Why are people freaking out?

[JohnnyCougar]

Obama did a great job, and McCain gave a bunch of phony, canned answers meant to rile up the crowd. All that did was get a rise out of people that were already supporting him. Any independent observer still on the fence could see right through that.

The guy is a dipshit and a sleek, temperamental politician. The independent callers after the forum were trashing him.

[BeatleBoot]

1. Freaks tend to do that

:rofl:

[woo me with science]

2. People enjoy freaking out

and manufacturing conspiracies.

Obama did very well in a potentially hostile situation. People just like to hyperventilate.

[Bicoastal]

3. Because we momentarily forgot the audience wasn't a typical debate audience...

...and we're worried how it could look to someone seeing it out of context, which is how most news stories are presented these days.

[patrice]

9. I did think they were just regular folks. So it upset me when they liked Crash so much.

[madeline_con]

4. I recorded it on the DVR. I'' watch it and get back to you.

I'm a die hard ObamA supporter, but I'll try to be impartial just for the show. See ya in a bit :hi:

spelledit

[Drunken Irishman]

5. Democratic Underground: Freaking out since January 2001.

[Nikki Stone1]

6. That's as true a statement as there ever was, Irishman.

:hi:

[Whisp]

12. heh. that got me a genuine belly laugh. nt

[woo me with science]

17. LOL. Perfect. nt

[gblady]

24. A-men!

[dorkulon]

37. ZOMG YOUR WORSER THAN HITLER!!1!

:freak:

[patrice]

7. Yeah! That story about the Viet Namese gun gaurd SUPPORTED War Resisters!

That gaurd went AGAINST his orders to follow Jesus.

[gateley]

8. I think there's a legitimate concern that McCain won some of those

pesky, elusive evangelical votes he seemed to have trouble securing. Should we not care?

[JohnnyCougar]

10. No.

McCain certainly isn't going to win any more evangelicals than Bush. Yet the more he panders to them, the more he turns off moderates and makes himself look like another Bush.

As far as I'm concerned, he can go right ahead with this strategy. He made plenty of surprising statements tonight that no independent would be fond of.

[XemaSab]

25. The moderator asked them both what being a Christian means

Obama gave an answer; McSame gave an anecdote.

(spelling)

[Supersedeas]

36. but will those who watched the Olympics instead see the distinction

[skids]

11. Some people just need to run around screaming...

I am surprised McCain went into so many stump speech segments, frankly. Every one of those people in the audience, and any potential Obamacans, likely heard a lot of those lines in the primary and knew it was a canned response. I think that will resonate (in Obama's favor) with a lot of people.

[patrice]

13. Buchanan was orgasmic on MSNBC and that scared me too!

[Phredicles]

22. Man, I didn't need THAT image rattling around in my head...

:scared:

[patrice]

34. Sorry!! It's the truth. I thought I was going to have to wipe the TV off.

Sorry! X 2

But it's something I've been thinking about when I do watch MSM (which isn't very often - really). What we're getting is a bunch of mental masturbation.

[flamingdem]

14. People tripped out because the audience went "wild" for McCanned n/t

[Thrill]

15. McCain just looked and sounded like Bush tonight. I'm not worried

[Median Democrat]

16. Some Pespective - Obama Just Went Into The GOP's Backyard and Did Fine

What if I told you that Obama was about to go into one of the most Republican cities, in one of the most Republican counties in the State of California? Wait, before you answer, I also tell you that he will be asked questions by an Evangelical pastor in front of his congregation?

Well, Obama just did that, and he came out of it with Rick Warren calling Obama a friend and vouching for the fact that Obama is a Christian, and this alone probably made the whole trip worth it.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/polisubs_0100.pdf

County of Orange:
Republicans: 596,475
Democrat: 384,983


City of Lake Forest:
Republicans: 15,776
Democrats: 7,758

So, Republicans probably outnumbered Democrats by at least two to one, since we are not even talking just Lake Forest. We are talking an Evangelical Church in the City of Lake Forest.

[AllentownJake]

26. Seeing that they all were members of the church

Who paid 500 to 2000 bucks to get in I think it was 95% to 5% advantage McCain.

[dkf]

18. Lots of flip flop video in there.

When he gave that answer about torture, I couldn't figure out if he was talking about supporting torture or being against it.

[otohara]

19. MSM Spin Will Kill His Performance

just after it ended MSNBC talking heads all agreed McCain had his best night EVER.

Obama never had a chance to please this crowd, they didn't like him and still don't. - this preacher is supposedly different - his flock, same old brainwashed fundies who only care about 3-4 issues.

[AllentownJake]

27. MSM media would have spun it as a great night for McCain

if he walked out on stage and shit on the American flag.

[Life Long Dem]

20. Attack attack McSame!!

Especially if we are going to have canned answers for the remaining events.

[Erin Elizabeth]

21. I agree, Obama did a great job.

And even if McCain knew the questions in advance (or even if they both did--whatever), he still was inconsistent, ran out of energy 15 minutes into it, was repetitive, and boring.

Imagine if he was truly having to answer on the spot!

[Honeycombe8]

35. McCain won the night (which was a given), but Obama did himself some good.

Bravo, Obama! He did what he needed to do....put to rest any fears among the evangelicals that Obama is the anti-christ, someone to be feared,.....and maybe, just maybe, someone to run to the polls to vote against in November.

He was never going to win over an audience of Republican evangelicals, but I think he may have put to rest enough of their fears that they may not run to the polls in November to vote against him. Good job. (And, BTW, his answers seemed to be truthful, and not just a show.)

[screembloodymurder]

23. I didn't watch, but I've got to wonder how the Obama camp

allowed their candidate to be roped into the corner. Why didn't they insist that the candidates be on stage together? Why allow McCain to go last? When your candidate is leading, you dictate terms or you don't go.

[AllentownJake]

28. Obama is a Christian and not a Secret Muslim

was the point. They have nice videos of Obama talking about his faith with a prominent Christian Pastor.

The fact that this was scheduled during the Olympics on a Saturday Night a week before the VP announcement and 10 days before the convention was dictating our terms. If the pastor had his way he would have picked another time I'm pretty sure for the max exposure of his church and himself (he sells books)

McCain won the coin toss so he went last.

McCain and Obama on a stage together in front of a crowd of Fundies would not have been a good thing.

[JohnnyCougar]

31. Roped into the corner?

See, this is exactly what I am talking about. I think the forum worked out great for Obama.

I don't think team Obama really thinks they are going to win this election by flipping evangelicals. What they can do, however, is force McCain to play defense in this area, which turns off moderates. This is exactly what happened tonight.

Obama wins.

[AllentownJake]

32. Chess vs. Checkers

McCain says King me Obama says Check Mate.

[RNdaSilva]

29. Agree, some are only happy when they're unhappy.

[Barack_America]

30. Because most Americans choose to stay home on a Saturday night...

And watch a political discussion instead of pre-season football and/or a historic Olympic night.

Oh yeah, and that same majority of Americans who choose a political discussion over drinks and sports also refuse to think.

:eyes:

[babylonsister]

38. Huh? Saturday is date nite! And if the majority of Americans are

choosing a political discussion over the Olympics of football, I'd say they're making an informed choice right there, so they're thinking about something.

[Barack_America]

39. I should have added the sarcasm smilie, perhaps?

It seemed to me that the uproar tonight was the assumption that a lot of low-information voters tuned into the Faith Forum instead of the blockbuster sporting events that happened last night.

I think that's pretty unlikely. The people who don't think much about politics and religion (i.e. the people who would buy into the BS that McCain was selling last night), were most definitely NOT watching in large numbers.

That was the convoluted point I was trying to make. ;)

[babylonsister]

40. Oops!

:hi: I couldn't tell; your rolling eyes were staring at me! ;)

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