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Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 03:52 PM by Peace Patriot
A good portion of the vote theft was probably accomplished in the new, Bushite controlled, 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY code, electronic voting systems, that were fast-tracked across the country between 2002 and 2004, covering about 80% of the country's vote counting systems. (I think it's more now--close to total Bush corpo-run vote count--although some of the 100% unverifiable systems (touchscreens) have now been replaced with 99% unverifiable systems (optiscans--which have a ballot, but nobody counts them*), so that, in the event of a recount (fat chance), half the country's voting systems could comply.
The 4 million vote (3%) flip comes from Stephen Freeman (who makes a very convincing argument, based on turnout 2000-2004, demographics and registration). It is also corroborated by the real exit polls, which showed a 3% Kerry win, and were then doctored, in absurd ways, to conform to the results produced by Diebold and brethren. (See www.TruthIsAll.net.)
Presuming that the fuckwad Corpos did not put this non-transparent, unverifiable, extremely insider hackable voting system in place all over the U.S.A., just for the billions in profit to the rightwing e-voting magnates, and that they intend to use to it for four more years of torture, death, looting and plunder, I'd say, at minimum--based on 2004 turnout (120 million voters)--we need 4 million (and better yet, 6 to 8 million) more votes than the machines are programmed to discount, to overcome their 3% 'thumb on the scales'--just to win, not to get the mandate that we really have--and that is also presuming the flip stays at 3%. Also, the country added 20 million voters between 2000 and 2004. (The Dem grass roots did an awesome job, beating the Bushites nearly 60/40 in new voter registration, in 2004.) (Where did all those votes go?). So, if we add another 10 to 20 million voters, that figure would be the higher range--for the kind of extra votes we need to beat the machines (and other crap they might pull).
If you guestimate the Dem/Obama voters for this year at 80 million, and keep the bar high--for the fraud margin that we need, at 8 million (twice that of 2004)--you get a nice round figure of 10%, as the margin to shoot for. We need 10% more votes than they do, to compensate for their fraud, and get a comfortable win. (I'm not sure how this translates into a needed turnout percentage of Dem registered voters--the question you asked. I don't know current reg figures. And why limit it to Dems? Independents and former Nader voters voting overwhelmingly for Kerry in 2004. Also, the best, most undetectable place for them to flip votes would be in Repub precincts and counties. I did some stat work on CA 04 and I think they stole a lot of votes in Repub counties in CA--both Repub votes for Kerry, and votes by the Dem minority in those places. GOTV should be aimed at all voters. The bigger the vote, the better for the Dems).
Will they risk a bigger flip? Hard to say. But the reality is: Who's to stop them? I think we have an advantage in that these election theft machines have to be pre-programmed, meaning the dark lords have to guess how much Obama is going to win by. They might guess wrong, or mess up in other ways. And some of the worst abuses--such as voting machines hooked to corpo HQ by internal modem--have been reduced. The 1% paper trail (audit-counted paper), in half the country's systems, is also something of a deterrent (but not much of one). AND the public and activists are now MUCH more aware of what's going on than people were in 2004, and there will be more monitoring and analysis.
There are some other factors that have improved, due to new DNC and other vigilance. For instance, Greg Palast estimated that one million black voters had been purged from the voting rolls prior to the 2004 (s)election. There will be less of that crap, I presume. (If all the votes that were flipped and all the votes that were suppressed are added together, Kerry didn't just win it, he won it by a landslide.)
There is also the possibility that the Corpos will permit Obama to win. This would involve their judgment of many profit/loss factors--including the potential for outright revolt by the American people, the bad economic picture for the Corpos in places like South America (where the new leftist governments, that now cover the continent, are swiftly moving toward a South American "Common Market," not including the U.S.--so a period of Obama niceness might be required to get our Corpos back in), how far they think they can push the U.S. military machine to do their resource-grabbing, their long range goals (such as crashing the economy on Obama's watch, blame it all on him, and bring in Hitler II in 2012). We don't know what their plans are. Ask Christopher Dodd (Bilderberg Group, e-voting engineer, along with Tom Delay and Bob Ney). Ask Howard Ahmanson, nutball rightwing billionaire behind ES&S (brother to Diebold), who wants homosexuals executed. Ask the sheiks of Araby--they own us.
Really, it's up to them, very unfortunately. Tragically. Appallingly.
I think there's a chance we can outvote the machines. But the "close polls" have me spooked--as to their readiness to reverse whatever size landslide Obama wins. If they can doctor the exit polls, as they did in 2004, and get away with it (by ignoring or marginalizing the analysts who caught it--calling them kooks and tinfoil hat, etc.), why can't they be dicking with the opinion polls now, as prep for Election Theft 2008? Five rightwing billionaires now control all news and opinion in the country. As we have learned, they can say and do whatever they goddamn please. The leap from the exit polls then, to the opinion polls now, is not that great. They may even have a plan--the successive, escalating steps needed to control the American people--guiding them on how far they should go (and need to go, and dare go), at each step. The fact that Karl Rove and Bob Novak are still running around tells you something about their audacity.
All I can say is, the more votes, the more donations, the more volunteers for Obama-Biden, the better are our chances of, a) beating their election theft machines, or b) spooking them with our revolutionary potential, and getting them to back down and acquiesce to at least a short period of good government. I do think that the Corpos are somewhat divided about this. The not nuking Iran thing makes me think that there are at least some SANE people in our Corpo/political establishment, and/or some who realize that war, after a certain point, becomes bad for business.
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*(About half the systems are totally unverifiable. In the states that do any audit at all, they only count 1%. That's one-tenth what some experts say is needed to detect fraud. In Venezuela, they use electronic voting, but it is OPEN SOURCE (not 'TRADE SECRET') code, and even then, they handcount a whopping 55% of the votes, as a check on machine fraud.)
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