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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 01:42 PM
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I had an interesting visit with another Kerry supporter today who
not only was encouraging but gave me some food for thought. She was discussing Rush Limbaugh and said that she had done alot of research into his childhood. After a few comments, she said, "what an angry man." I threw the comment out there "why do you think he's such a jerk"? Her response, (granted, she's a social worker) was that he NEEDS someone to lead that "appears" strong because of his father who abandoned him at a young age and a cold mother. She also said that she thinks the reason alot of people throw their support behind Bush, when obviously Kerry's policy are better for them, is because that alot of these people are "wounded spirits" who come from abusive families and have not ever dealt with the issues that surround abuse, which has deep roots. She said they look for dominating leaders to replace what they NEVER had as a child, or on the other extreme, dominating, controlling figures was ALL that they KNEW as a child. These people are usually ones who have never formulated their own opinions and allowed others to "control them." I know my sister who is a fundie got married young, married a religious man who now is a baptist minister and we rarely speak, because she thinks I'm "such a sinner for my liberal ways." She lives her life in a "fish bowl."

While I know that some of this may seem like a "no-brainer" to most of us, for some reason, it struck me in a different light. I don't see Bush as a strong leader, mainly 'cause I know his history (and he's full of shit) when he was governor, but for appearances sake, those who see him strut his bow-legged strut and chant, "you're either for us or against us," and all the other DUM things that he says to make himself appear stronger than he really is appeals to that type of mentality--not allows, but most of the time.

Thoughts? :shrug:
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 01:49 PM
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1. Strong MIS-leader
I think her take makes sense. They seek an authority figure and let the details be damned.

I have always thought that much of the terror alert stuff is a kind of inducement of the Stockholm Syndrome, especially when they make the argument that Kerry can't clean up the mess that THEY made.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 01:58 PM
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4. Yep, and to pound it home the way they do
is because it's all they have. Maybe when the debates roll around and people actually see a strong leader against a very weak and "propped-up" leader, the tide will turn stronger. Rove doesn't want Bush next to Kerry though, 'cause he KNOWS who the stronger leader is and his ass will be history.

You know, we've heard this mantra--Bush is a strong leader--for so long I had tuned it out, but now that I think about it, that IS all he has to run on--even if it is a LIE! No wonder they keep pushing this crap. For those of us who KNOW HE'S REALLY A PUPPET in a broader scheme of thing, it makes sense now why he has a stronghold with that group of voters...
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 01:51 PM
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2. Did you hear
that Lush is dating the CNN screed/witch Daryn Kagen? Wonder if she will be no. 4. No wonder her reporting is so disgusing.
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lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 01:57 PM
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3. Well, then there is such a thing as "evil."
:shrug:
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 01:59 PM
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5. that was mentioned in the conversation too
and we weren't just talking about Rush either;)
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:04 PM
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6. I see it as stubbornness
What a lot of people see as strength I see as being stubborn. He refuses to change on anything even if he should. But he people like that about him. Especially the pro lifers because he sticks with it. He reminds me of the type that would hide his head and cover his ears if you tried to tell him anything he didn't want to hear.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:08 PM
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7. no doubt
"the type that would hide his head and cover his ears if you tried to tell him anything he didn't want to hear." He does this on a day to day basis.

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