McCain was bombing women in a lightbulb factory when shot down

[AnnaLouise]

Sarah Palin was 3 years old when John McCain,
engaged in bombing
women in a Hanoi light bulb factory, was shot down.
No woman who advocates the bombing of women, children, elders,
soldiers, pets, animals of all kinds, birds, plants..
is a supporter of the rights of the world's women.

When he was shot down, McCain was engaged in breaking
the promise of Franklin Roosevelt to Ho Chi Minh that in return
for fighting the Japanese, the Vietnamese right of independence
would be honored.


McCain's father was the navy admiral in charge of the
war crimes.. the genocidal bombing of Vietnam.

He also participated in the mass lie to the American people..
the Tonkin Gulf Resolution.. ...a black op done by American
military and blamed on the Vietnamese

In this he joined FDR in the treachery of not preventing
the bombing of Pearl Harbor after breaking several Japanese
codes... the Bush Cheney Bush lie of yellow cake in Iraq
etc etc.

Palin's husband is an employee of British Petroleum. Alaska and
the US government have allowed a foreign company to control
some of the oil in Alaska. BP as Anglo Iranian Oil with Churchill
bombed 9000 Iraqis to death in 1920 and BP is still involved in
theft of Iraqi oil in
Mosul and Basra. It was a BP oil engineer (then known as AIO)
who drew the boundaries of Kuwait to take the richest oil
territories from Iraq.
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=6965360

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It is tragic that McCain suffered in prison...May God erase
the painful memories.

Does he not see that his suffering was directly related to
his having in 27 different flights dropped burning death
on living people?

When Republicans say the war is unpopular, they are not saying
that the people of America are sovereign in our country.

The people of the United States of America not only
want no wider wars. The people of
... America want an end to all wars

[NYC_SKP]

1. We need more posts like this... nt

[Spiffarino]

2. No we don't

It's pretty much a bullshit rap sheet on FDR. I don't know about Grandpa McSame's bombing excursion, but the other stuff is sheer crap.

FAIL!

[NYC_SKP]

4. We need more dirt on dirty McCain. Not a bunch of f'n Panic Posts. nt

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. The FDR stuff is mixed -

We HAD broken the codes before Pearl Harbor. There is no evidence, however, that there were any interceptions that would have tipped us off before the attack. Even if there were, however, knowing the Japanese codes, and them not knowing we knew them, was in the long run very important, and any general warning prior to Pearl Harbor would have tipped our hand, prompting them to change their codes and possibly changing the course of the war.

As for FDR's promise to Ho Chi Minh, that is true. It is also true that FDR died before the end of the war, and the anti-communist State Department is who broke his promise.

[Spiffarino]

9. The deal with Ho Chi Minh was true

The scurrilous lie is that it was FDR who broke his word. Thanks so much for pointing that out.

[midnight]

3. This is an interesting concept........

Does he not see that his suffering was directly related to
his having in 27 different flights dropped burning death
on living people?

John McCain's plane goes down while dropping bombs on working women.

No more war. No more men like John McCain.

[Billy Burnett]

5. He had to stop the spread of commie light bulbs. It was a heroic mission.

:sarcasm:

[invictus]

6. K&R

[the48er]

8. That is NOT What McCain Was Doing When Shot Down

I'm sorry for being harsh, but to the best of my knowledge the "light bulb" assertion is wildly incorrect.

Here are the pertinent facts as I understand them (if I'm incorrect please post appropriate corrections):

In the summer and early autumn of 1967, McCain flew 23 missions over North Vietnam in connection with Operation Rolling Thunder. Rolling Thunder killed at least 100,000 (estimates vary) North Vietnamese civilians despite U.S. efforts to minimize "collateral damage."

To put that in perspective, North Vietnam's population was then about 17 million. So a proportionately lethal campaign against America (2008 pop. +/- 305 million) would kill roughly 1.8 million U.S. civilians -- about 600 times the number of deaths America suffered in the 9/11 attacks.

McCain's final Rolling Thunder mission in particular was morally problematic. On October 26, 1967, he flew one of 20 planes that attacked the Yen Phu power plant in central Hanoi. The plant had previously been off-limits to U.S. bombers because it was feared that bombing it could cause "collateral damage" -- but the pilots had the go-ahead to drop their bombs anyway. Defenders on the ground shot off one of McCain's plane's wings, after which he parachuted into nearby Trúc Bạch Lake. He was pulled from the lake, put in prison and, unsurprisingly, treated badly.

[totodeinhere]

10. I wish that were true but I don't think so.

The people of the United States of America not only
want no wider wars. The people of
... America want an end to all wars.

The people of America like wars just fine as long as they don't last too long. When we first went into Iraq more than 70% of the American people supported it.

[DustyJoe]

11. Perpetuated Myth

Does anyone really think McCain had any command in what the targets were ?. The bombing was micro-managed by politicians in DC and they gave the target list to commanders in the field. As far as breaking FDR's promise, well then the 3,000,000 plus who served in the 10 years of the war I guess are all war criminals. I turned 18 2 months before I was shipped to VN and believe me had no say in where I was going and what I was going to do.

Get back to the real point !. Yes McCain is a veteran, yes he was a POW. His problem is that he uses this as his excuse to get out of any controversy and to try to get RW sympathy for his plight 30-40 years ago., and that is WRONG !. His prior service in no way gives him any credence or experience in the office he is seeking, but he uses it every time he opens his mouth. Plus of course his 'My Friens' just makes me climb a wall every time I hear it.

[glancingthefuture]

12. Knocking his service is NOT the way the Dems win.

[Statistical]

13. MASS FAIL.

MASS FAIL.

Just about everything in that statement is a lie.
1) FDR didn't allow Pearl Harbor and is a well respected American leader, trying to diminish him will only backfire.
2) FDR didn't "lie" he died. It's his fault US-state department pursued policies after his death?
3) Admiral McCain was promoted in 1968 (8 months AFTER John McCain's capture) and thus wasn't involved in the decision making.
4) Prior to his promotion Admiral McCain was in charge of PERSONNEL in Pentagon.
5) As a personel officer (paper pusher) he had absolutely nothing to do w/ Bay of Tonkin.
5) McCain was on bombing run against a power plant not light bulb factory), which like it or not is a legitimate military target.
6) People die in war, that is why war sucks. Soldiers (and pilots) follow order that are lawful.

As a vet (2 tours in Iraq) & Obama supporter I am offended by that pile of filth.
Try passing it around VFW or veteran's hospitals and see how many independents associate the Obama campaign with "f**king over the troops".

McSame has already (by lying) been successful as portraying Obama as anti-troop, anti-American, anti-patriot.
Are you trying to help McCain win?
Are you trying to drive military families AWAY from the Democrats?

My problem w/ McCain isn't his service it is his policies.
Obama wins on the policies. Push the debate into this BS and you cloud the issue.

[Thothmes]

14. You miss one salient point

The bombing of that lightbulb factory with women it was on the direct orders of Lyndon Baines Johnson, the President of the United States. He may have even selected the target personally from the oval office of the White House. FDR's promise was broken by Johnson, not some junior LCDR in the U.S. Navy. The Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet did not carry on a bombing campaign against North Vietnam because he thought it was cool or that he wanted to. He did it because the President of the United States ordered that bombing campaingn against North Vietnam. If anyone is guilty of War Crimes and Genocide in Vietnam, it is Lyndon Baines Johnson.