Order of Preference for VP: Bayh, Biden, Kaine

[jefferson_dem]

Poll question: Order of Preference for VP: Bayh, Biden, Kaine

Of course, we do not know for sure but these are the three that are rumoured to be on the short list. Rank them (1-2-3) in terms of who you would most like to see as VP to the one you would least like to see as VP.

[ravishane]

1. Kaine, Bayh, Biden

I don't like Biden anyway. Haven't since he rapidly defended (with Chuck Schumer) Janet Reno and co.'s murder at Waco. And I certainly don't like the idea that Obama needs to shore up some military expertise (makes himself look weaker) and that is all Biden is there for. Biden is clearly the most establishment of the three. Of course, if you simply want to win the election, then Biden might be the best because he appeals to so many pro-military jerks.

[nevergiveup]

4. I guess I "simply want to win the election"

If Biden means McCain doesn't become president then Biden is my guy.

[ravishane]

6. I just think he provides a guaranteed win

The other two provide probable wins (in part because of the geographical possibility in Virginia).

I am not one to just vote against John McCain. Barack Obama is the first mainstream Democrat that I have ever supported and who I actually want to win in a positive way. Joe Biden tarnishes that a great deal for me. He might as well pick Clinton then!

[nevergiveup]

23. I totally understand your feelings

I want so much for Obama to win I have in a sense sacrificed some of my principles which is never a good thing but screw it, this time my principles will have to wait until after the election.

[KoKo]

2. none of the above...n/t

[wisteria]

3. None of the above. I don't care for any of them. n/t

[Clark2008]

5. None of the above.

[ravishane]

7. Do you NOTAs

have a different boring white guy in mind? Or going somewhere else? (Keep in mind that I didn't look at your names and see who you may have said before--sorry). I am under the impression that a boring white guy is necessary. A Virginian or even a Hoosier adds a possible state (Kaine seems most likely, esp. if Warner is giving the keynote).

[Smarmie Doofus]

8. It would appear that we don't like Bayh much,. nt

[Supersedeas]

9. Bayh doesn't even rate--Hillary before Bayh any friggin day--Bayh is a non-starter

[ravishane]

10. this is pathetic

How can so many of you fall for Joe Biden? Do you know how instrumental he was in training Bosnian Muslims in the 90s? Ever heard of blowback?

He supporter the Iraq war FROM THE GET-GO and always wanted more soldiers like Johnny Mc. People like him because NOW (!) he wants out of Iraq (with partitioning--good luck).

Jesus H. I am not saying that Bayh and Kaine are necessarily better on this issue, but there are other reasons I prefer those two. If Biden is liked so heavily here for some stance on this war, then that's pretty ridiculous.

[Dinger]

11. Wasn't Bayh A Co-Sponsor Of The IWR?

Kiss his ass goodbye.

[Dinger]

13. Obama + Biden = Two Sitting Senators = Change? NOT

Kiss Biden goodbye.

[ravishane]

16. yes

And I admit that the main reason I prefer Bayh to his kindred spirit Biden is because I live in Indiana and would actually like to have a chance to not be in a state so overwhelmingly red AGAIN.

[Alexander]

27. Yes but the DLC shills here like to ignore that part...

Because it's all about winning, dammit, even if it means putting a thinly disguised neo-con in the Executive branch.

:eyes:

[NorthCarolina]

12. None of the above. Russ Feingold, Sherrod Brown, Wes Clark

eom

[Dinger]

14. I Agree. Any Of The Three Above = An Obama Loss In November (nt)

[ravishane]

17. Well . . .

a strong yes on the pie-in-the-sky picks Feingold and Brown. But how in the hell does the warmongering Wes Clark get on your list? That guy is near the bottom of mine.

[NorthCarolina]

21. Well because it appeared as though I needed to list 3 and

at least Clark is moderately gay friendly unlike Bayh or Kaine. He would be a DISTANT third choice, but in retrospect I probably should have listed Sebelius as my third choice. Pie-in-the-sky pics? Who knows, afterall the Obama campaign did float the mention that the pick would be "out of left field". That can be taken different ways for sure, but I am hoping that it was in reference to the pick coming from the field of liberal/progressive left candidates.

[ravishane]

15. and why remove either strong senator

from the Senate? I know that Delaware's gov. is a Dem, but Biden would seem best suited to state exactly where he is.

[TwilightGardener]

18. Bayh is doing well right now on FTN. He's a good surrogate.

[JTFrog]

19. Obama = Better Judgment. That doesn't mean picking a Senator who voted for or cosponsored IWR.

[Mass]

20. Among those three, two of them will give something to the GOP

Kaine would be replaced by his GOP Lt Governor in VA.

Bayh's replacement would come from Indiana Republican governor.

Biden is running for reelection in blue Delaware. However, if he is chosen for VP, I am not sure what his the status of his seat (can he run both -- and do not tell yes if you do not know. CT laws may not be the same as DE--, does the local Democratic Party get to find a replacement for the seat,...).

Why give something to the GOP if we can avoid it.

[Independent_Voice]

30. If Biden became V.P.

There'd be a special election, eventually. A Democrat would probably win, since the Republican bench isn't very deep in Delaware. I don't know the timeline for the special election in Delaware.

If the Governor appoints a replacement, then Ruth-Ann Minner (Dem) would point a pre-election replacement...if it's a post-election appointment, Lt. Gov. Carney (also Dem) is favored to win and thus do the appointing.

The only way the seat could become permanently lost to the Dems is if Mike Castle somehow finds a way to wiggle into Biden's seat through election or appointment.

[Motown_Johnny]

22. Biden First, Bayh Last, Kaine an after thought

[jefferson_dem]

24. Biden, Kaine, Bayh dominates.

:)

[mmonk]

25. I wish Bayh could be taken off the list.

[nsd]

26. Bayh, Biden, Kaine.

I'd be happy with any of these guys. I think they all have strengths.

But, even though he's not popular on this board, I'd (narrowly) give the nod to Bayh. I think he comes across on TV as calm, reasonable, and knowledgeable. His resume is good enough to blunt the experience argument, but not so long that it makes Obama's look bad by comparison. His moderation, in both policy positions and temperament, dovetails well with Obama's promise to move America beyond the partisan bitterness of the last eight years. And his vanilla, Midwestern image helps counter the Republican attempt to make Obama seem foreign and scary.

[Awsi Dooger]

28. Kaine, Biden, Bayh

Virginia dramatically changes the map.

All things being equal I'd prefer Biden.

Bayh wouldn't guarantee Indiana, is hopelessly dull and overly moderate, and I can't see him as a viable candidate to replace Obama in 2016. After 8 years of one-party rule you need someone special for the voters to choose that party again. Bayh doesn't threaten to qualify. The only way he could prevail is an '88-type scenario with the outgoing president very popular and voters willing to give his successor the benefit of a doubt vs. a vulnerable challenger.

[Independent_Voice]

29. I'm not enthused about any of them

Bayh is underwhelming and has a pro-war voting record.

Biden is a loose cannon.

Kaine is too socially-conservative with very few pro-change credentials to his name. Obama would do much better with Sebelius or Richardson, if he wants to run with a Governor.

So my order would, very reluctantly, be Bayh-Biden-Kaine.

I could tolerate Bayh or Biden on the ticket. Kaine -- no way, no how.

[goodgd_yall]

31. Of the three

I only like Kaine as VP. Biden I have mixed feelings about. Others who I thought would be good picks have since been taken out of the running, I think, like Dodd and Clark. I like Schweitzer, but I don't think it's his time yet (I'm looking forward to his running for president in 2016).

[gateley]

33. I love the idea of Schweitzer running in 2016! nt

[goodgd_yall]

35. Yeah, sounds good, doesn't it? n/t

[gateley]

36. He's speaking at the convention -- so more Americans will get a chance to "meet" him! nt

[Phoonzang]

32. Bayh, Biden, Kaine nt

[gateley]

34. Biden, Kaine, Bayh. nt

[xtychx]

37. Kaine, Biden, Bayh N/T

[blue_onyx]

38. Biden

Between Kaine and Bayh, I don't have a preference of who would be my second and third choice. I think Biden would be a good VP but I'm still kind of hoping for a surprise VP that hasn't been talked about much.

[saltpoint]

39. As others have indicated, I'll take what comes but of just those 3,

I like Biden first, Kaine a respectable second, and Bayh a couple lengths back.