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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:46 PM
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The Ralph Nader Effect: Bad for Republicans?
Edited on Wed Aug-27-08 11:47 PM by Better Believe It

The Nader effect: Bad for Republicans?
August 27, 2008
Themorningcall.com

Ralph Nader, pursuing yet another run for president, isn't exactly a blip on the radar in battleground states. On the contrary, Nader is polling between 6 and 8 percent in Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada, a new Time/CNN poll shows.

A depressing sign for Democrats? Not exactly. Nader appears to be pulling almost all of his support from potential John McCain voters.

In Pennsylvania, for example, Barack Obama leads McCain by just 5 points (48 percent to 43 percent) when voters are asked to choose between the two, but 9 points (47 percent to 38 percent) when Nader is thrown into the mix. Nader gets 7 percent.

Maybe the Obama campaign should be helping to keep Nader on the ballot.

http://blogs.mcall.com/penn_ave/2008/08/the-nader-effec.html

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Does Nader hurt McCain in PA?
By Wally Edge
August 27, 2008
Politickerpa.com
In addition to showing U.S. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) with a 5 point advantage (48 percent to 43 percent) over U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), today's TIME/CNN poll also suggests that Obama's chances in the Keystone State may be boosted by the presence of third-party candidates on the ballot.

When voters were asked to choose among Obama, McCain and three third-party candidates, the Democrat's 5 point lead grew to 9 percentage points.

Obama leads McCain 47 percent to 38 percent, while independent candidate Ralph Nader attracts 7 percent of the vote and Libertarian candidate Bob Barr drew an additional 1 percent.

http://www.politickerpa.com/wallyedgepa/1513/does-nader-hurt-mccain-pa



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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:48 PM
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1. I wonder what's different now?
:shrug:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:53 PM
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2. It has to be a (racist?) anti-Obama vote. They unhappily vote McNutso unless
given another choice.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 10:34 AM
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3. Not Necessarily
Nader got a lot of independent, radical, socialist and Republican votes in 2004.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:18 PM
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6. I'm trying to grapple with why he pulls so much away from McNutso this time.
He hurts McCrash a lot worse than he does Obama. I just don't see radicals & socialists voting for McDork in the first place.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 10:38 AM
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4. More confirmation! Go Nader, go Barr! Pull those votes from McClueless. nt
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:27 PM
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5. Ralph Nader Candidacy Helps Obama Expand Lead Over McCain!

NBC/WSJ Poll: Obama keeps lead over McCain
Voters see Democrat as riskier pick, but rival has negatives of his own
By Mark Murray
Deputy political director
NBC News

After embarking on his highly publicized trip overseas, Obama enjoys a 47-41 percent advantage over McCain, which is unchanged from last month. The survey was conducted of 1,003 registered voters from Friday to Monday, July 18-21, during Obama's overseas trip. It has an overall margin of error of plus-minus 3.1 percentage points.

But Obama’s lead over McCain expands to 13 points when third-party candidates Ralph Nader and Bob Barr are added into the mix — with Obama at 48 percent, McCain at 35 percent, Nader at 5 percent and Barr at 2 percent.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25816799 /

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Could Third-Party Hopefuls Foil McCain?
AOL News

Polls show Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama running close in the presidential election. But could third-party candidates siphon votes away from McCain, much as Ralph Nader was blamed for doing to Al Gore in 2000? The idea has been floating around for awhile, and this week's NBC News / Wall Street Journal poll underscores the possibility that such candidates could hurt McCain.

According to the poll results, Obama had a 6-point lead over McCain, even though most respondents thought he was a riskier pick for president. But when voters were asked to factor in two other candidates -- former GOP congressman Bob Barr, who's running for president as a Libertarian, and Nader, who's running as an independent -- Obama's lead opened up.

Here's how MSNBC summarized it: "... Obama’s lead over McCain expands to 13 points when third-party candidates Ralph Nader and Bob Barr are added into the mix — with Obama at 48 percent, McCain at 35 percent, Nader at 5 percent and Barr at 2 percent. However, it’s important to note that the pro-Obama (48 percent) and anti-Obama vote (adding up to 42 percent) is consistent with the result from the two-way match up."

http://news.aol.com/elections/article/could-third-party ...

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PolNewf Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:27 PM
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7. I think it is
Dems that won't vote for Obama showing up as a vote for McCain in a head to head poll, but given another option they take it.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:30 PM
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8. It proves how much people hate w.
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 05:32 PM by mucifer
I think it's like people from Minnesota voting for a wrestler or Californians for arnold s. People have had enough and there are some repubs who will NEVER vote for a dem and they will give their vote as a protest to Nader.
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