to shut down and/or not run ads on its behalf during the election. MoveOn and a few others have already agreed to do so. Try to keep up.

Small groups will obviously still be around, but they ain't gonna get far without big donors.

[AZ Criminal JD]

35. Uh, I didn't stutter. I said it wasn't legally possible

Try to take a reading comprehension course and then you will be able to keep up.

[creeksneakers2]

30. Obama didn't force them, He couldn't

He asked MoveOn.org to drop its 527 and they did.

[CrownPrinceBandar]

3. I haven't seen one..........

I was thinking today, while watching his speech in Berlin, how positive and hopeful he's keeping his message, even in his ads. McLame, OTOH, is turning into a one-man slime machine. Its no wonder why the rest of the world has seemed to take to Sen. Obama so well.

Dogdamn me, I'm starting to feel a glimmer of hope.

edit: spelling

[Thrill]

4. Well I think McCain has been

closing the gap. Because they don't have ads out there pushing the McCain-Bush connection enough. Hopefully they have some ready when he comes back

[frogcycle]

5. He doesn't need to.

McCain is making them daily. Every frigging presser.

[Thrill]

6. the problem is the media lets McCain get away

with it

[depakid]

12. Yep- and it could well cost Obama the election (or at least his coattails)

if his campaign reprises Kerry/Gore/Dukakis games.

[bigwillq]

7. I hope he doesn't.

He should keep with his "Change" mantra and fore go making any negative ads.

All is fair in a debate but he should stay positive on the air.

[RBInMaine]

17. That would be SUICIDE ! Christ, didn't Willie Horton teach you anything? !

Dems have been god damn WIMPS ! Obama and his team should eviscerate McBUSH with TONS of ads that tear him to SHREDS for the policy Bush clone that he is. C'mon people ! Wake up ! Politics is WAR !
Stop this decades-long election-LOSING wimpfest and get tough for Christ sake !

[bigwillq]

22. Well then Obama would be a fraud.

That "Change Mantra" could bite him in the ass then. He wouldn't really be changing Washington then if he did the same ole, same ole.

[book_worm]

8. McCain has really been investing here in WI--one negative ad after another, but new Poll out gives O

an 11-point lead in WI.

[RBInMaine]

18. Andif Obama doesn't respond McBUSH will WIN Wisconsin.

[book_worm]

21. Why do you think he won't respond?

[MrScorpio]

10. Get off of his lawn!

[cbc5g]

13. He's waiting...if you go negative early and often like McCain then it won't be as effective later on

[depakid]

14. Worked pretty well for Bush in 2004....

[cbc5g]

16. McCains aren't really effective though...the lying swiftboaters really fucked Kerry up because

He didn't do well responding to them and calling Bush out since they were funded by Bush people (including T Boone Pickins).

[RBInMaine]

20. So this time Obama better fight FORWARD and ATTACK McBUSH or he will LOSE !!

[hisownpetard]

15. Every time Barack smiles, it's the equivalent of a negative McCain ad.

[RBInMaine]

19. Another PUSSY post. When will Dems toughen up for Christ sake !

We get the shit kicked out of us in election after election because we ALLOW it ! And too many wimpy, wishy washy, bleeding heart liberals are too NUMB to realize that electoral politics is TOUGH, ROUGH business. Hear this and hear it well, either we go on OFFENSE this time, or we lose another one. Forget this idealistic horsecrap. Roll up your sleeves fellow Dems, grow some balls, see reality, and FIGHT these GOP scroatbags with everything you've got.

[mloutre]

24. Please quit push-trolling, RB, it ill becomes you. In fact, it *really* ill becomes you.

[AnnieBW]

27. Why bother?

McSame is doing a good job of being his own negative ad!

[Avalux]

28. Not yet but I think it'll happen in the home stretch.

There's so much material to use; I can't imagine giving McCain a free pass. Would be the truth too.

[creeksneakers2]

31. Obama needs to attack more

No cheap attack ads though. Ads should be fair, honest and relevant to important issues of the election. There is tons of stuff on McCain out there. McCain shifting to Obama's position on Afghanistan is a good example.

[Cha]

32. Maybe Obama will make an ad with mccain as

the star of his own negativity?

[Barack_America]

33. Nope. That's what the DNC is for.

And I agree with this strategy.

[4themind]

36. I don't know if it's defined by some as "negative" but

I've seen one where McCain's energy policy is criticized and contrasted with Obama, it also points out how often McCain has agreed with Bush's positions. There was also the Radio McCain=McSame ads(but this could be viewed as reactionary), but if he can respond to McCain's attack timely, while continuing to push forth his own positives that could go a long way to helping him win in november. I think the pattern for "negative" commercials latter on, will not be the sleazy character attacks, but will deliberately link McCain to bush in the Economy, and in Foreign Policy.

[and-justice-for-all]

37. I think Obama is saving his ammo for the big show..

come debate time, Obama is going to hand McBush his ass.

McBush has been doing all the negative ads.