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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:30 PM
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A reply from Clackamas County District Attorney John S. Foote

..not an unexpected reply. It appears that DDA French can lie just so long as he lies on his dime.

Dear Sir,

Thank you for taking the time to contact our office with your
comments/concerns about Mr. French. I want to begin by saying that, while I
do not personally share the opinions expressed by our prosecutor, all of our
employees have the right to their own opinions on these subjects and to
express those opinions in their own time. I believe that this is what
happened here. Sometimes good people just honestly disagree. It is
particularly difficult when it is on subjects that are so important to our
nation and our community. Thanks again for contacting the Clackamas County
District Attorney's Office.

John S. Foote
Clackamas County District Attorney
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:31 PM
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1. Do good people who happen to be assistant DAs also
sometimes honestly sign false affidavits?
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:34 PM
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3. He neglected to address that issue.

I suspect that all of us who contacted him will get a similar response.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:42 PM
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7. I read a Freeper defense of this which went:
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 03:46 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
Well, he could have signed an affidavit which stated that what OTHERS told him he believed to be true. :crazy:

here
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:46 PM
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11. the affidavit he signed
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 03:48 PM by swag
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1093089949215830.xml#continue


Saturday, August 21, 2004
The following is the sworn affidavit of Alfred J. French III, signed July 21, 2004:

"My name is Alfred J. French III. I am over the age of 21 years, and I am fully competent and able to make this affidavit. I am able to swear, as I do hereby swear, that all facts and statements contained in this affidavit are true and correct and within my personal knowledge or belief.

"I served in Coastal Division 11 with John Kerry during his brief stay in Vietnam. My picture may be found (against my wishes) on John F. Kerry's ("Kerry") website, www.johnkerry.com, under his Lifetime commercial, where John Kerry includes my picture along with 18 other Patrol Craft Fast ("PCF") (also known as Swift boats) commanders in An Thoi along with him during his service there. I am a retired Captain in the United States Navy Reserve and was an Ensign when serving with Kerry.

"Kerry has wildly exaggerated and lied about his record in Vietnam. By way of example, on two occasions Kerry obtain Purple Hearts under false pretenses from negligently self-inflicted grenade wounds in the absence of hostile fire. His first Purple Heart is the subject of widespread coverage. Thus, for example, his third Purple Heart of March 13, 1969 is attributed in his report of that day to a "hip wound" from an enemy mine while he himself admits on page 313 of Tour of Duty (by Douglas Brinkley; New York: Harper Collins, 2004) that he was wounded supposedly by a grenade placed in a rice bin by friendly troops. Kerry's commercials, for example, portraying him as a soldier with bandolier going through the jungle totally mischaracterizes his actual role in Vietnam.

"Most important to me, Kerry has lied about our record in Vietnam, claiming on a 1971 Meet The Press show that our unit was engaged in "atrocities." This is not true. On the Dick Cavett Show on 1971 (cf. Kranish at 92), he claimed that crews at An Thoi were involved in a mutiny. This was likewise a lie. There are many other lies that Kerry has told about his record and our mutual record in Vietnam.

"Further affiant saith not.

"Alfred J. French III"


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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:53 PM
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12. What a convoluted statement
full of subjective statements more than facts.
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OilemFirchen Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:09 PM
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18. They may be right.
I won't go the the freaker thread, but the affidavit does state "... I do hereby swear, that all facts and statements contained in this affidavit are true and correct and within my personal knowledge or belief". So he prolly has a defense, should it ever reach a court of law, which it won't.

Of course, legalese is "parsing" to wingnutz and, accordingly, irrelevant to the law. That's why, despite Clinton's having clearly not committed perjury, the whackjobs still insist he did.

Accordingly, I'd hardly expect them to use that as a defense. Otherwise, they'd not only be hypocrites (gawd forbid), but demonstrably guilty of "relativism" - a concept practiced only by Satanists, Baby-Killers, Cannibals, and Liberals.

</sarcasm>, just in case...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:44 PM
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9. TORO TURD!
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 03:48 PM by rocknation
Difference of opinion, my donkey--THE BASTARD LIED!!!

As an attorney, Mr. French's credibility is his only stock-in-trade. When he became a DISTRICT attorney, he sold his credibility to the state. As attorneys are so fond of asking witnesses, did he lie about the Smear-Boaters then or is he lying now? And if he'd lie about this, how can he be trusted in his future legal endeavors?

Mr. French is an incompetent at best and a liar at worst. If you won't fire him outright, Mr. Foote, at least launch an investigation. Mr. French has put your office's credibility on the line. Everyone tells lies, but attorneys CAN'T--especially when they're de facto extensions of the government.

:headbang:
rocknation
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:00 PM
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13. "Mr. French's credibility is his only stock-in-trade"
You got that right. I'd hate to see a Willie Horton Jr go free because he was able to challenge his conviction due to this STATE GOVERNMENT employee's penchant for signing FALSE affidavits. I would think the state could incur a great expense going over this guy's past cases because he chose to be an asshole on "his own time".
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:34 PM
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2. Foote in mouth
He's missing the larger issue----

French signed an affidavit swearing to facts that he did not know to be true.
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davepdx Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #2
21. I responded to the form email
Quaoar, I incorporated your issue into my 2nd email to Mr. Foote:

Dear Mr. Foote:

I thank you for the reply, even though it is a form reply. I'm sure that your office has been overwhelmed with comments.

Unfortunately, your reply does not address the issue: This man signed an affidavit swearing to facts that he did not personally know to be true, but rather from hearsay. That odious behavior cannot be tolerated from a public prosecutor, ever!

This matter just won't go away, I assure you. There are too many of us that are outraged by this vile act on his part.

Sincerely,

David A. Lewis
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:36 PM
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4. Received same answer but...
the goal was to let them know that we are not taking it laying down. We made them spend money to answer our e-mails, and our e-mails will go directly to their place of business. Hope they went crazy when they saw the non-stop hundreds of e-mails on their computers.
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:44 PM
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8. I will give him minimal credit for the canned reply.
It is safe to assume that Mr. French has brought attention to a professional office that it could have done without. The concerns expressed to the State Bar may spell more trouble for Mr. French. The action they take, if any, will be a part of the public record.
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fishface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:39 PM
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5. Yo desi..!!
wazzup?? LOL
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:45 PM
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10. Hey fish...

..at least these guys replied...you got mail..
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:41 PM
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6. Complain directly to the bar association.
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 03:41 PM by AP
I probably won't get you anywhere, but I do believe that state bar associations actually do care about how lawyers conduct themselves in their private life.

I wouldn't be surprised if you read through the code of conduct for his state and found and ethical rule or two that he has violated.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:06 PM
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14. I Got The Same Reply
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:12 PM
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15. It's a form letter, or the guy just has a remarkable knack for
repeating himself.

I got the EXACT same one.

Nice to know they care... :puke:
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:25 PM
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16. Maybe contact the bar association, ethics violations
get him disbarred
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:57 PM
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17. Oregon State Bar Contact page
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:13 PM
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19. I wrote and received the same email.
Are we making a difference? :shrug:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:17 PM
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20. look at the answer i got
was sittin in this thread when i got my email. i started my post having an opinion is one thing, lying another.

Ms. ,



Thank you for taking the time to contact our office with your comments/concerns about Mr. French. I want to begin by saying that, while I do not personally share the opinions expressed by our prosecutor, all of our employees have the right to their own opinions on these subjects and to express those opinions in their own time. I believe that this is what happened here. Sometimes good people just honestly disagree. It is particularly difficult when it is on subjects that are so important to our nation and our community. Thanks again for contacting the Clackamas County District Attorney's Office.



John S. Foote

Clackamas County District Attorney

bah ha ha ha haha

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