OK... I finally won a debate

[iiibbb]

I frequent a hobby board that has a Republican slant. I'm not a Democrat, I'm an independent, but I've been going I've been going at it with them about Bush, and now the election, for the past year at least. I hate getting sucked into it, but there's a lot to be made about... I lose a lot of arguments because of the sheer shout-down-dismiss factor...

...but today I got them... I posted this morning

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Bush's bailout sucks. It sucked last week. It sucks this week. They had all of last week to think about it. They wrote a 3-page plan over the weekend. McCain still hadn't read it by Wednesday according to an interview. They have a plan worked out. McCain and Bush show up. And the plan is scuttled.

At one point during the meeting McCain was asked what he thought... and after nearly 2 weeks... he was given the table and all he had was one non-committal sentence to offer as a leader.

This is leadership?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26884523/

At one point, several minutes into the session, Obama said it was time to hear from McCain. According to a Republican who was there, “all he said was, ’I support the principles that House Republicans are fighting for.”’
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They railed on me on what I knew about leadership... called me a socialist... etc etc. I said I may not know about leadership, but I know that it isn't a mealy mouthed acquiescence to a Republican counter-plan of which McCain was obviously out of the loop.

I complained that jerking the rudder one way or another was worse than just coming out for or against a bailout... pick one... one or the other...

So they thought they had me and one posted

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"Amazing. Do anything, right or wrong, as long as it's soon?
That's absurd. Read the fine print before you sign on the dotted line <rolling eyes>.
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So I responded...

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The president

The Republican presidential candidate

The Republican vice-presidential candidate


Have all said that this bailout is critical at some point this week.

What changed?


What's with the blinking... I thought republicans were all about the "not blinking"... make a decision, don't blink, and it'll be part of God's plan and all that.
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It has been crickets ever since. These are guys that have answers to every single thing. They won't concede any point.

Ahhhhh...

It'll be a small consolation if the economy goes splat... and people in here may not care because I'm not a pure-blood progressive...

...but right now it feels nice.

[I Have A Dream]

1. Congratulations on your victory, iiibbb.

Thanks for fighting the good fight with us.

[iiibbb]

2. I figure if I can even get any of them to decide to not vote... it will be enough.

It's a stupid board to talk politics. It is always too over the top and no-one is "discussing" anything... it's only about the "winning" and I let myself get caught up in it a bit.

Now I can finally spend less time there... maybe that's why I'm so happy.

[I Have A Dream]

3. Absolutely!

:D

[butterfly77]

4. They said Obama spoke first...

and then they went to McCain and he said nothing and then went to Bohener who went off then it went back to Obama and he asked McCain what he had to say and he said Nothing, so what in the hell did he go their for,we know...a photo op and political stunt...