If Kennedy picks Johnson I'm voting for Nixon

[Hippo_Tron]

Johnson's record on civil rights is horrible.

[Debi]

1. You're not a REAL Democrat!

:grr:

[LostinVA]

2. Link to ANY poster saying they'd vote for McCain?

If Kaine is Obama's VP?

No, I didn't think so. And yes, that's what you meant.

[Hippo_Tron]

5. I'm not accusing people of threatening to vote for McCain, just setting the historical context

[dsc]

3. Johnson did bury us in VietNam, I am not totally sure you want his example

[valerief]

6. He did show America his appendix scar. Or some scar on his gut.

Can't really remember. You don't see presidents doing that very often. Of course, in recent years, it's been pretty common to see the president with a black eye. How many black eyes has Bush had? But I digress.

[Gato Moteado]

17. the current president shows america his ass quite a bit......

....just like you'd expect a chimp to do.

[Hippo_Tron]

8. No, no we didn't get that far because Nixon got us into a nuclear war with the Soviets

Because he couldn't keep his trigger finger still during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

[dsc]

11. there probably wouldn't have been a cuban missle crisis

under Nixon. Kennedy's botching of the bay of pigs helped bring that about. Nixon likely wouldn't have made that error. Kennedy was still a better choice but not on foreign affairs.

[Hippo_Tron]

14. Kennedy botched it by doing it half-assed instead of not doing it at all

He did it half-assed because he was rightfully worried about Khrushchev responding by taking Berlin if they knew that the US was responsible. Nixon would've given full support to the Cuban exiles and it either would've failed like it did under Kennedy or succeeded and Khrushchev would've then taken Berlin. That would've led to a nuclear conflict sooner or later.

[elocs]

4. How did that ever work out? n/t

[Hippo_Tron]

9. Splendid, assuming you're white

[jobycom]

10. ??

Was that sarcasm? Johnson's legacy is forever ruined because of Viet Nam, but he was the strongest Civil Rights president we've ever had.

[Hippo_Tron]

12. I mean, if Nixon had won instead of Kennedy

Nixon would've meant Vietnam and no civil rights.

[jobycom]

16. Ah! My bad. Good point! nt

[muntrv]

7. That's right. He's supposed to pick Adlai Stevenson as his running mate.

[elocs]

13. Kind of the way that some now believe that Obama should pick Gore or Kerry.

There's no way Gore would ever do it and I would be extremely doubtful about Kerry. I think Kerry will emulate Kennedy and just try and be the very best senator he can be for the rest of his political career.

[salonghorn70]

15. Well, Back to the Original Post

Those things were said about LBJ. Kennedy didn't pick him until Thursday since JFK's nomination wasn't clinched until the actual roll call. RFK and JFK were both afraid that there might be a nomination fight over LBJ. Kennedy was in control of the convention enough to stave this off. I think the JFK delegates just accepted JFK's judgment on this and realized that LBJ would help carry Texas. Practical and hard boiled politics - can you believe it?