MSNBC is trashing Obama

[Madam Mossfern]

and I tuned into them because they would be less harsh. I guess they don't like intellectual answers.

[annabanana]

1. No one in corpomedia is real big on intellect, period. . .. . .n/t

[WCGreen]

4. Because it can't be dumbed down to a three word slogan or

played out in pretty pretty pictures...

[Madam Mossfern]

It seems that CNN

is less negative about Obama, that's a switch.

[LSparkle]

2. Yep, we have a become a nation that disrespects INTELLECT

We have become a big, DUMB, CONSUMPTIVE nation.
We don't value work -- we only value WEALTH.
We don't value intelligence -- we only value
APPEARANCE/pandering.

I really, really, REALLY don't want to live
here anymore ...

[chitty]

7. Watch Idiocracy.......

It is very prophetic.

[Thrill]

3. Two Repukes. And no Dem reps. What do you expect?

[FrenchieCat]

5. I am not watching MSNBC......unless a voice a sanity in on.......

[RamboLiberal]

6. I went to CNN but just switched back to MSNBC

they are back to their prison shows.

[Pisces]

8. McCain won the evening and spoke to most Americans watching with the tone they

wanted to hear. Obama is much more sincere and honest, however, that does not make for good theater.

[Drunken Irishman]

10. So Obama should come out with a 40 and half his shirt tucked?

Sit down with his legs spread part, grab his crotch, burp and laugh at the fat guy's beard?

Ok.

[Better Believe It]

17. No: He Needs To Talk To The Working Class People

And if he hangs out enough with working class people he'll learn how to communicate effectively with us.

And that doesn't mean talking down to people.

Obama does need to learn better communication skills that appeal to the tens of millions of people who did not graduate from college, much less Ivy League schools.

[Raine]

18. What Obama needs is some

short effective sound bites and use them over and over again, thoughtful answers are getting him nowhere.

[Better Believe It]

19. Powerful "Sound Bites" That Appeal To The Masses Of People

I agree.

[highplainsdem]

30. Thoughtful answers are fine as long as they also include good sound bites. The old rule applies:

"Tell them what you're going to tell them, tell them, then tell them what you told them." Sandwich the careful reasoning between two good sound bites.

[pilar007]

22. Sorry but I disagree....

Obama should be nothing but himself. His communication skills are fine. This forum was in one of the most republican counties in California. McCain was in his element. I do not understand why one would want a dumbed down president.

[liberal1973]

38. I agree

Obama was great last night. :patriot:

MSNBC yesterday was full of it. They had the group called women's independent forum on. This group is as far right as you can get. They're big time fundies.

They were oddly with Pat Buchanan giving analysis on Obama. This far right group is being paraded around as if they're some non partisan group.

[Drunken Irishman]

26. I'm working class and I think he's talking to me just fine.

[Cosmocat]

11. Spot on ...

McCain won the evening playing with a home field advantage ...

Agree that in general, and specifically with the crowd at hand, having some black and white good vs evil approach is more "appealing" than BO's process oriented style ...

[JackORoses]

31. McCain won nothing. This was his crowd and Obama made inroads.

McCain has to hold all these voters just to have a chance.

Obama just has to peel off a few percent and he destroys ol' Five-Plane.

[liberal1973]

39. I disagree

Obama was great last night.

The audience was a fundy audience.

5,000 of the tickets went to the people who goes to the mega church. The mega church is a far right church.

[Captain Hilts]

9. MSNBC preferred Obama to Clinton but McCain to Obama. nt

[Sidney J Mussburger]

23. Why is that? nt

[liberalmuse]

12. Turn on CSPAN-Sorry, it just ended

The callers are interesting, and most see through McCain's stump speech.

[Pryderi]

13. Warren allowed McCain to repeatedly launch into stump speeches, whereas Obama

gave true, thoughtful answers.

[gblady]

27. so true....

I couldn't beleive how much Warren let McCain run the show...

[mahina]

14. Didn't you get the script? Jeez!

McCain=decisive.

Obama=waffling.

Come on man.

Seriously though, it was disgusting. Thanks guys for telling us what to think! We need a one dimensional microcephalic so he doesn't confuse us.

Eeesh.

[Ichingcarpenter]

15. Man, I love that picture of a real body surfer

I used to live in HANA for two years.

[mahina]

24. Beautiful Hana...

do you know Patrick Robinson?

[mahina]

25. Oh I love it too,

enough to remove my old sig photo and replace it. Nice little wave yeah?

[vaberella]

36. I love the pic on the far right, it reminds me of his H.S grad pic with his grandmum and granddad.

[MarjorieG]

16. Obama gave thoughtful answers to tough, moral questions. Regular policy debate will be easier......

to present the political and policy, but the after story, the reffing will be just as slanted. I remember seeing the Kerry debates differently than commentators.

McCain's glibness was inappropriate tonight, but mods would prefer anything McCain.

[Yavin4]

20. Video of MSNBC's Analysis of Obama

Pretty telling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3Yiiphkrqw

[democrat2thecore]

28. Shuster was right. McCain did well tonight by hitting the bullet points

It wasn't a college class with Obama as the professor, but that's how the campaign decided to play it. McCain played it as a politician and clearly won. I disagreed with everything he said - but he was clearly more effective tonight. With that said, I agree with those who say it's disgusting the event even took place.

edit: double word

[rucky]

35. Insightful.

Dr. Lexus should replace Sanjay Gupta.

[MissDeeds]

21. It boggles the mind that this event

ever took place. To think that two presidential candidates would be questioned, interviewed, grilled - whatever - by a religious leader is absurd. Both were reduced to pandering to the 'faith based' crowd. It diminishes all concerned.

[Buddy Tess]

37. Why is that....

...after all, they BOTH proclaim they're Christians. Why should either man be worried about explaining their positions to a predominantly Christian audience?

[AllentownJake]

29. MSNBC is viewed on a good night for them 1,000,000

On a night that the Olympics are on I'm guessing their ratings are lower. This event was watched by Politicos and maybe Fundies. For that Obama did what he needed to do.

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[Pryderi]

33. "CAN I TELL YOU ANOTHER STORY, SO I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?" Will the media continue

bashing Obama today?

[chitty]

34. The funny thing is

that if you read MSNBC account of last night, most, I think, would say that Obama had the better night.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26220920/