Tomorrow: All POW all the time...

[CoffeeCat]

I listened to several right-wing talk radio programs tonight, and I was
puzzled because they were all talking up McCain's POW status and the
'war-hero' meme.

Bill Cunningham (major right-wing nut job) interviewed the POW who was in a cell
next to McCain. We got to hear the whole story about horrid beatings, solitary
confinement, and how this qualified McCain to be President, and what a tough hero he
was.

Cunningham then went on to reveal, "We have to really get this message out there, because
tomorrow, Obama is going to go after McCain." Cunningham talked about how they had
to be prepared.

I wondered why they were all in concert--focusing on the POW stuff. Turns out, it's
a marketing device.

Let me just say that what John McCain endured was horrendous. He is a hero and
I applaud his service; and the fact that he survived, speaks to his strength and
his tenacity--of 30 years ago.

However, this doesn't qualify him for the Presidency--TODAY. Furthermore, I think it's
a dishonor to your country to use your time as a POW to continually explain away
and justify your blatant dishonesty and dirty tricks played in a Presidential
campaign.

Everyone should be prepared for more of this tomorrow. Obviously, Obama is
going to come out swinging, and it sounds like the Republicans will constantly
suggest that McCain is above reproach, because he was a POW.

Brace yourselves for the coming avalanche of self-serving, nonsensical marketing of
McCain's POW status, to deflect attention from McCain's lies, distortion and the sociopathic
way he has conducted his shameful campaign.

[mucifer]

1. Obama unleashed a swiftboat ad against mcstupid by the 527s

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x189936

Enjoy!

[CoffeeCat]

9. Hell!

McCain can't contest the validity of that ad--because he was all of those negative things (and more!)
during his appearance on "The View".

Damn straight. It's about time we started throwing back some stinging punches.

I think many undecideds want to know that Obama is a fighter. It's too bad that it has
to come to this--but we need to win--and it is the truth.

Great news.

Let Limbaugh and Hannity freak out over this ad, like a bunch of wussies. This will work
with blue-collar Dems and Indies, and that's all we need to worry about.

[FlyingSquirrel]

2. If Karl Rove were advising Obama, we'd see "Vietnam POW's For The Truth"

attacking McCain and running ads, websites etc.

Oh wait... Guess we don't need him after all.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

[mucifer]

3. um Obama just did that. Watch the ad.

[FlyingSquirrel]

4. I'll do that (just as soon as you give me the link!) :-)

And here's one for you...

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

[mucifer]

5. I did but here it is again

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x189936

[FlyingSquirrel]

11. Thanks... nice. A good start but needs to be driven into the ground

just like they did to Kerry. Nice to see that it's a 527 group so Obama can claim that his campaign had nothing to do with it, just like Bush did in '04.

[PermanentRevolution]

7. Technically, DFA did that

And I just sent them a donation to say "Thank you!"

[JaneQPublic]

6. If GOP claims McCain is above reproach, because he was a POW, then...

...as them why they didn't nominate him in 2000, instead of launching whispering campaigns suggesting that he was unstable "damaged goods" because of his POW experience.

[renate]

18. quit being logical

That kind of thinking is completely inappropriate during a presidential election.

The important thing to remember is that, since then, he has voted with Bush 90% of the time. Therefore he is no longer unstable.

[jaysunb]

8. Tomorrow: All financial collasp, all the time.

Trust me....

[msongs]

10. its all MCcain has left - Obama should bring it up n say what have u done for us lately John?? nt

[jeff30997]

14. Not much.

Being an ex POW is a full time job apparently.

[BlooInBloo]

12. BlooInBloo to America: You fell for All 9/11 All The Time. Will You Fall For This Too?

Please show the world you're not as stupid as I always say you are.

[Duer 157099]

13. It should be addressed without making it personal

It's a valid discussion, the impact, long and short term, of having spent years as a POW have on one's psyche, emotions, physical and mental well-being.

I wonder if this partly explains how we've come to tolerate torture, because somehow we've raised the victims of torture to some elevated status where they are better off for the experience! That it somehow "proves" their strength of character or something. Rather than the truth, which is that it does irreversible harm. I'm not kidding, I can see a connection - it's twisted thinking, yes, but they are natural progressions of the logic that wants to tout McCain's POW status as something in his "positives" column!

If only that message could be delivered somehow by some wise political strategist, without having to personally discuss McCain's case, because it's larger than just him.

[BlueIdaho]

15. So there back to that again are they?

Gee - it was such a great excuse last time I can't blame them for returning to it instead of dealing with - oh say - the Economy.

John McCain - a noun a verb and POW.

[Heather MC]

16. I have a question.

I have heard the story told several times, that when McCain's Plane crashed
he had 2 broken arms and one broken leg.

Did this happen to him, because he didn't know how to eject from his plane properly?
In other words, did he cause those injuries to himself, because during training he wasn't listening to his instructors?

[NYC_SKP]

17. Just being captured does not make one a HERO. Or make one honorable.

He was just a shitty cadet, with admiral dad and grandpa, who probably got his wings without earning them.

Crashed five planes, got himself captured.

I used to admire all that a little, until he flipped on torture.

Fuck John McCain, he's no hero.

:patriot:

[Window]

19. It should be POW, right in the kisser when the state of the stock market

news is made known in the morning. Again, "It's the economy, stupid."