MoDo says Clintons are planning a Shakespearean Coup

[RamboLiberal]

While Obama was spending three hours watching “The Dark Knight” five time zones away, and going to a fund-raiser featuring “Aloha attire” and Hawaiian pupus, Hillary was busy planning her convention.

You can almost hear her mind whirring: She’s amazed at how easy it was to snatch Denver away from the Obama saps. Like taking candy from a baby, except Beanpole Guy doesn’t eat candy. In just a couple of weeks, Bill and Hill were able to drag No Drama Obama into a swamp of Clinton drama.

Now they’ve made Barry’s convention all about them — their dissatisfaction and revisionism and barely disguised desire to see him fail. Whatever insincere words of support the Clintons muster, their primal scream gets louder: He can’t win! He can’t close the deal! We told you so!

Hillary’s orchestrating a play within the play in Denver. Just as Hamlet used the device to show that his stepfather murdered his father, Hillary will try to show the Democrats they chose the wrong savior.

Her former aide Howard Wolfson fanned the divisive flames Monday on ABC News, arguing that Hillary would have beaten Obama in Iowa and become the nominee if John Edwards’s affair had came out last year — an assertion contradicted by a University of Iowa survey showing that far more Edwards supporters had Obama as their second choice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/opinion/13dowd.html?hp

I don't completely buy it, but I do confess Hillary and especially some of her die-hard supporters have me nervous.

[Catherine Vincent]

1. Anyone that believe that tripe are IDIOTS. nt

[Wetzelbill]

4. MoDo is often very good

But she's highly stylized, and when she is off she is very off. And not only that, she is flat out weird about the Clintons. Bizarre stuff.

[Captain Hilts]

63. MoDo's let her hatred of Hillary get the best of her. Up your dosage, Mo. nt

[ronnykmarshall]

83. Same goes for those that post it.

This place is more and more like primary season everyday and no one does a damn thing about it.

[salguine]

108. Are you kidding? There's NOTHING I wouldn't put past the Clintons. Hillary

says Obama isn't a Muslim "as far as she knows," knowing full well how that comment will be interpreted. She states, on national television, that McCain would make a better President than Obama. Hillary Clinton is a fucking snake whose personal ambition is literally bottomless, to the point where, during the primaries, I think it literally drove her insane. The same goes for her old man; I don't believe there's any depth to which they wouldn't stoop, not anymore. Say what you want about President Bush—he's a douchebag, but at least he stays loyal to his people, even when it costs him politically. Bill and Hillary Clinton will throw one of their own under the bus without a moment's hesitation if it's politically expedient to them.

[TexasObserver]

112. Hill and Bill aren't planning a coup ... as far as I know.

They're going to get to be big time on Tuesday and Wednesday nights, but they'd better be on their best behavior and have their troops in line and dancing to the Obama tune on Thursday night.

[AdHocSolver]

113. Long before MoDo, I have been pointing out the Clinton "strategy" months ago.

The Clintons will try to steal the nomination, and if they can't do that, they will sabotage Obama to elect a Republican in 2008 so that she can run in 2012.

The corporate power structure would be Ok with a Hillary presidency. Bill Clinton proved himself a willing stooge of the corporations when he was president. He vigorously pushed through NAFTA that cost American jobs, and he signed off on the repeal of the Glass Steagall Act which paved the way for the housing market boom and collapse which we are experiencing now.

Putting Hillary in charge of "health care reform", when she was relatively unknown and held no national political office, indicates to me that the Clintons were not serious about making any changes. Bill should have used the office of the presidency to rally the people and Congress for health care reform. Their inevitable failure merely emboldened the corporations that they could rip us off with impunity.

Moreover, it was the technology boom of the 1990's that gave us the economic growth of that period, not any particular policies of Bill Clinton.

The Clinton strategy is to degrade Obama's candidacy by sowing seeds of fear and doubt. They have already started to do this, and anyone who can't see it has their head up their a$$. They will send messages to the convention goers to question their confidence in Obama. Although just about any of the primary candidates are preferable to Clinton, she will promote the idea that she alone can beat McCain, so that the party has no choice but to anoint her the candidate.

This concept is absolutely wrong. Whereas Obama will get votes from independents and moderate Republicans, Hillary would bring these groups out in droves to vote against her.

Bill Clinton's popularity is overrated. He only won in 1992 because Ross Perot took votes away from Daddy Bush. Hillary is even less liked by many people. Her candidacy would almost guarantee a Republican victory or, at least, give them a chance to steal the election.

[Phredicles]

2. MDowd is a horrible, horrible person;

And Obama is not the naif she fantasizes him to be.

[polmaven]

104. Of COURSE he isn't!

He would not be in the position he is in...about to officially be named the Democratic party's candidate for president of the United States if he was.

What a bunch of crap she is spouting!

[GoesTo11]

3. Much correct analysis here

I have really been hearing more about the Clintons and the convention than about Obama. That is just not right. Fine, conventions often give the loser a consolation prize, but the convention is about the winner going on to win in November. Hillary should not do ANYTHING to detract from that. To the extent that giving her a group hug will help win in November, fine, but going around saying she should have won or she was the better candidate really, or the primaries were sexist, or white voters like Hillary, all that is just hurting the party's chances.

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[Frustratedlady]

18. I believe Dowd may be closer to the truth than some think.

Listen to the two of them. Listen very closely.

I'm not the only one. Many others feel the same way. It is almost as if they are feeling, "How dare he come from nowhere and win the nomination...not fair!"

Hillary is cagey, and she had a good teacher. She was the one who insisted on continuing with the primaries even though it was obvious she wouldn't win. She was waiting for things to change, but thank heavens they didn't.

It will be good to get past the convention.

[Wetzelbill]

25. She is

But she exaggerates it. Her writing is so stylized that she makes a parody out of kernels of truth.

[Marrah_G]

45. The primary is over. Obama has won. Hillary is campaigning for him.

Welcome to the land of ignore where you can fight your imaginary little war with the rest of the idiots who insist it's not over.

[TexasObserver]

56. it appears that Bill and Lady Macbeth are still scheming.

Fortunately, for us, Obama is McDuff.

[TexasObserver]

54. stealing the spotlight is what they do best

Like the class clown, their only purpose is to play "hey everybody, look at me!!"

[TahitiNut]

58. MoDo is nothing if not an ANALyst.

:eyes:

A more distorted worldview is hard to find not wearing a straitjacket. :shrug:

[here_is_to_hope]

5. Screw Modork....

A useless tool...

[JeffR]

6. I lost my admiration for Senator Clinton long ago, but

this is bilge. Alas, fairly typical Dowd bilge.

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. The Obama camp controls the convention, who speaks and the floor

Dowd is talking through her ass. When has she been right lately?

[JeffR]

14. Pretty much...

never.

[Bicoastal]

8. I simply don't believe she or Bill could be that vindictive and selfish.

However, if they DO try any of this stuff at the convention, they will be DEAD to me forever, and I don't think I'll be alone.

Forget 2012. Hillary wouldn't be able to run for Palookaville Dogcatcher.

[GoesTo11]

15. It's already happening

Some of the pre-convention coverage revolving around the Clintons is already negative for Obama and the party. The Clintons should douse these flames. They know how.

[barack the house]

96. There is nothing to gain for Clintons to revolt I believe all things are as they appear.

[question everything]

9. Pure trash

She needs to remind her readers that she writes original ideas.

The Clintons are not idiot. They understand that we, as a party, went through a series of primaries and caucuses and with the super delegates, Obama has the votes.

Dowd is an idiot.

[Arugula Latte]

10. Even the Clintons wouldn't try this ...

I think.

[cliffordu]

22. Right: "As far as I know."

[Mme. Defarge]

73. Self-delete

[ruggerson]

11. This is truly insane

and people who buy this shit are also insane.

[Beacool]

16. Modo stirring up shit and spewing venom, what a surprise.........

When is this nasty woman ever going to stop hating???

:puke:

[Barack_America]

17. The only thing I know is that I don't trust the Clintons...

Or Dowd.

[vaberella]

31. Ditto.

[scheming daemons]

60. Bingo..... I won't trust the Clintons fully until AFTER the convention, if they

haven't pulled any hanky-panky.


..and maybe not even then.


They burned all their trust chits with me during the primary season.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

19. Maureen Dowd has turned into a parody of herself

and a bad one at that. She needs to put down the freaking bong.

[OmahaBlueDog]

20. Even Hillary knows this has gone way too far for a convention coup

If this goes the way I think it will, Bill and Hill will give speeches

a) Touting their agenda/vision (of course)
b) Buffing out the primary campaign dings
c) Supporting unity and, by extension, Obama

Hillary needs the party and its supporters to clean up her finances. The party needs Bill and Hillary's starpower to raise money. Even if they don't raise a dime for Obama, they can still raise big bucks for the DCCC, the DNC, and yes, the DLC.

Having stated the obvious, all of this changes if an Edwards-like scandal breaks against Obama. If the Obama candidacy becomes wounded between now and Denver, then I agree that she will pull out all the stops, to take the nomination.

We will still have animosity within our ranks after the convention, but so will the GOP. nobody over there is thrilled with McSame -- he's just the best they could come up with at this time.

[dkf]

21. I have to admit that Bill Clinton's injecting himself and his discontent back onto TV

seems mighty suspicious to me. Looks like he got rewarded with a prime speaking spot.

[peaches2003]

99. Of course he did

[americanstranger]

23. Oh, GOD, she's such a freakin' idiot.

I'm not even a Clinton supporter, but that's just Grade-A garbage.

I can't believe she makes so much money for writing that crap.

- as

[TahitiNut]

65. Avsolutely everything I read of hers evokes the image of a grade-school ...

... "boy-hating" teacher's pet busily filling her diary with playground name-calling and self-inflated parodies of erudition. Her screeds are all misanthropic and completely absent the core humor and inner kinship of the greats like Dorothy Parker. MoDo obviously deludes herself into some contorted self-image that she's comparable to Parker ... but comes off as an empty parody.

[MarjorieG]

24. Not unreality to those of us from 2004, Bill praising Bush with eyes on 2008.

[brindis_desala]

26. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see

[Alter Ego]

27. MoDo is a moron and she's a fool for thinking the Obama folks aren't

aware of this--if it's even happening at all.

[OwnedByFerrets]

28. She may be right or she may be wrong, but the

BO camp better have a plan for both contingencies.

[WeDidIt]

29. The 2012 Gambit

She has nothing to lose.

[4themind]

55. Except her senate seat

Because she's up for re-election in NY as well, and I doubt she would or even could go for both at once. If that situation were to come up she'd be gambling on winning the presidency while giving up that seat. Hopefully Obama will win and she'll be able to keep what she has now.

[WeDidIt]

64. Did she ever really want her Senate seat

as anything more than a stop on the way to the big chair?

[high density]

30. Clinton doesn't have the numbers to do that

Gallup's latest open-ended "Who gets your vote for president?" question gave Clinton just 1%. The only people keeping this going are the PUMAs and the media types like Dowd that need a race to write or talk about. Clinton also likes it for feeding her own ego, but none of these things are going to change the outcome of what happens in a couple weeks.

[Rowdyboy]

32. Maureen Dowd is as full of shit as Dick Morris and about as politically significant....

[Rosa Luxemburg]

33. Tabloid

[Bucky]

34. What an imagination! Are we sure Maureen doesn't post in this forum?

[seasat]

35. Nah, the poll numbers don't support the idea, MoDo is full of it.

Chris Bowers over at Open Left posted a link to this poll yesterday. Gallup asked participants an open ended question of who you would voter for. In other words, they didn't rattle off a list. The results were:

Gallup, August 7-10, 903 RVs, MoE 4
Obama: 45%
McCain: 38%
Nader: 1%
Barr: 1%
Clinton: 1%
Other: 2%
None / Won't Vote: 7%
Unsure: 6%

An interesting point made in the analysis by Gallup was that about 1% of the "other" were other Repub candidates. In other words only 1% of the Democrats and Repubs want another person from their party. It also makes the case that third party support is low. There is no support for Clinton to try to snatch the nomination from Obama. The Clintons are smart politicians and know this. They've moved on and will support Obama. Dowd is throwing crap against the wall to see if she can generate some controversy to slow her declining relevance.

[geiger]

37. To be fair to "MoDo," she has done her best to warn Obama all along.

This is exactly what is whirling around in Hillary's head. We'll see how much of she gets up the cahones to go through with it. She did hesitate during the primary, after all.

[KoKo]

38. Well, then why has Obama allowed her to get away with it? That's what MoDo

keeps pointing out. :shrug:

[geiger]

40. She is very sardonic, nevertheless does mind making potshots, that Obama should not ignore. eom.

[leftynyc]

52. And how would you know what's in

Hillary's head? Your psychological analysis is as laughable and delusional as dowds. Your posts read exactly as a person who is trying to continue the primary wars. GET OVER IT ALREADY.

[polmaven]

105. How often do you

take jaunts into Senator Clinton's head to see what is "whirling around" in there?
:shrug:

[TexasObserver]

39. Seeing the Clintons will remind everyone why we don't want them on the ticket

Hopefully, Bill's speech will be the last time we have to hear from them.

[wyldwolf]

41. lol. You're setting yourself up for some severe disappointments

[TexasObserver]

43. I'm counting on Obama being elected

After which time, the Clintons will be far in the rear view mirror and inconsequential.


They may continue yapping after the election, but few will care. You can tell they're done by that 30 plus million debt. You'd think they could persuade that 18 million voters to send them $2 each, but they can't even get 180,000 to send them $2 each these days.

[Arkansas Granny]

51. I'm counting on Obama being elected, also. However, his election will not

make either or the Clinton's inconsequential since Hillary will still be a currently seated Democratic Senator and Bill will still be and two-term former Democratic President. Don't let your personal feelings toward them blind you to the fact that they are still influential members of the Democratic party and still have good favorability ratings.

[wyldwolf]

57. yeah, so am I

But the Clintons will never be inconsequential. Dream on.

[TexasObserver]

61. Yes, they will.

In twenty years, the only thing that will be remembered about Bill is his compulsion for adultery with sleazy women and his impeachment. The only thing that will be remembered about Hillary is that she lost to America's first black president.

Other than that, they will be inconsequential in history's recordation of them. Many of her primary voters will have died or forgotten the election of 2008 by then, and a new generation will have never heard of them.

[Beacool]

70. Your lack of historical perspective is only surpassed by your hatred for the Clintons.

Keep imagining things......

:crazy:

[wyldwolf]

75. yeah.. what you said.

[TankLV]

114. amazing, isn't it?!

The blind hatred that these id..ts have for her is simply astounding...

[PBS Poll-435]

82. Wow....you are really a class act

History will be very favorable to the Clintons.

The 90s represented an economic Renaissance in the US. Bush has destroyed most of the progress we made.

Bill Clinton will be regarded as one of our best presidents ever only as a contrast to what we got in 2000.




And you are despicable. Grow the F up, already

[paulk]

91. I can't believe the shit you post

"In twenty years, the only thing that will be remembered about Bill is his compulsion for adultery with sleazy women and his impeachment."

It's like I clicked on DU and ended up at Free Republic.

[TexasObserver]

97. pfffffttt is my one size fits all response to detractors^^^^

Say buh bye to Hill and Bill. They're history, thank God.

Now can we please focus on getting Democrats elected this year, and stop wasting time talking about a couple of people who aren't running? This is how the Clintons earn their bad reputation. They can never simply support the party and stop being attention hogs.

[Beacool]

69. Let me start laughing right now!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl:

[Marrah_G]

42. Why post this? Why keep trying to rip the scab off a healing wound?

[Tyler Durden]

46. Because they are ENJOYING it.

The GD:P debacle was so much fun for so many (mostly post 2004 people with some noted exceptions) that they do not want to let it go.

Plus, once you've completely demonized an opponent, it's like reverse "Stockholm Syndrome": staying with it is inside your comfort zone.

Worst of all, if they forgive and forget, they might just have to recant some of the absolutely dreadful things they've said and posted, and continue to say and post.

I like that. "Reverse Stockholm Syndrome." I'm going to keep using it.

Nice to see you by the way.

[Marrah_G]

47. You too!

:hug:

[Tommy_Carcetti]

44. Oh for goodness sake,

That woman has been off the reservation for a long time. She strikes me as a very petty and vindicitive person.

[Tyler Durden]

48. Why bother, Peter?

They're having so much FUN in the mud pit. Don't be a killjoy.

And no for the rest of you, no, I didn't leave off the :sarcasm: accidentally. I left it off on purpose.

[TexasObserver]

53. Some of us want the Democratic nominee for president to WIN

That's Obama.

Cheers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=106270

[psychmommy]

85. how is that possible?

i thought once you were ts'd the only way back was to sneak in with all new info.

[TexasObserver]

86. it just happened

a few hours ago

One too many hostile threads started, I suppose.

[psychmommy]

117. yay

i thought they were back from the dead.

[bvar22]

81. Are you referring to Hillary, or MoDo?

:shrug:

[BigDDem]

49. Dowd jumped the shark on this one.

[DFW]

50. The Clintons have no intention of trying to lose this election for us

Maureen Dowd has to get over her personal issues with the Clintons,
and get back to reality. One interview with Howard Dean would set
her straight. One interview with Hillary would set her straight, but
after all Dowd has written, I doubt Hillary would give her more than
name, rank and serial number at this point.

[Jakes Progress]

59. Look at what she can do.

Normally sane Democrats slathering for the Clinton hides. Motard comes home from some evening of partying with the elite and then pretends to know shit about anything in her biweekly spew. And because it is anti-Clinton, we get people saying "Whoa, she might be right". They don't learn. A year into the Obama administration, MODO will get her feelings hurt because Barack didn't come on to her (some say the real source of her Clinton vendetta) and start in on Obama. She is just coasting on some writing she did several (many) years ago. Paying attention to her is like considering Limbaugh as a creditable source.

[Beacool]

72. Bingo, you said it!!!

Modo perceives herself as being a femme fatale. She had her feelings hurt because she had the hots for Bill and he never looked at her twice. She directed her anger mainly at Hillary because she's got Bill and Maureen doesn't. She also dated Michael Douglas briefly, but he had enough sense to leave the nasty woman.

Maureen, still bitter, still single.......

:eyes:

[elkston]

74. I wouldn't mind dating her. :) n/t

[Jakes Progress]

80. Don't sell yourself short.

There are lots of really cool, really smart Democratic women out there. No one should have to put up with a professional hurter. The emotional baggage she totes around must take up two floors of her condo.

[Beacool]

101. Go for it!!!

Maybe if she got laid regularly it would soften her personality.

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[Lucky 13]

79. You know, what you said is really fucked up...

I'm no MoDo fan, but do you have any evidence besides made up bullshit that "...she had the hots for Bill and he never looked at her twice. She directed her anger mainly at Hillary because she's got Bill and Maureen doesn't."???

What you are doing is a neo-con technique... slander the source of the information and not address the information itself. This is the tactic of stupid people... or those that know they can't win an argument based on logic and fact.

It's a distraction and slander tactic 100%.

And also... I thought you Hill supporters were supposed to be hardcore feminists?! What the fuck does it matter if she's still single or not? Does being married increase your value of someone's opinion? Are you living in the 1950's???

Give me a fucking break.

[Beacool]

103. Oh, calm down.

It was common knowledge here in NY back in the early 90s that Modo liked Bill. She has been a catty b**ch to Hillary for years. So I don't care if it's PC or not, but Modo is one nasty chick.

[Lucky 13]

116. My what a lovely double standard you have!

Hillary and her supporters cannot be called "bitches" or have it be insinuated that they need a man... you guys would explode with outraged cries of sexism and misogyny.

But if a woman is against Hillary, then the rules of feminism are off. You can call them a bitch, make fun of them for not having a man, etc.

It's not about being PC. It's about blatant hypocrisy and irrationality.

[LostinVA]

62. That woman is a menace to the Democratic Party

[scheming daemons]

67. I agree... sometimes Hillary DOES act like a menace to the Democratic Party

[Chulanowa]

66. It's transferral

Dowd and her dumb-bunny media buddies are desperate to make the Democratic Convention look like a dog and pony show. WHy?

Because that's exactly what Ron Paul is planning to do at the Republican convention, and they need to suck attention away from that.

[DevonRex]

68. I agree 100% with MoDo on this:

"It would have been better to put this language in the platform: “A woman who wildly mismanages and bankrupts a quarter-of-a-billion-dollar campaign operation, and then blames sexism in society, will dampen the dreams of our daughters.”"

If she couldn't manage her campaign any better than she did, she certainly couldn't manage the government and the country.

The other stuff I have a wait and see attitude about.

One thing I learned about MoDo, much to my chagrin, is that she was often right about the Clintons and I was often wrong. I still think she has a "thing" about them and never sees anything good in them. Nobody is all bad or all good.

[Teaser]

71. MoDo huffs Silly String

She writes fiction. She just uses really names.

[riskpeace]

76. I find her hatred of Hillary to be very bizarre.

In my opinion, it's become a joke and borders on irrational projection of some very unpleasant demons. I hope she gets help soon.

[bvar22]

77. Elements of truth wrapped in a web of speculation .

*

[PBS Poll-435]

78. Looks like MoDo is huffing spray paint again

She had so much potential...

[PVnRT]

84. ...and MoDo continues her hatred of everything Clinton

She did this when Bill was in office, and it has continued. Hillary is not this dumb. If she were to do this, she would have no chance of uniting the party and winning. She has an ego like any other politician, but she's also not stupid.

[PresidentObama]

87. Another Clinton smear. Great n/t

[Skip Intro]

88. Good Lord. I hope modo's family sees that she gets the treatment she needs soon.

[apocalypsehow]

89. Like you, I didn't buy it - right up until the point I read some of the PUMA replies. NOW I buy it.

n/t.

[paulk]

90. does Mo Dowd work for the RNC

or does it just seem that way?

[BlooInBloo]

92. The best summary of MoDo ever. Excellent for the naive....

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/8/13/10433/1626

"I still run into old friends occasionally that not only think Maureen Dowd is a good columnist but that she is a liberal and uses her column to advocate for the Left. Without fail, these friends are busy people that have not spent the Bush years reading alternative media and blogs. They're somewhat like Democrats that were trapped in amber sometime in 2000-2001, just before the rise of the Blogosphere. They have puzzled about why Dowd spent the last three months of the 2000 campaign writing about how horrible Al Gore was as a candidate, but then they remember those zingers she put down on Dick 'Big Time' Cheney and his geographically-impaired sidekick. Ooh...that felt sooo good.

This is a message to my old friends trapped in amber. Maureen Dowd doesn't root for Democrats. She uses her column to mock Democrats, drive wedges between Democrats, and to reinforce negative stereotypes about Democrats. Yes, she is somewhat irreverent and she does her share of blasting Republicans. Occasionally, when her righteous ire is up, she can really let the Republicans have it. But you can start a count now. It's August 13th. Dowd does two columns a week. If she doesn't take any time off, she'll write thirty-three more columns between now and the election. I guarantee you that the majority of them will not be helpful to the cause of Barack Obama. Today's column is about as unhelpful as it gets. "

[AtomicKitten]

93. PUMA founder/spokesperson prefers a McBush/Clinton ticket.

PUMA Hillary Supporters Hold Closed-Door Convention Strategy Meeting
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diane-tucker/puma-hillary-supporters-h_b_118522.html

Posted August 12, 2008 | 02:10 PM (EST)

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than 250 diehard Hillary supporters were scheduled to meet this weekend at the Marriott Wardman Hotel here to plan their convention strategy. The group's online spokesperson said that the meeting, "PUMA Conference 2008," was "closed to media of any kind."

PUMA stands for "Party Unity, My Ass" -- a coalition of voters who believe the Democratic Party primary process is deeply flawed and that Democratic Party leaders have underestimated the seriousness of opposition to Obama. The group rallies around the conviction that Hillary Clinton was forced out of the race by party insiders and unfair news coverage, and members look to the day when a national watchdog of some sort would point out and combat sexist reporting in the media. (Take note, NBC and Maureen Dowd.)

It's clear PUMA is looking for Hillary Clinton's name to be placed into nomination at the National Convention, but which convention -- Democratic or Republican? PUMA founder and spokesperson Will Bower told the Huffington Post in June that even though he has been a lifelong Democrat, if Hillary's destiny is to become vice-president, then he would prefer a McCain/Hillary ticket.

Is PUMA really prepared to be part of a McCain victory?

Seeking the answer to that question, I roamed the halls of the Marriott Wardman Hotel Saturday looking for the PUMA Conference, doing my best Michael Moore "Roger and Me" impersonation. "No PUMA conference is registered here," they told me at the front desk. They allegedly told a Hearst reporter the same thing a day earlier. There are no reports yet on what PUMA may be cooking up for the conventions.

Today I received this email from Bower: "The conference was moved to a new location. We made an agreement with all our participants that we would treat the proceedings as confidential. There was a great deal of information that was generated that our members want to disseminate to their colleagues in their own way."

[barack the house]

94. I think we should take it a face value and Hillary is campaigning for the nominee.

[barack the house]

95. Media is always trying to divide us wiser to believe our own eyes Hillary is helping.

[ronnykmarshall]

107. NO

The DU'er that still post this shit and can't get over the primary are helping.

[AtomicKitten]

98. dead-enders insist Clinton is taking it to a vote

As posted on caphill:

MY 15 SECONDS WITH HILLARY
by Angelo Kanis

snip ... When Senator Clinton finished her speech the crowd again erupted as she walked down the steps and started to talk to people in the crowd along the security railing. She took the time to speak with people not just brush by them with a handshake and a smile. When she got to where I was standing I shook her hand and asked her to please put her name into nomination for the convention in Denver. Senator Clinton looked right at me and said "We are definitely taking it to a vote."

When I asked if she had gotten the 300 signatures she needs on the petition, the senator again looked me right in the eye and said "We are taking it to a vote". I thanked her for all she has done and she thanked me for my support. It was a brief conversation, about 15 seconds, but its one I will never forget.

http://www.nobamanetwork.com/hillaryclinton.html

[mitchum]

100. She writes like a goddamn high school girl

[MasonJar]

102. Mo Do hates the Clintons and was brutal to my man Al Gore. Enough said.

She is useless!

[Name removed]

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[Thrill]

109. Hillary and some of her supporters do have an agenda...whether we want to believe it or not

The real question is why can't they just move on? For goodness sakes, they were in power of the Dem party for almost 20 yrs.

[Stephanie]

110. Well I guess it's okay if YOU say it...

[Butch350]

111. Where were you doing the writers strike?

There is much more to worry about before the GE than the clintons.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

115. Kookoo.

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[WinkyDink]

118. That worked out really well for Hamlet. So what's her point?

[Donald Ian Rankin]

119. MoDo wrong.

[Spazito]

120. Gee, it looks like MoDo was wrong, even she didn't predict...

the Clintons would get a row-call vote and Hillary's name put up for nomination.

[SidneyCarton]

121. Paranoia strikes deep...

Into your heart it will creep.
It starts when you're always afraid,
Step out of line, the man comes,
To take you away.