The Palin choice stinks of a Rovian trap

[kristopher]

Obama is being hammered on inexperience as his 'weak spot'.

Palin is that in spades.

Every attack on Palin is therefore an attack on Obama.

After a few weeks Palin withdraws and someone else (Kay Bailey H?) steps in.

Obama is screwed.

[GarbagemanLB]

1. No, this is the ticket. If she withdraws, how would that reflect on McCain's decision-making ability

[Bicoastal]

2. You're overthinking this. Sometimes a transparently bad pick...

...is just a transparently bad pick.

[Auggie]

5. Yeah, but who would have thought w had a chance against Al Gore?

Stolen election or not.

This selection worries me. It really does. People vote so myopically.

[Virginia Dare]

13. You're right. I remember when we said that about..

Harriet Miers. When we all said what the fuck is this? And all of a sudden, poof she was gone. Then they slipped old Scalito under our door.

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. Oh NOOOEEEEESSSSS!!!!111!!!

:eyes:

[glowing]

4. It takes experience out of the debate... It puts vision for the future into the

debate and McCain's vision is shitty.

[kristopher]

9. That is the tack that should be taken.

But it isn't going to be the that is. Look at the threads here; the underlying message is "Nothing but a pretty face". Sounds sort of in tune with the celebrity theme to me.

[Median Democrat]

6. Use Political Judo - Even McCain Thinks That Years In Washington Are Not Important...

However, look at her extreme views, and they are still just as wrong whether they come from McCain or Palin. New face, same old discreditted Bush/McCain/Palin platform.

[OmahaBlueDog]

18. There ya go....

That's another great way to come back at this trap

[NJmaverick]

7. I think you let Rove get inside your had

Obama- the best eduction a person can get

Palin- A BS in journalism from an average college

Obama- Experience as a community organizer, management experience running large community ogranizations, running the Harvard Law Review, being an IL legistlator and 3+ years in the Senate and has traveled the world.

Palin- Year and a half as Mayor of Alaska and she was 1st runner up at the Miss Alaska Beauty Pagent

Obama- A brilliant man with a natural gift of leadership. Sacrificed wealth to help others

Palin- Former pot head

[Drunken Irishman]

8. Uh, what you said would deliver Obama the election in a 50-state landslide.

Let's just say McCain picks her then takes back that choice because she is inexperienced. What the hell does that say about his leadership and judgment? What does that say about loyalty? It would SINK his campaign faster than you could say Thomas Eagleton.

[kristopher]

11. She has 5 kids. How hard is it to find a reason to drop out? nt

[Drunken Irishman]

20. Oh please.

It would finish McCain off.

[OmahaBlueDog]

10. First, No - she's the pick. Second - don't be scared

It is a trap. The key to danger is knowing how to confront it. You don't attack her experience.

- You attack her education (BA in Journalism from U Idaho)

- You act as if she will become President. You emphasize that McCains age makes it likely she'll become President

- You wonder aloud why more qualified GOP women weren't picked, given McCain's age


Otherwise, you keep hitting like Obama did last night in the speech -- 8 years of what we've had already isn't the change we need to solve our problems.

[kristopher]

15. Agreed. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

23. Disagree with

-- You wonder aloud why more qualified GOP women weren't picked, given McCain's age

This argument would illicit the response that again asks why Hillary wasn't picked... The pick was to basically (in their twisted minds) put up a "female" version of Obama, but one who is far to the right. It's ugly politics but for them, it has worked in the past. This was a pick that had actually been recommended by Limpalls not too long ago and tuning into him this afternoon when he first came on, he was ecstatic. So the wingnut bloviaters will have McLame's back.

The problem for them is that McSame has yet to distinguish himself from Shrub and does not have a "change" agenda - it would be 4 more years of the same thing. In addition, the pick was an in-your-face slap at women in an attempt to play off of their own manufactured claim of "massive division" of the party over Hillary.

I think Obama has to stay on message vs McSame (and not Palin) and not be distracted by the Dark Sith lords hurling inanimate objects.

[OmahaBlueDog]

27. Point granted, but how about this

Obviously, if experience was the issue Senator McCain has made it out to be, he might have picked Elizabeth Dole or Kay Bailey Hutchinson. Given that a 72 year old who has fought cancer twice has picked Governor Palin, experience must not mean that much.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

12. LOFL. Well, I got it anyway.

[dionysus]

14. ...

[rucky]

16. that works both ways.

[mohc]

17. I'm convinced the Rovian plan is actually...

...to have us all laughing for so long at this ridiculous selection that we all forget to vote. Otherwise I do not see how this pick could possibly help McCain.

[murray hill farm]

19. Good one, mohc

Gave me another good laugh today.

[Overseas]

21. No. Palin's experience is ALASKA ONLY. Obama's served on a national

and international stage.

[raebrek]

22. Senator Obama is not running again Governor Palin.

He is running against McLame.

on a side not and completely unrelated topic. Bill Mahr was on the tonight show the other night and he was talking about Senator Clinton talking about Senator Obama only having a speech and that he stole it from his buddy in Wisconsin. The Bill went on to say that it had been going on for years and that Reagan had stolen a speech by Eisenhower that stole it from Roosevelt who stole it from Lincoln who stole it from McCain. :rofl:

Raebrek!!!

[LSK]

24. no, Palin pick is the RESULT of a Rovian trap with the PUMA's

McCondo believed the hype and this was his result.

[lukasahero]

25. If you think Obama's "lack of experience" is comparable to Palin's

you really need to do more homework. Palin has only 1.5 years as governor of a state with a population of ~670,000, a few years as mayor of a small (it's Alaska - that's an understatement) town and a few on city council.

Don't fall for the RW/M$M spin. She IS inexperienced and a (very likely) heartbeat away from "leader of the free world". To quote my beloved Senator Kerry "Are you kidding me?"

[JDPriestly]

26. Palin is intended to please the fundamentalists.

Small town America is wonderful. I lived in small towns. They are the heart and soul of our country -- but do I want someone to have their finger on the nuclear trigger whose main experience was to serve as one of six members of a city council in a town that claims to have population of 6,715? No, No, and No.


Palin is really a bad choice. Her international experience cannot possible match that of either Obama or Biden.

I think that the Republicans are writing this election off and trying to prime Palin for the future, trying to give her a start on a future run and maybe a run for Stevens' seat in the Senate. Palin is not a serious choice for VP. She is basically a homemaker who served part-time in municipal offices. I say that because even if she was in her City Council/Mayor's office 8 hours a day or more, the amount of work involved in running a town of 6,715 (the press reported 8,000) is not that great, especially if you have a secretary or receptionist to handle the phones, a police department, a fire department, etc. It's work, but most of it is is probably detail work, not big picture work.

Some information about Wasilla, Alaska where Ms. Palin was mayor:

Population 6,715
Educational Facilities Mat-Su Borough School District
Mat-Su College/UAA Campus
. . . .

Total Area 8,458 acres
City 700 acres
Borough 150 acres
State 140 acres
University of Alaska 40 acres
Private 7,428 acres
. . . .

mics
Total Local City Annual Revenue $12,695,563 (I did not make this up.
. . . .

No. of Business Licenses 1,249

. . . .

Public Water System City: serves 746 customers
Public Sewer System City: serves 523 customers

. . . .
Police City Police Department: 21 officers
including chief and communication officer

http://www.cityofwasilla.com/index.aspx?page=49

[woolldog]

28. I don't think so.

Her dearth of experience makes Obama look experienced by comparison. Remember she's almost completely unknown and only has 67 days to get known. Obama has been campaigning for President for 2 years, he's been on the national scene since 2004. The inexperience argument was already losing steam b/c it seems like Obama has been around campaigning forever.