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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:30 AM
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I am sick and fucking tired of hearing about McCain's POW experience
Seriously, is this what McBush is going to base his fucking campaign on, something that happened over 30 years ago? How many times did he bring up some anecdote from his POW days during last night's fundie-fest?

Sorry, but just because he was a POW doesn't mean that he's qualified to be President!
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:32 AM
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1. Me, too. I honor it. I understand what a hero he is, and what a sacrifice he made.
But it gets old hearing about it over and over, year after year. And it's unseemly the way he pushes it out there with almost every speech.

It was a million years ago, and while it should be honored, it really has NOTHING to do with being qualified to run the country.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:35 AM
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2. A contrast.....
McCain was a POW for 5.5 years and falls back on that horrible period of his life every chance he gets; has no problem discussing it. In fact, he seems to revel in it.

My grandfather, who fought in WWII, saw some horrific things at Tarawa. He came home and couldn't even bring himself to talk about them. He carried those memories as a heavy weight on his shoulders until he died.

My granfather's response to the atrocities of war is appropriate. McCain's is not. There's something sickening about what he's doing.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:46 AM
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5. a friend who was a Navy Seal in VN never spoke about stuff. Except tall tales. He loved
spinning yarns. It was obvious they were tall tales and we always wonder what the kernel of truth in the stories was.

The only thing I can remember that he ever said that was just a statement of fact was how disgusting towns smelled from the fermented fish oil they used.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:48 AM
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7. I may be wrong, but I've always felt the true heroes
didn't boast about their past.

My best friend's Dad was a Congressional Medal of Honor recipient, and he never wanted to talk about how he earned it.

I never to this day forgot that.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:50 AM
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8. You're not wrong.
True heroes have a sense of humility. John McCain doesn't know the meaning of that word.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:41 AM
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3. I saved a fisherman from drowning in a riptide 35 years ago,
but that doesn't qualify me to be Commandant of the Coast Guard.

McCain is overplaying his hand.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:43 AM
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4. get used to it. It's gonna be a lonnnnng autumn
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:48 AM
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6. It is interesting how he was old enough at the time to make that the defining experience of his life
Yet when he was older than that he was too immature to keep his marriage vows before God.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:51 AM
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9. I am suspicious
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 09:54 AM by CitizenPatriot
because most of the people I know who have suffered a trauma of that nature do not want to talk about it at all. It was usually the posers who took up the group time talking about it (I worked briefly as a counselor). I never saw anyone use that event to get pity or pride. People do process things differently, and I am not a psychologist, but there are common traits in liars. And I see them in McCain.

I you follow the link in my signature line, you might begin to rethink this whole hero line we've been sold.

and just for good measure, isn't Obama a hero? Grew up without a dad and got himself into Ivy League school? Aren't many of us heroes in our own lives, having overcome illnesses, poverty, abuse, etc to be here?

I know plenty of real heroes and they never talk about it. Honor would prohibit a real hero from taking "credit" and bringing it up constantly. It simply rings as false.


I also agree with the previous poster-- why wasn't his biggest moral failing cheating on his wife while she was recovering from a horrible accident that left her disfigured? You would think someone who had been tortured would have compassion and empathy, no? If that wasn't his deepest moral failing, then what was? The fact that this wasn't his lowest move should scare everyone. And why didn't he talk about Keating 5 scandal? That wasn't a low? No, the truth is he hasn't had a moral crisis because he doesn't have any morals to fight with. He made up an answer that revealed no "weakness" and only showed him to be a hero. In doing so, he lied to the public AGAIN.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:52 AM
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10. Here's what I want to hear about Air Pirate McCain's POW experience. If he signed a confession that
the US was guilty of war crimes, and he says they tortured it out of him, how can McCain flip flop on torture like he did?

Is he now admitting that the treatment he received resulted in him giving good information about his air piracy?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:15 AM
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11. Look for some 527s who think McCain was a traitor while POW to start doing ads
Let's just say that McCain's POW "experience" is in question.

Ask Bob Dornan.


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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:27 AM
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12. I worry about him being president
BECAUSE he was a POW for so long.
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