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BluegrassDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:30 PM Original message |
Could Obama have won Texas? |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. probably not, but my guess is he will get better than 45% of the vote. |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I think McCain won't break 50% (look for a strong Libertarian performance and over 46% for Obama). |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. If he gets 45% then I think we could turn Texas back one day soon |
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TxBlue (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I haven't seen 1 McCain bumper sticker |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. If all the stars aligned and he held his mouth just right. Obama-Richardson would've been VERY close |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't think he can win it this year; but Texas may be flippable. |
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bookman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. No, but... |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Doubt it |
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crazy_vanilla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. He only came here once during the primaries, if I recall correctly |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. No, just off the top of my head he came to Dallas, Ft. Worth |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
10. Texas is too expensive and the GOP has all of the infrastructure |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
95. John Cornyn DOES have a SERIOUS challenger his name is Rick Noriega |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
11. The DINO TX state Democratic party would work against him. |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. That's nonsense! Other than Ortiz's staff's PUMA blog, I know of no Texas Democrats who wouldn't |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. . |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. The Texas State Democratic Party did NOT work AGAINST Van Os. I just failed to support him, and it |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. . |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. The Texas State Democratic Party is ineffective, not malignant. It's not a cabal sabotaging good |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. . |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Who? No Democrat in Texas is even halfway organized (or funded) enough to be a king maker. |
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RollWithIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
81. People said the same thing about the Ohio Democratic Party just 4 years ago..... |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
12. LBJ, Nixon, and Reagan showed that huge electoral landslides like that are possible. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
61. Besides LBJ, the other were Rethugs |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. And a Republican like Reagan carried NY IL MA ect |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. TX will never be competitive, NEVER |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #67 |
85. You are so full of shit. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 06:18 AM Response to Reply #85 |
112. They were sure effective at beating redistricting in the Lege |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 06:29 AM Response to Reply #85 |
113. Exactly..in 2006, Dallas County residents FIRED all their repuke judges |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #67 |
118. I think it will. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
13. Doubtful |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Not voting is foolish. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Do you live in Texas? |
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raventattoo (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Much closer than 70% McCrash |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. It's still not even close for us |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
93. So move already |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #93 |
122. We'd be much better off if people with defeatist attitudes would just |
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raventattoo (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Houston |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Ah the optimism of youth! |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. That's not optimism. Houston will go STRONGLY for Obama (so will Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, Corpus |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Good for them, unfortunately the rest of the state sucks Bush dick |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Texas is not nearly as red as that. Obama will break 45% and McCain won't break 50% (Libertarians |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. Well aren't you just a bucket of sunshine? |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Insult me all you like, it doesn't change anything |
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Chloroplast (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Thank you! |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Everyone I run into who would normally vote repub but is |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Go ask James Byrd Jr. if Texas is racist |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. EXACTLY. And thank you!!! |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Go try that in Midland/Odessa |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Well at first you said everything outside of Austin sucked bush's dick. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. I'll concede that but it doesn't change the state as a whole |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
91. But there are even wide swaths of California that won't go blue either |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #52 |
121. Most of rural Texas remains Republican, but change from the cities is radiating outward. Even Waco |
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Cathryn (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
66. I live in Dallas |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Ask JFK how friendly Dallas is |
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salonghorn70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. This Remark Is Totally Uncalled For |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Oswald didn't kill him, it was a setup by Charles Cabell, the Chief of Police |
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salonghorn70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Your Reply Is Just Breathtaking |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Sorry, can't do it. |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Oh please. The Metroplex Atheists would disagree with |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #66 |
87. I was there at that rally! |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
119. Well, this middle aged Texas will vote. |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. You don't know what you're talking about. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. And insulting me will convince me? |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. ,,,,,(self deleted) |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Ah, again with the insults. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:28 AM Response to Reply #54 |
120. No more, nor no less... |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. I'm sure Dallas County would get a good laugh at your comment |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. 49% ain't winning |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
94. Have hope. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
108. 42 out of 42 Democrats running in Dallas county in 2006 were elected |
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Cathryn (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. I love to hear that! |
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Cathryn (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. I love to hear that! |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Hey, neighbor!!! |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
96. Make your voice heard. I live in Idaho, for cripes sake, and I vote for Democrats! |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
97. Again You are so FULL of Shit |
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nene1985 (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
103. Not just Austin |
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TheFarseer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 06:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
117. are you crazy? only Austin will favor Obama? |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. He shouldn't waste 1 second of his time there. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. TX was probably not winnable this year, but I think we'll see it moving in the right direction. |
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budkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. No but he'll come close... Texas is shifting back to purple |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
19. I think they decided to take on one really big red state that would cost a lot of money |
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Marsala (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 06:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
116. Though Florida isn't a true red state |
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bermudat (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
20. No |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
24. Do you mean, could he have won the primary? |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
29. Texas will flip blue after Kentucky has. |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. No. 2010 will be a sea change for Texas. By 2012 it will be more blue than purple. It's demographic |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
72. Wish it were so. Sadly, this year will be a high water mark year for us. |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. I'm bookmarking this thread because of this comment. |
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weezie1317 (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
33. Maybe, but it's unlikely and would have cost him resources in other states like VA, FL and NC |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
34. YES, but he has LOTS of Support here working on his behalf |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. GO TARRANT COUNTY!! GO TARRANT COUNTY!! |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
84. Yay for Tarrant County!! |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
39. Texas WILL flip to blue, it's not even totally red now. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
109. Actually, ALL the judges won |
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Yanez Houston Jordan (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
41. Yes. Yes. Yes. COULD Obama have won Texas? Definitely. If he picked Richardson as his VP and if he |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
56. If it happened in the past he could have |
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tandem5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. OP is from the future |
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brazos121200 (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
63. Texas went over to the dark side a long time ago. Time was |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. What? Your comment about the big cities is just wrong. |
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brazos121200 (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. I wasn't aware of the 2006 election results, but I am talking |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
101. Travis County is Austin's county seat: Tarrant County is Fort Worth's county seat |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
105. Bullshit, Dallas (city of) voted for Kerry |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. Is it just me, or is this thread getting full of posters |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
92. I've helped register people to vote |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
74. Is a bear Catholic? Does the pope shit in the woods? |
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salonghorn70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
75. No |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. And a SEVEN point difference is bad????? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
86. Dems can compete there in 2012. |
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PerfectSage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
88. I think a popular democratic ex governor from Texas running for Prez as a democrat could. |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
89. If enough GOPers stay home or vote Lib |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
90. No, Texas won't go "blue" this cycle |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
98. Not a fucking chance. |
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Liberal Mommy (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
99. Don't give up on Texas! |
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optimisticin08 (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
100. TEXAS will go for us |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
102. No |
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PerfectSage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
104. Obama has spent 8 million on advertizing in Texas |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. All, I would guess. I haven't seen much since then. nt |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
107. Who cares? |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
110. Realistically, no, but the state is going the right way. nt |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
111. It used to be blue. Gov. Ann Richards was a Dem. A great broad, as they say. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
114. I think he can in 2012! |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
115. No, but I think he could have made it close (within 5% or so) |
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