To any PUMAs out there this is not helping Hillary.

[barack the house]

The protests are not going to make Hillary the nominee, the party would look foolish to overturn a result, the GE is not a popular vote, the primary is not, even at full seating she was behind. As for media unfairness why are there those that felt it would improve after the 90s??. Secondly you only have to imagine that you had the power to offer the VP slot. Do you offer it to people who ask nicely or offer it to them that demand the running mate post. So, if you really want for Hillary to be on the ticket the wisest mature thing to be doing is emailing barack obama nicely to convince him that she is the best vp. That is the only viable option I see. Anything else isn't helping her. Hillary is trying her best to show that she is the best vp out there all the protests are doing are working against this. It all depends if you genuinely support her at this point. Positivity creates negativity destroys.

[still_one]

1. PUMA by their very name shows what they are /nt

[barack the house]

2. I believe they're real they have been with her 8 years it's bound to be a blow after all that time..

Remeber some may of backed her since her senate run, but if they truly love this woman they need to tread lightly than to blow all her chances would seem wisest to me.

[still_one]

3. I didn't say they weren't real, but when you have in your name "unity my ass"

that tells me they don't care for the country, the party, just the person, and your common sense argument with that group will get thrown right back at you

The majority of Clinton supporters WILL support Obama because they realize what mccain is, especially to women's rights

PUMA is NOT the majority, though I have no doubt that the media will try to make it appear that they are.

[Skittles]

4. and the same DUers seem to persist with their PUMA fantasies

:thumbsdown:

[GoesTo11]

20. You can't always get what you want.

Life's that way.

[PatGund]

5. They're becoming more unhinged.....

Take a look at the latest myths at "NoQuarter" and "texasdarlin". Someone forgot to take their meds.....

[barack the house]

6. All I'm putting forward is if they want her on the ticket milk and honey always works.

[PresidentObama]

7. I've yet to see one PUMA on DU. So who are you talking to?

[madfloridian]

9. They are here.

I have the bruises to show it. They are careful about posting.

[PresidentObama]

17. Please feel free to PM me the names. I don't believe you.

[scheming daemons]

14. There were dozens.... they have mostly all been tombstoned....

But there's two or three left.... I won't name them, but two of them have ids that start with the letter "B".

[PresidentObama]

18. I think I know one you're talking about, and he/she isn't PUMA. Just lukewarm on Obama.

Which I could care less, as long as we have her/his support in November!

[Whisp]

8. they're out to hurt Obama, not help Hillary.

[Forkboy]

10. It's not Hillary they really care about. She's just their shield.

What they really care about deep down is themselves, and not much else.

[darius15]

11. Do PUMA's ever come on DU?

I seriously think we should just forget them. They can stay pissed at Obama as long as they want. I'm pretty sure that 75-80 % of Clinton supporters are on board, and atleast 3\4 of the remaining 20-25% will either write hillary in, vote third party, or stay home. That leaves about 5 % of Clinton supporters (PUMA's) who will vote McCain.

[Faygo Kid]

12. They get tombstoned.

Too many former DUers went PUMA after the primaries, and now post on insanely anti-Obama sites like Capital Hill Forum and hillaryclintonforum.net.

More an interesting phenomenon than a real threat, I think. One thing is for sure - they are bitter. Yikes.

[Apollo11]

13. The way I see it, the whole PUMA thing is all about bugging Obama and his supporters

If you let it get to you, it only encourages them to keep going ...

[Metric System]

15. A reminder: According to polls, the MAJORITY of Hillary supporters are now behind Obama, at her

urging.

[CreekDog]

16. nobody was arguing that PUMAs were anything near the majority of Hillary supporters

but they are out there and i can't change their minds.

[Metric System]

19. Exactly. So why obsess over them? Any nominee will never get 100% support.

[madfloridian]

21. Because she is encouraging them.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2461

[PresidentObama]

22. Bullshit.

[madfloridian]

25. Did you watch the video?

That is who in large part who made up the fundraiser.

Don't call bullshit until you watch the video.

[PresidentObama]

27. I've seen the video. And again...bullshit.

[madfloridian]

28. I wrote a reasoned argument, you wrote BS

and nothing else. That is not an argument.

[PresidentObama]

29. You lied. You said she is encouraging them.

[madfloridian]

30. No, the video is my proof. You must not have watched it.

[PresidentObama]

31. Watched it in full. You're lying;.

[madfloridian]

32. I have had posts disappear for saying someone lied.

:shrug:

[joshcryer]

34. You've also attempted to get peoples posts deleted for saying the same thing.

Fortunately when I call someone a liar it's merited. :)

[madfloridian]

35. Are you calling me one? Did you watch the video of Hillary....

making her supporters feel like they had been mistreated?

Life is rough, ain't it.

[joshcryer]

33. You must be new here to have not noticed the systematic hatred with regards to Hillary.

I mean, seriously. This is nothing new at all.

[madfloridian]

36. There is no hatred of Hillary at all. There is the reality...

of what she is allowing in her name.

[Metric System]

24. Well I'm not surprised to see you making that argument.

[CreekDog]

23. because when Democrats take shots at the nominee

we notice.

[Major Hogwash]

26. I don't think they care at this point.

I think their egos have gone on overtime and their batteries are corroded.

[barack the house]

37. I don't think Hillary is encouraging them but there are always lurkers and just putting forward what

is helping and hurting her chances to be on the ticket.