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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 10:59 AM
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"Risks" of Invesco event worry top Dems
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 11:16 AM by Guy Whitey Corngood
http://news.yahoo.com/s/denverpost/10319911

By Charles Mahtesian Politico
Thu Aug 28, 4:29 AM ET



Senior Democratic officials are expressing serious concerns about the political risks posed by Barack Obama's acceptance speech at Invesco Field at Mile High tonight.



From the elaborate stagecraft to the teeming crowd of 80,000 cheering partisans, from the vagaries of the weather to the unpredictable audience reaction, the optics surrounding the stadium event have heightened worries that the Obama campaign is engaging in a high-risk endeavor in an uncontrollable environment.

A common concern: that the stadium appearance plays against Obama's convention goal of lowering his star wattage and connecting with average Americans and gives Republicans a chance to drive home their message that the Democratic nominee is a narcissistic celebrity candidate.

"We already know he is a rock star; we already know he can bring 85,000 people together in a stadium. He has done it multiple times. He needs to talk to people who haven't made up their minds yet," said Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen.



I don't know who these supposed senior Democratic officials are. But at this point he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. These assholes are always going to find something to talk shit about. I say do what you gotta do and fuck these overpaid media hos.


Edited to add " " to risks.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:00 AM
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1. The Tennessee Gov needs some balls!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:03 AM
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9. He has them. He is being overly cautious.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:04 AM
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11. He's got the balls - just wrong on this one
I like him a great deal, he's just wrong on this one. He's probably echoing common sentiment from the voters in Tennessee and what they've expressed throughout the campaign, but he's wrong to bring it up in this context.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:01 AM
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2. BOLLOCKS. This is the time for Obama to knock it out of the park, not the playground.

Let McCain have his half filled room of 10,000.

Fuck him.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:01 AM
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3. The same ones that sabatoged Kerry, no doubt n/t
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:01 AM
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4. Presidential inaugurations are outside, Fourth of July concerts....
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 11:02 AM by kansasblue
what ever!

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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:02 AM
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5. It worked for JFK in 1960
when he held his at the Memorial Coliseum in LA.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:52 AM
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32. Let's hope it works a lot better for Obama
Kennedy won the popular vote by one tenth of one percent (0.1%).
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:02 AM
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6. um... why, may I ask, are you posting this obviously fabricated BULLSHIT???
:wtf:
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:03 AM
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7. What about all the whining and bellyaching by top Democrats - will that hurt his chances?
:eyes:
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:03 AM
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8. THese people never win anything. Therefore, they don't have shit to say
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:03 AM
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10. I haven't googled, but are the DLC dems by anychance? n/t
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:04 AM
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12. Of course the dumbass Governor of Tennesse. Does he ever do anything
but criticize fellow Dems?
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:05 AM
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He certainly does - but he's wrong on this one
Don't get me wrong, he's wrong to characterize this in these terms. But he's a good governor in a politically crazy state.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:04 AM
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13. This is from Politico.com -- when will people get it through their heads that politico is
a RIGHT WING operation????
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:13 AM
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26. Well that's the whole point of the post. No matter what he does somebody's going to have
some manufactured concern. That's why he just needs to say fuck it and hit it out of the park as someone else said.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:04 AM
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14. The biggest risk I can see is some nut case manages to get
a gun into the stadium. To a lesser degree there will be a group of nuts who will try to disrupt his speech.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:05 AM
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15. The only people who should be afraid are Republican
It's going to be a really GOOD speech and an exciting night
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:05 AM
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16. He needs to "connect to the people" by doing a small, exclusive event?

That makes ABSOLUTE sense when spoken by a Beltway hermit, maybe.

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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:05 AM
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17. Top dems wring hands news at 11
those are the same dems that forced the "safe" choice on us last time around. cause Dean was too radical.

I will pass on their judgment.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:06 AM
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18. Correction: "Risks of Invesco event worry Dem Gov of TN"
:eyes:
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:09 AM
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22. Exactly. n/t
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:07 AM
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19. MORE LIES, The CLINTONS DON'T BACK HIM LIES
"Sources say"...LIES
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:08 AM
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20. All I keep hearing about is the "Greek" set and not about the speech
Even if the goal is to be inspiring it's coming across as if he's doing the messiah thing. Personally I think he should just have a normal stage without all the hoopla, he would still pack the place.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:08 AM
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21. That's an old quote from Bredesen - its completely out of context in this circumstance
I just remembered I have seen this quote somewhere else. It appeared in an interview in the New York Times two or three weeks ago. I'll look for the link, but this quote has NOTHING to do with the stadium event this evening. Bredesen was talking about Obama connecting to the voter on a smaller scale, getting out and pounding the pavement and getting in front of the people hurt most by the last 8 years.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:11 AM
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23. The fact that they're opening this up to everyone should tell us something. it goes
with this whole theme of openness and participation. That scares the shit out of Repigs.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:30 AM
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27. I agree, but Bredesen is just covering his ass in Tennessee
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 11:30 AM by TornadoTN
He doesn't have to worry about re-election, but the next Democrat will. He's just playing devils advocate, which is a necessity for Democrat's in this state - sadly enough.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:12 AM
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24. Obama already has explained why he's doing it this way
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 11:12 AM by zidzi
and again when he went on stage with Biden after his fantastic speech.

He wants more of his supporters to be able to enjoy their historic victory and handwringers and Greedy Obfuscatin' Pundits can eat shit and wallowing in their own jealousy.

People like Phil Bredeson don't think big and aren't part of the campaign.
But, ain't so that there'll always always be worry warts?
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:13 AM
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25. "cheering partisans" - It's a fucking party convention!
Bredesen needs to STFU. Does he think that Obama will not deliver with his speech?
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glancingthefuture Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:38 AM
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28. DK is OK with it.




..........Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio also sounded a confident note about the political impact of the forum, asserting that it will prove Obama's message has wide resonance.

Bredesen also said that while he has concerns, Obama is a virtuoso performer who cannot be underestimated.

"They have got a great track record so far," he said. "I would love to see him out showing a certain kind of humility, being in touch with people who go to breakfast at the Waffle House, sending a message."
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:39 AM
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29. Senior Democratic Officials = Carville and Begala
Carville was in his Pumas.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:39 AM
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30. This story is more propagandist BULLSHIT
We are sooo worried because we can't find a staduium big enough to hold the crowds that support Obama/Biden. Yea, Right.

In the mean time McCain can't give away tickets to his VP announcement.

It really sucks to be a Democrat :sarcasm:
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:41 AM
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31. I heard that they're having trouble filling up the Repig convention. n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:54 AM
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33. I have HAD IT with this MOTHERFUCKING CONCERN in my MOTHERFUCKING PARTY!
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 11:59 AM
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34. They need to chill have a Sam Jackson beer and fuckin' calm down.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:01 PM
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35. It's a little late for that *now*
which makes me wonder what the point of saying it is. :shrug:
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:02 PM
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36. It must be genuine concern.
:shrug: No probably not.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:12 PM
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37. Bredesen sounds like a McCain mouthpiece.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:13 PM
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38. Bredesen gripes about everything and everyone. All the time.
He just gripes.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:22 PM
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39. I heard that BS on CNN this morning
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