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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:07 AM
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Something BIG was expected from Kerry this morning. WHERE is it?
Ok. Last night there was this post here in GDC04. Basically there was a rumor floated by Tom Oliphant on Scarborough, that something big was going to be coming from the Kerry camp on this SmearLiar strategy. Some people were projecting that it would be during Kerry's speech today in NY. I have read the press release and the article relating to Kerry's comments this morning. However, this is not what I had hoped for. Yes he is framing the issues and calling attention to the Kerry/Edwards plan for America, and slamming the horrible record of the past 4 years of * and his band of criminal republiCONS. This will get little if any press at all. The only ones that will read what was said are in "the choir" already. I don't see how this will help.

If this is the BIGGIE that was supposed to come down. I must admit I am extremely disappointed.

Read the thread. Tons of speculation as to what was supposed to happen this morning.

Tom Oliphant knows something thats going to go down

Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 07:53 PM by demdem
Tom Oliphant knows something, on Scarborough he keeps hinting that something big is about to happen beginning tomorrow.


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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:08 AM
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1. Welcome to the universe of disappointment ....
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:11 PM
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22. LOL
You're a wise one Trajan!
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:09 AM
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2. He's giving a speech .
It's live on CNN now.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:09 AM
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3. well he's giving a speech right now.
maybe he'll say something then.
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canuckybee Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:10 AM
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4. son of a bitch
wolfie cut him off
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:11 AM
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5. Exactly.
Cut him off now. I told you this will get no effing play around this goddamn town.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:14 AM
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6. They were expecting him to come out swinging at
the smear campaign. From the Oliphant thread last night, I was hoping it would happen.

Oh well.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:14 AM
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7. I so want to smack wolf right now
what a slut.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:15 AM
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8. Not necessarily in his speech today?
I don't think that Oliphant said it would be in his speech today--that was a supposition on our part.

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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:16 AM
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10. well we can't know now
since cnn=fox=msnbc cut the speech off.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:40 AM
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13. Yes, he said beginning today
It's probably the start of something that will go on for a number of days. A counterattack putting Bush increasingly on the defensive heading into the RNC would be great.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:15 AM
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9. "beginning tomorrow" Oliphant never said something would happen today.
Besides, this election is not going to be won by just one bombshell. If that were true, * would already be gone when no WMD's were found in Iraq. This campaign is going to be, as Rummy would say, "a long hard slog."
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:28 AM
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12. Yep
Hopefully, whatever it is that is "begining" today will be timed to come to a bush/cheney-damning head just in time to steal the media spotlight from the rnc lie fest.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:27 AM
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11. I didn't see the speech, but it IS getting press.
They're talking about how he said Bush was linked to the ads etc. This is a big deal folks.

Today was the BEGINNING of the counter attack. BEGINNING ...
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:42 AM
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15. Yup! Sure it is. Tons of play.
Every news outlet cut away from the speech to discuss the Smearboaters and how both camps want to now focus on the issues. They even played the smear ad a few more times.

:eyes:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:49 AM
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16. waaaaaah
why so cynicaL?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:52 AM
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19. I am pissed.
I am just tired of getting my hopes up all the time.

Toturegate

Plamegate

Iraqgate

Smeargate
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:51 AM
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17. When I tuned in they talked about how Kerry had tough words for Bush?
Guess it depends on what you watch?

:shrug:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:51 AM
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18. Wait till Tweety and Keith and Aaron and Jon get ahold...
...of the sound bites from this one.


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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:41 AM
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14. the daily show
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:53 AM
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20. That's what I'm thinking
I can't wait until the show tonight!
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:09 PM
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21. Every day we think we'll win the day tomorrow
And then tomorrow actually comes. :(

At some point we're going to have to take Bush down today.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:14 PM
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23. Uh if the election were held today, we'd WIN
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:18 PM
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24. The election is not being held today!
Bush knows that. Don't you think he plans to beat Kerry up right up until the day of the election?

We need to go on the offensive soon!
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:40 PM
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25. "just one bombshell"??
Someone just said that this campaign isn't going to be won on "just one bombshell"---hell it 'ain't'!!! And if we don't start protecting our asses, we are going to find the bombshell securely planted up those asses. There are only WEEKS....yes WEEKS left and we are all on a Swiftboat heading down the :hurts: We need a Kerry lobbed bombshell and I'm beginning to think they don't have one. Yack, yacking more about the 'issues' (nuts as it seems) is now boooooring to the American people (who always insist that's what they want). Either "swiftboat" them on something or the proven techniques of the Bush family in campaigns will triumph once again.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:04 PM
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26. As Soon As The Tectonic Plates Shift and The Plame Indictments
come down- File in the "sucked in again by the wishful thinkers" department
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:44 PM
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30. We wait for others to do our dirty work while the Republicans attack
No one is going to save us - not the media of the government - so Kerry better do some attacking of his own.

Is there really going to be some big news today or was it all bullshit?
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:29 PM
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27. The freeper types are yakking about a Dem "October surprise"
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 04:30 PM by Carni
While the Swiftboat liars (in posts at the swift boat liar site) are claiming they have papers that will force Kerry to step down from running.

99% of this stuff is just floated rumor and bullshit from both sides.

I have gotten to the point where I believe it when I see it!

Edited: because this post initially made zero sense!
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:39 PM
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28. I *hope* Kerry has an October Surprise ready to go
cos I'm pretty much assuming that Rove will have three or four.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:46 PM
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29. You and me both!
EOM
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:17 PM
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32. We're witnessing the 'August Surprise' as we type...
I imagine that this is the tip of the iceberg.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:09 PM
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31. kick
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