Bill Clinton on MSNBC live in Florida: "Hillary sent me."

[speedoo]

I think the rally is in the Orlando area.

[Boz]

1. And hes doing it again........

:(

[LynneSin]

5. Doing what - hosting a rally sponsered by the Barack Obama campaign?

http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/flwjcorlando

[quantass]

7. im guessing being lukewarm about Obama

[Zuiderelle]

13. Instead of guessing (wrongly), you should watch it. He's doing GREAT.

[jonnyblitz]

8. he isn't being sufficiently worshipful enough of ST Obama. nt

[ericgtr]

15. He's given McCain more props than Obama this season so get off of it

He went out on the stump supporting McCain while failing to acknowledge Obama. Did you even see him making the rounds over the last two weeks? Obama is better off without Bill's misguided help, period.

[LynneSin]

19. The last two weeks Clinton was also promoting his foundation which is NON-PARTISAN

PLUS some of those articles were edited by the media to make it seem Clinton was even more blah about Obama.

[ClarkUSA]

96. That's a lame excuse and you know it.

During each and every interview last week, Bill looked as if he just sucked on a lemon when Obama's name came up.
Chris Rock had it down - Bill could barely spit out Barack's name and avoided doing so at every opportunity; Bill
pointedly turned down a chance to say Obama is a great man though he had no problem repeatedly saying that
about that sack of stinking shit named McCain; Bill said he understood how "hot" Palin was because she was so
"gutsy and real and had a great story"; Bill sympathized how McCain was a "real maverick" who chose to run at
the wrong time, etc.

Yeah, sure. He's so misunderstood. Not.

:eyes:

[ProSense]

16. That's a lot of nerve after this comment

"Obama sucks a tad less than McCain plus he is the DEM" candidate so I will vote for him for THOSE reasons, otherwise I think he is a HIGHLY OVERRATED business-as-usual CENTRIST"

[LynneSin]

17. Wait a bit til they bring out the Lifesize statue of Obama that Clinton will worship at the feet of

:eyes:

[AtomicKitten]

53. that's PUMA talk

[TornadoTN]

56. Of course it is - and they reveal themselves in each of the threads that appear like this

I look forward to seeing them, to be perfectly honest. It is always a good indicator of those who are still struggling to cope with the outcome of the primaries.

[AtomicKitten]

58. Some support Obama to a point, but it's Clintons First all the time with them.

They are prepared to defend and rationalize anything they do. Anything.

[TornadoTN]

62. I think the same applies for both side - the Ultra-Obama and the Ultra-Clinton

Sometimes, I think that I could be considered an Ultra-Obama type and I end up blocking out other well intentioned arguments or intricacies in a certain policy or course of action. Same can be said of the Ultra-Clinton types, except once they start (at least around here), they become so vitriolic and hateful that it turns a bad situation even worse. Plus, Bill hasn't exactly been our greatest asset as of late as far as our party goes.

That being said, Bill gave a masterful speech today and was exactly what we needed. Sure, he could have been a little more gracious to Obama personally, but this is about winning and his speech went a long way to helping us to that end.

[AtomicKitten]

67. I would prefer nothing from him rather than his unreliable mercurial support.

But that's me.

[Scout]

81. don't you trust Obama?

don't you think Obama is smart enough to pick the people he wants to campaign for him?

if Bill is doing such a crappy ass job, why does Obama continue to let him campaign?

[AtomicKitten]

83. Your answer lies in my previous post.

Shall we recap? "I would prefer nothing from him rather than his unreliable mercurial support." (That's "I" as in me; you'll have to ask Obama for his opinion.)

unreliable Adjective
* not able to be trusted or relied on

mercurial Adjective
* unpredictable

You're welcome.

[Arkansas Granny]

88. Actually, other than his convention speech, I don't think Bill has made actual

campaign appearances for Obama. The interviews that he gave in the last couple of weeks that has everyone upset were to promote his Global Initiative, not campaign events. If he didn't speak as strongly for Obama as some wished, it was because he was representing a non political organization.

[polmaven]

94. As opposed to

the Clintons suck all the time?

[iconicgnom]

66. totally.

Any hint of criticism of a Clinton action give these P***As license to attack the Dem nominee, or those who support the nominee (usually while throwing around the word "haters", to show their level of analysis).
There's no other group of "X supporters" who act like that, thank the great Koot Hoomi.

[AtomicKitten]

68. good point

The other contenders and their supporters behaved appropriately.

[Beacool]

77. The other contenders didn't get 18 M votes,

nor their supporters felt that the LW leadership of the party made a concerted effort to kneecap their candidate.

:shrug:

[AtomicKitten]

78. Tell us the story about her winning the popular vote again. I love that one.

[Beacool]

79. Whatever............

We can continue this discussion after the election.

[dionysus]

85. the Dem party is controlled by left-wingers?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
oh Bea... you're such a card... :spray:

[Alexander]

86. As if it's a bad thing - Beacool thinks the party should move more to the right?

I wonder if Beacool thinks we should just imitate George W. Bush?

[iconicgnom]

98. To anyone who suggests that they can hold those "18 million votes" against the Dem party:

you are wrong.

That's not the way it works. Someone might well think that because *they* voted for X out of hatred for Y, so *everyone* who voted for X might be considered to be in some measure against Y, after Y won. Such a person might think she can speak for 18 million voices - however wrong that is. In this case, not even Hillary Clinton can rightly say that she speaks for 18 million voices, aside from the fact that 18 million people cast their ballot in her favor in such and such circumstances.

[Beacool]

99. That's not what I said.

My point is that she wasn't just another contender. None of the other candidates who lost came as close to winning as many votes as she did.

[iconicgnom]

101. I'm sorry. That's exactly what you've been saying.

I think you should learn to say something else.

[demokatgurrl]

104. You mean the LW-DLC?> n/t

[Forkboy]

60. Lynne, that shit is as lame as the attacks against Bill that upset you.

:shrug:

[LynneSin]

61. YES IT IS

couldn't have said it better myself

[Forkboy]

69. I don't know.

I've read a lot of your posts, and I'm betting you could say a lot of things better than me. ;)

[LynneSin]

71. the original comment was a joke but then again are some of these posters

who automatically assumed Clinton was badmouthing Obama even though Clinton was at a rally FOR Barack Obama.

It's a crazy world and will be overwith in less than 40 days

[Forkboy]

72. 40 days.....I'll never make it.

That would be something, wouldn't it? Survive 8 years under Chimpy only to die a week or two before he gets the boot. x(

[Cha]

64. Thanks for bringing that Obama "worship" shit up..

that's always helpful.

Excuse us if we're excited about some fucking Democracy after 8 years of the rovebushcheney nightmare and mcpalin/corporaten00ze trying to make 8 more.

[cosmodem]

70. I see your eye roll emotioncon. good one:-)

[dionysus]

22. bullshit. if you can't tell what he's doing you're either purposely ignoring it,

or you have your head so far up clinton's butt the lump in his throat is your goddamned nose.

[Zuiderelle]

27. Watch the rally. Watch the speech afterwards if you can't now. You'll see how wrong you are.

[Scout]

82. don't you trust Obama?

if Bill is doing such a poor job of campaigning for Obama, why doesn't Obama stop him?

i trust that Obama knows what he wants and what will work, apparently many here don't.

[Cosmic Charlie]

41. don't you mean "Titular Head of the Democratic Party" Obama?

that title used to belong to a certain jealous old man...

[TankLV]

51. That's just about the size of it, isn't it!

and the usual IDIOTS have shown up to criticize him here - like clockwork...

only I don't/won't put them on ignore - I want to see the stupid crap they spew...

[iconicgnom]

59. "ST Obama" ??? You sure do have a way of telegraphing your feelings about the Dem nominee.

Why not go all the way and call him "The One", like the McCain attack ads do? Hmmm?

Do you think defending Bill gives you license?

[Beacool]

73. LOL!!!

:rofl:

[Zuiderelle]

18. Yeah, seriously, I am sick to death of the irrational Clinton-hate here.

[HuckleB]

40. I don't post much around DU, anymore.

And I am very happy that Bill is campaigning for Obama. At the same time, his statements have been confusing enough that SNL did a sketch on it last weekend.

[dionysus]

84. did you realize that calling anyone who sees what's goin on or disagrees with you

"irrational haters" is THE EXACT SAME THING the republicans did when the democrats complained about bush? you do realize that don't you?
it's a cheap, loaded phrase to throw around...

[Zuiderelle]

87. I've held out until now, but you've earned my ignore with this one.

[dionysus]

89. !!!

:rofl:

[Zuiderelle]

6. Doing what? WTF? He's CAMPAIGNING for OBAMA and doing a fucking great job at it.

[LynneSin]

35. Read who I replied to

It was a post of sarcasm. You know me, I know Bill is on our team and wish we'd just worry more about Obama and less about Bill.

[Zuiderelle]

38. I don't think you meant this response to me. I was responding to the same person you were.

(In fact we responded at the exact same time to Boz... with much the same response.)

[Schulzz]

2. CNN shows it online

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream1

[L. Coyote]

23. Requires Turner Media plugin.

[mzmolly]

3. "We've got to change the course of America..."

He's doing well so far.

:shrug:

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[jefferson_dem]

9. Just tuned in to hear "Here's why you ought to be for Barack Obama."

Sounds good to me.

[BeyondGeography]

10. Bet he does great

Hope I'm right.

[gabby garcia]

11. "Obama's answers are better!"

I do like that!

[Thrill]

12. He is kicking ass

[mzmolly]

29. Yes he is! And, he's connecting the dots on the financial crisis.

Making it matter to all of us. Much needed leadership, doing what he does best - breaking it down.

[NotThisTime]

48. yes he did and yes he was! He did great! I noticed he mentioned Biden and what a VP does it was a

good way to REMIND people what Palin would have to be doing, he doesn't even have to say she's not up for it, it's obvious.

[nc4bo]

14. I don't care what he says, if he can bring just 1 more person to our side, his job is done. nt

[FrenchieCat]

21. Awe come on! Let's raise the bar off the ground now.

[nc4bo]

24. No really - he's doing his job and doing it well too ;) We need every single vote we can get, yes?

Bill's doing really well - fabulous actually.

Now what he'll do on the talk show circuit....................that's another story :rofl:

[alsame]

20. I think he's doing a great job. He sounds very enthusiastic and

energetic. Bringing the issues to the people - your 401k plan, buying appliances on credit, etc. "It matters who is Pres, it matters what decisions are made".

[BlueStateGirl]

25. He is really excellent advocate for why our ideas are better.

[bigtree]

26. What a great speech

this is rockin'!

[alsame]

28. He's on fire. This is the Bill I remember from the 90s. Wow, talking

about VP - "Obama has a better VP partner" and the crowd cheers!

[Zuiderelle]

32. And just now "You better vote for Barack Obama!" He's describing ALL his plans very well.

Go Bill!

[speedoo]

30. Bill's doing a great job... the rubber is hitting the road..

and he's making a very persuasive and intelligent case for Obama.

[DeepModem Mom]

31. Bill is not preaching to the CONVERTED. We could use some of those recalcitrant HRC voters...

and by saying, Hillary Sent Me, he is talking to THEM. Different surrogates aim at different voting groups.

I know Bill has had some problems accepting the results of the primary campaign, but I say let him try to bring some of that percentage of Clinton voters back into the Dem fold.

And while he's at it, just his presence out there reminds people of how much better things were when he was in the White House. That is another group of voters he's speaking to, as only he can.

He's a great politician. Let him do his stuff. Obama is also a great politician. We need them both.

[TexasObserver]

33. the best speech Bill has given in ages!!

He is kicking the dogshit out of the GOP!!

[MelSC]

34. Clinton is kicking ass and is fired up!

I haven't seen him like this in a while...

[DangerousRhythm]

36. Hell yeah! He is kicking ass!

Switched to C-SPAN because MSNBC interrupted. :D

[Schulzz]

37. "This is not close"

Great speech.

[valerief]

45. Great line. Should be repeated. Often. nt

[alsame]

39. That was just great. Thank you, President Clinton!

[valerief]

42. I wish MSNBC didn't cut away. Clinton was terrific! Obama should be very pleased with him.

[cottonseed]

43. He's doing great.

That's what I saw watching it this morning.

[flpoljunkie]

44. Thank you, Bill, for saying this bill doesn't do enough for those struggling to stay in their homes-

and that Barack Obama will do something about it when he is elected president. He mentioned Hillary's idea of creating an agency like the RTC to help folks refinance their mortgages--called HOLC, in this case. A great idea!

[NatBurner]

46. That's it?!? That's the BEST he can do?!?

:)

thx Bill, THIS is why I voted for you twice

[alsame]

47. Me too. This man can still make me cry when he talks about

what our country can be.

[ronnykmarshall]

49. I'm sure this is just the start of Bill's stumping.

This is the perfect time to get both the Clinton's out there.

And Florida is the PERFECT place to for him to go. He's the last democrat to LEGALLY carry Florida. With Obama's number up in FL, Bill can help seal the deal.

[valerief]

52. LOL! I think most of us voted for him twice!. nt

[Chrisnreno]

50. I thought the speech was terrific...

and the best part is that the Obama campaign is beginning to pour it on just as the polls are starting to show the race widening in Obama's favor. This campaign is absolutely brilliant. The crescendo continues to build...fasten your seat belts people!

[Stop Cornyn]

54. I wish Obama would call Bill and tell him: "Bill I need you to deliver Arkansas for me. Please do

your magic for me in Arkansas and don't leave Arkansas until after the statewide victory party in Little Rock on November 5."

[Tatiana]

55. Thank you, Hillary. Looks like you got Bubba back on the right track. n/t

[TornadoTN]

57. I'm conflicted about Bill as of late, but this was a stirring and masterful speech

I'll put aside my reservations about him today, because this was a masterful speech and hit home at exactly what we need to be focusing on right now.

Thanks Bill & Hillary.

[Forkboy]

63. Question: How many criticizing are even watching?

Be honest now. :P

[dionysus]

74. i didn't and i'll believe people when they say he did a good job.

my issue with bill isn't that he'll get in front of a Dem rally, essentially "the choir", and put forth a good speech. no problem there.

it's that he'll follow that up by going on TV, which reaches fence sitters and what have you, and kiss up to the GOP ticket.

which of these two activities has more influence?

he's inconsistent and it's a pattern.

[polmaven]

97. You realize that

the TV appearances last week were NOT on behalf of the Obama campaign, right?

The appearances were to promote his BIPARTISAN Global Initiative. It would be a little awkward to go on TV and bash Republicans up the yahoo when he is trying to get their support for a very important initiative, doncha think?

[dionysus]

102. he didn't have to kiss their butts though.

n/t

[polmaven]

103. Well, I guess that depends

on what your definition of "kiss their butts" is. If it means being fair and non partisan, then yes. If it means never saying a good word about anything Republican, then I guess not. Of course that would be ridiculous, wouldn't it?

[Catherine Vincent]

65. I missed his rally.

Did Big Bill do well?

[YvonneCa]

75. President Clinton was EXCELLENT...

...and did a great job for Obama. I expected nothing less.

[voteearlyvoteoften]

76. Bill worked it

I watched a good portion of his speech and it worked for me...and more important, for Barack.
Remember the I4 corridor is VIP for Florida. We want to be the redemption state in 2008. Thanks Bill you looked c`ool on a hot day.

[SIMPLYB1980]

80. Big Dawg did great as usual!

For Democrats stuck on the primaries I offer you this since it seems to be what you need.

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[QC]

91. This is on TV, isn't it?

Or are you watching it live?

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[mtnsnake]

95. Seconded!

[stillcool]

93. Enough! I am not fond..

of Bill, but he is doing the right thing here, and he's doing it well. Let's win this thing!

[barack the house]

100. Let's be fair even Barack has givne McCain his credit militarily. Clinton is A GREAT assett.It's >

vital to keep Bill on side. So please let's be cool.