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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:19 PM
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Nausea in New York
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 04:20 PM by WilliamPitt
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/090104A.shtml

Nausea in New York
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Wednesday 01 September 2004

“One of the interesting things people ask me, now that we are asking questions, is, 'Can you ever win the war on terror?' Of course you can."

- George W. Bush, April 13 2004

You just can’t make this stuff up.

George W. Bush, in an interview broadcast Monday by the ‘Today’ show, told host Matt Lauer that he doesn’t think his ‘War on Terror’ is winnable. "I don't think you can win it," said Bush. "But I think you can create conditions so that those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world."

This is a dramatic departure – one might dare call it a ‘flip-flop’ – from the scores of comments he has made since the attacks of September 11. As recently as July 14, Bush said, “I have a clear vision and a strategy to win the war on terror." On April 13th, Bush said, “One of the interesting things people ask me, now that we are asking questions, is, 'Can you ever win the war on terror?' Of course you can." The list of comments like this is longer than the Avenue of the Americas.

Someone forgot to get Rudy Giuliani the memo about the Terror War now being unwinnable. "We'll see an end to global terrorism,'' he said from the convention podium on Monday night. "It may seem very difficult and a long way off. It may even seem idealistic to say that. But it may not be as far away and as idealistic as it seems.''

Never mind Rudy’s assertion that Bush “can see through time” in the same speech. Between Bush’s temporal abilities and his armchair-to-armchair relationship with the Almighty, one might have assumed that he’d have stumbled to this wisdom many moons ago. Of course a war against terror cannot be won. Terrorism is a weapon. How do you wage war against a weapon? Shall we next have a war against bazookas and slingshots?

...more...
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:21 PM
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1. Madame Bush can see through time!
"I see an end to terror. Or not. Which sounds better to the voters, da...oh Great Herbert Walker?"
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:22 PM
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2. The whole orgy is nauseating. The way the Pukes are politicizing 9/11
after solemnly declaring that never would such a thing happen (yeah, we knew that was a fat lie right off the bat) but it's so blatant and shameless, it's just sickening.
I swore I was going to watch every minute, but I just can't stand more than about 60 seconds at a time without wanting to retch.
Sickening.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:26 PM
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3. Don't blame East Texas, Will...
he's not from here.

Otherwise, it's some of your ascerbic best. You always manage to f'in crack me up and get me all riled up at the same time. :)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:39 PM
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8. It's a figure of speech coined by Molly Ivins
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:41 PM
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12. oh crap...I missed a Molly-ism...
don't tell anyone or they'll take away my Texan citizenship. :)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:39 PM
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9. It's a figure of speech coined by Molly Ivins
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:28 PM
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4. chimp is already backing away from that little tidbit
most likely and old fashioned bush unscripted blurt, rare these days since he almost never speaks without an ear piece. He will redouble the lies at the speech on Thursday to compensate for this gaff.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:28 PM
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5. Just as sickening is that they put the country
through this not only by exploiting 911 but for their own political ambitions.

Giuliani, Pataki And Their Presidential Ambitions
The states are critical to anyone considering a run for president because they are the first stops on the presidential primary schedule.

Giuliani and Pataki were not the only ones networking for the future. At the New Hampshire breakfast, Pataki was followed by Sen. Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, also viewed as a possible 2008 candidate.All three men insisted they are not thinking beyond the 2004
election, but the implication of such meetings is clear to the delegates.

"It's never too soon to make friends," said Tom Rath, a Republican National Committee member from New Hampshire. "There's some pretty good people in this room if you want to run for president, but they're also very coy."Pataki has visited New Hampshire often, though his aides have sought to downplay the importance of Tuesday's breakfast.

His speech touted the dramatic drop in crime in New York over the past 10 years as proof that "Republican policies work in every community across America, large and small."A pro-choice moderate, Pataki rejected any notion of a split within the party over social issues.
Pataki advisers say he has not ruled anything out, and some believe he could take a cabinet position in a second Bush administration, or run for a fourth term as governor.Pataki and Giuliani are both mentioned as possible challengers to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., when she is up for re-election in 2006

http://1010wins.com/topstories/winstopstories_story_244151611.html
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TheRovingGourmet Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:30 PM
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6. Nausea in New York, Sleepless in Seattle...I'm staying in Austin!
:)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 04:38 PM
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7. April we could, Monday we couldn't, Tuesday we can again....
Sure seems like a lot of flip-flopping going on there, don't it?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:11 PM
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10. .
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AnewerWay Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:18 PM
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11. Will, do you have a link to Kerry's paln to win "the war on terror"
We need his plan out there yesterday! Do you have connections to his plan?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:54 PM
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13. The other part of his quote?? What did he mean ?
""But I think you can create conditions so that those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world."

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:41 AM
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14. .
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