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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 08:48 PM Original message |
ATTN Lawyers or Legal Minds: Question about Roe v Wade and Griswold in light of Palin |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. The response would be short and to the point: |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. So she would say, I think its wrong because a baby is in the stomach right after sex |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. Read the dissenting opinions in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 505 US 833 |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Thank you very much. |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Thank you for pointing me to that case. Very enlightening. |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. One thing that was pointed out |
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rwenos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
6. Big Question, Brief Answer |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Thank you so much! You made this very clear for me. |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. I think they can go another way besides the Casey dissent. |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. And then how would they be able to conclusively say that life begins at conception? |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. Interpreting what "life" means in the due process clause |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. Grsiwold is the basis for Roe |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Ok, that makes sense. So, they could probably overturn both in the same case, right? |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
12. I've never understood why a woman's right to her body isn't covered by the 9th amendment |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Whoa, that's a good point. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Because the 10th Amendment gave that right to the states. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. They may attack it on grounds having little to do with privacy. |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Eisenstadt vs Baird-don't forget |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Right, but the state law was not struck down on privacy grounds but on equal protection grounds. |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Okay this is very interesting. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Yes, that would be the outcome. |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Alaska could theoretically create a law which says |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. NARAL has been very vigilant in scrutinizing criminal laws that make causing the death of a fetus |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
20. There is no "real" Constitutional right to privacy. The word isn't anywhere in the document. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Plessey had 58 years of precedence before it was reversed. |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. You make a good point, but... |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. They will leap at the chance, saliva oozing from their maws. |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I think it will depend on where the culture is in this country... |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I believe in a living Constitution. Even though privacy isn't explicit in the Constitution |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Well you pretty much described the divide perfectly. |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Yes, I understand what you're saying as far as having loose interpretation work against |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Well you pretty much described the divide perfectly. |
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rwenos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Privacy from a "Penumbra of Rights" |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Oh I agree completely. lol |
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