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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:09 AM
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Colin Powell Disses McCain on Georgia Russia Conflict

From CNN’s The Next President: A World of Challenges, Powell pretty well slaps McCain for his statements about Georgia here:

AMANPOUR: Except for, General Powell, it basically hopes that Russia is not going to be the aggressor. And if Russia is and you have to, you know, keep your NATO allies’ security, aren’t you then committed?

POWELL: Under Article 5 of the Washington Treaty, which is the NATO Treaty, when one member of the alliance is attacked from abroad — meaning outside the NATO geographic limits — then all members of NATO treat that as an attack.

AMANPOUR: And yet…

POWELL: Article 5 has only been invoked once in the history of the alliance, and that was on the 12th of September, 2001, when it was invoked in our favor, when the whole NATO alliance said we were attacked, the alliance was attacked on 9/11.

Now, in the current situation, the Russians acted brutally. I think they acted foolishly. But it was also absolutely predictable what the Russians would do. You could see them stacking up their troops.

And I think it was foolhardy on the part of President Saakashvili and the Georgian government to kick over this can, to light a match in a roomful of gas fumes.

SESNO: So you’re saying the Georgians provoked this?

POWELL: They did. I mean, there was a lot of reasons to have provocations in the area, but the match that started the conflagration was from the Georgian side.

AMANPOUR: And yet…

POWELL: And that’s a given.

AMANPOUR: And some debate in the presidential elections has basically been, “We are all Georgians now.” What does that mean? It’s the same as was said after 9/11.

POWELL: One candidate said that, and I’ll let the candidate explain it for himself.

(LAUGHTER)

SESNO: You can help a little, if you’d like.

POWELL: No, the fact of the matter is that you — you have to be very careful in a situation like this not just to leap to one side or the other until you’ve taken a good analysis of the whole situation.

This was something that might have been avoided if people had looked at the Russian troops that were stacked up, if people had realized that the Russians were serious about South Ossetia and Abkhazia, and if perhaps more guidance and suggestions had been given to President Saakashvili beyond those that he received, it might have been avoided.

But it wasn’t. It’s over. The Russians are the offenders right now. And we have to see that.

We cannot say to the Russians, “We are not going to allow the Georgians or Ukrainians or anyone else to start down the path toward NATO membership.” It’s not for the Russians to decide that.

But I think it is wise for us to look at the whole strategic situation and all of our equities before deciding how fast that should happen and whether it’s the time to do it right now.

The Russian Federation is not going to become the Soviet Union again. That movie failed at the box office. But they do have interests. And we have to think carefully about their interests.

So you have to treat Russia as a proud country that lost a lot of its pride some 15, 16 years ago, and it’s restored with a political leadership that is enormously popular in the country and with a level of wealth they’ve never had before, and with concerns about their near abroad, and treat them in a straightforward, business-like, objective way and not emotionally.

VIDEO AT LINK
http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/colin-powell-disses-mccain-on-georgia-russia-conflict/
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:10 AM
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1. We now know who is getting Colin's vote
GOBAMA!!!!!!!
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:13 AM
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3. he could endorse already
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:15 AM
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5. I think Obama is waiting for the perfect time to roll out Colin's endorsement
They might wait for a day when the news isn't so good for whatever reason. I think they're holding Colin back on purpose.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:19 AM
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7. after the foreign policy debate when McAricept announces that India is in South America
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:12 AM
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2. That forum was really cool to watch.
Colin Powell's story about Russia was kick ass. My problems with him notwithstanding, his posture on treating Russia with businesslike frankness and directness seems to be the right tack.

Hearing these different Sec of States speak without any political implications was really refreshing. The political wrangling of the election campaigns gets to be suffocating and this was a nice break.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:14 AM
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4. "US Military, MPRI Trained Georgian Commandos Before South Ossetia Invasion" by Charles Clover &
Demetri Sevastopulo (9-5-2008 Financial Times repost from Global Research)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10283

:hi:
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CPschem Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:17 AM
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6. wish he would endorse.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:32 AM
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8. "the Georgians provoked this?" ..... Powell's response: "They did." Not a Media peep to be heard
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