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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:50 PM
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David brooks..Obama has the great intellect: Sarah Palin represents a fatal cancer to the GOP
David Brooks spoke frankly about the presidential and vice presidential candidates Monday afternoon, calling Sarah Palin a "fatal cancer to the Republican party" but describing John McCain and Barack Obama as "the two best candidates we've had in a long time."

In an interview with The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg at New York's Le Cirque restaurant to unveil that magazine's redesign, Brooks decried Palin's anti-intellectualism and compared her to President Bush in that regard:

Sarah Palin represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party. When I first started in journalism, I worked at the National Review for Bill Buckley. And Buckley famously said he'd rather be ruled by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty. But he didn't think those were the only two options. He thought it was important to have people on the conservative side who celebrated ideas, who celebrated learning. And his whole life was based on that, and that was also true for a lot of the other conservatives in the Reagan era. Reagan had an immense faith in the power of ideas. But there has been a counter, more populist tradition, which is not only to scorn liberal ideas but to scorn ideas entirely. And I'm afraid that Sarah Palin has those prejudices. I think President Bush has those prejudices.
Brooks praised Palin's natural political talent, but said she is "absolutely not" ready to be president or vice president. He explained, "The more I follow politicians, the more I think experience matters, the ability to have a template of things in your mind that you can refer to on the spot, because believe me, once in office there's no time to think or make decisions."

The New York Times columnist also said that the "great virtue" of Palin's counterpart, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, is that he is anything but a "yes man."

" can't not say what he thinks," Brooks remarked. "There's no internal monitor, and for Barack Obama, that's tremendously important to have a vice president who will be that way. Our current president doesn't have anybody like that."

Brooks also spent time praising Obama's intellect and skills in social perception, telling two stories of his interactions with Obama that left him "dazzled":


Obama has the great intellect. I was interviewing Obama a couple years ago, and I'm getting nowhere with the interview, it's late in the night, he's on the phone, walking off the Senate floor, he's cranky. Out of the blue I say, 'Ever read a guy named Reinhold Niebuhr?' And he says, 'Yeah.' So i say, 'What did Niebuhr mean to you?' For the next 20 minutes, he gave me a perfect description of Reinhold Niebuhr's thought, which is a very subtle thought process based on the idea that you have to use power while it corrupts you. And I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews would say.

And the other thing that does separate Obama from just a pure intellectual: he has tremendous powers of social perception. And this is why he's a politician, not an academic. A couple of years ago, I was writing columns attacking the Republican congress for spending too much money. And I throw in a few sentences attacking the Democrats to make myself feel better. And one morning I get an email from Obama saying, 'David, if you wanna attack us, fine, but you're only throwing in those sentences to make yourself feel better.' And it was a perfect description of what was going through my mind. And everybody who knows Obama all have these stories to tell about his capacity for social perception.




Brooks predicted an Obama victory by nine points, and said that although he found Obama to be "a very mediocre senator," he was is surrounded by what Brooks called "by far the most impressive people in the Democratic party."

"He's phenomenally good at surrounding himself with a team," Brooks said. "I disagree with them on most issues, but I am given a lot of comfort by the fact that the people he's chosen are exactly the people I think most of us would want to choose if we were in his shoes. So again, I have doubts about him just because he was such a mediocre senator, but his capacity to pick staff is impressive."



David Brooks: Sarah Palin "Represents A Fatal Cancer To The Republican Party"(Video)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/david-brooks-sarah-palin_n_133001.html

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:51 PM
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1. She's more like CJD than Cancer (n/t)
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volstork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:45 PM
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25. HA!
No kidding. Her "brain" is just riddled with holes!
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:52 PM
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35. One too many moose burgers n/t
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:47 PM
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46. Funny Image came in mind
her eating and pooing moose. :P
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:53 PM
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2. wow.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:54 PM
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3. Oh my God! That is unbelievable. I wonder what George Will thinks now
What an image: Sarah Palin= Fatal Cancer :wow:
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:55 PM
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4. Thank god some conservative are having the cojones to call out Palin.
but what left me just speechless about this column is the glowing admiration for Obama.

Brooks hasn't been so kind in the past, so this is really meaningful.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:55 PM
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5. Another rat has fled the sinking ship. nt
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:02 PM
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26. Precisely.
Though this one (like Will) is more a weasel-rat.
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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:56 PM
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6. I knew it could happen!
David Brooks found an acorn.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:58 PM
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7. David Brooks can be such a weirdo. But I agree with the fatal cancer part.
lol to David Brooks and Obama emailing back and forth. Maybe Brooks had felt neglected by Obama as of late, I remember when Brokaw asked Obama about a Brooks article (may have been that stupid "two faces of Obama" article), and he said "David Brooks is one of my favorite conservatives, but he is a conservative..who supports McCain..." The next Brooks article was much more favorable to Obama,haha.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:58 PM
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8. Never thought I'd agree with David Brooks.
Not entirely (McCain one of "the two best candidates we've had in a long time"? I think not.), but still.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:58 PM
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9. They can start introducing her as Sarah Metastatic Palin.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:59 PM
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10. LOL. Lieberhole and Limbaugh must be so pissed.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:59 PM
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11. Brooks is getting in ahead of the curve
Edited on Wed Oct-08-08 03:05 PM by alcibiades_mystery
He wants access to the Obama White House; he wants to be the GOP columnist who Obama goes to when he wants to build bridges to the moderate GOP. That's what that column is all about. He knows Obama is going to win big, and he's positioning himself for the next four years. It's certainly encouraging.

It's funny that Brooks would ask Obama if he's read Niebuhr. Niebuhr was, of course, one of the great thinkers of the American Civil Rights movement (which is to say, the civil rights leaders all read and knew Niebuhr, and Niebuhr was intimately involved with a number of civil rights initiatives even in the 1930's. Moral Man and Immoral Society is a classic, by the way.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:24 PM
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20. Ithink you're right about Brooks's intentions. But I've seen Brooks get a little
off the beam with Obama in his column. I think he genuinely likes the guy but finds himself made crazy about it (if that makes sense). And he's spot on with Obama's circle of advisors. In fact, that is one of my favorite things about Obama. I really trust that he will make good, wellthought out judgements about issues and crises. I also like his temperament, no tantrums (which always upset me with Clinton).

Good post, Alcibiades...
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:22 PM
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31. What would happen if Brooks asked the Niebuhr question of Palin?
:yoiks:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 02:59 PM
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12. Yes, WOW! That was definitely impressive and honest.
It's not often you can hear that from either Republicans or Democrats where neither can ever see or say any good about someone in the other party.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:02 PM
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13. What about the contradiction of Palin being such a disastrous candidate ...
... yet McCain, the man who selected her as his running mate, being a great candidate? Doesn't McCain's judgment on Palin demonstrate he is severely flawed?
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:04 PM
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14. A fatal cancer is just what the Republicon party needs n/t
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:09 PM
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15. Bush had those prejudices and Brooks have been praising him for his Ideas for most of the Admin
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:24 PM
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33. yep I think he may have learned from GWB
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:10 PM
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16. Intellectuals on every side of the political spectrum seem to agree that Palin is not fit for office
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:15 PM
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17. Digg link to the video ....
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:16 PM
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18. Pigs just flew by my window.... birds talked, dogs purr....
I can't believe my eyes!
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:19 PM
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19. I'd say she's more like a pus-filled zit on Rush Limbaugh's ass
but then, I'm feeling charitable today. cough
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:24 PM
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21. I am having a real tough time getting my head around Mr. Brook's sudden enlightenment.
How is the barracuda any worse than prez shit-for-brains? Why was he always up prez shit-for-brains' ass? I am very curious about what made him suddenly see the light.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:29 PM
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22. I would add that he is also throwing in those lines
about Obama being a "mediocre senator" to make himself feel better.
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Larry in KC Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:10 PM
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29. Maybe that was the whole point of that particular anecdote
He knew he was doing it, and even wanted to signal Obama that it was just what he was doing. Can't let the Democrat pass without a criticism of some sort, but include the accompanying story for a wink and a nod saying, "see, ignore even the minor criticism. You know why I'm doing it."
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:30 PM
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23. The corporate media on cable n00ze loves them
some cancer in the form of palin.

Shocking that this comes from David Brooks regarding Obama.. but he's wrong about mcick being a good candidate.
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VoodooGuru Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 03:38 PM
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24. Conservatism as we know it has to die for the Republican Party to survive.
What we are watching is, potentially, far greater than the election of one man, even a man whose election carries with it historic import. What we are looking at is the death of Goldwaterism.

That word may sound strange coming from the mouth - all right, the keyboard - of a man who was not alive in 1964, when the word was on the lips of the pundit class. But since modern conservatism can be fairly traced to Goldwater, not Reagan or even Nixon, in my estimation, it fits.

The anti-intellectual streak that runs through the Republican Party - and to which Brooks correctly connects the popularity of Sarah Palin - is what ultimately dooms it to defeat this election, in what appears to be an increasingly spectacular way. When you reject ideas, it cannot be a surprise when people reject you when ideas are needed. Sobriety has come to the American electorate at last, and not a moment too soon. (Arguably, four or eight years too late, indeed.)

We face problems intractable to the anti-intellectuals. The rise of Russia, the costly war in Iraq and the deepening crisis in Afghanistan directly traceable to the misuse of military resources on Bush's frolic and detour in Iraq, the collapse of credit and the cratering of financial giants, these will not be solved by folksiness, by chants, by simple solutions posited by simple minds. They require serious men and women. Only one ticket contains them. Only one ticket will bring them to the seat of power and get down to business. With the majority that the Democratic Party will hold in Congress after this election, it is inevitable that the first hundred days of the Obama administration will be of Rooseveltian sweep and force.

As for conservatism, none of us will weep for its demise. The elephant will withdraw in defeat, and the party elders - the serious ones who remain - will hopefully engage in the kind of self-examination that will transform that party into a partner in governance, not an enemy. When the Republican Party is again nominating men and women more like Lincoln Chafee and less like James Inhofe (who, regrettably, will likely not lose his seat to any but the Grim Reaper) we will be able to put away the weapons of partisanship and not look at our neighbors with fear and distrust.

What becomes of those zealots who take Genesis literally or who take Ayn Rand seriously? Well, hopefully they will be as marginalized as they deserve to be, and not anywhere near the levers of power.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:41 PM
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45. Social conservatism, not all conservatism. The war to define what it means is "on" again
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 03:44 PM by Essene
The culture warriors who rose to power in the late 80s and early 90s have seen themselves gain power using Rove style divisive politics. They've come to define the party and force litmus tests for candidates.

I think there's gonna have to be a rebellion that shatters these constraints.

They are looking back at the Reagan years... and wondering how the heck they fell so far.

Brooks is taking his stand.

He won't be alone. They want an old school intellectual conservatism that's more fiscally oriented and moderate on social issues. It's more cosmopolitan, yet Brooks loves to try to paint it in more pastoral tones (he fails but boy does he try hard).

I think the GOP must explode completely, first.

The nativist, nationalist, xenophobic, anti-intellectual, theocratic side of the GOP just cannot be the definition of "conservative" any more.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:05 PM
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27. Fatal cancer? David must be whoring for a position in an Obama administration.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:08 PM
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28. We should start a support group for disillusioned Pubbie Pundits.
George Will, Charlie Krauthammer, David Brooks, Peggy Noonan.

Almost a quorum.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:21 PM
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30. You forgot Tom Friedman!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:46 PM
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32. I was even more impressed with his description of Obama
Sen Obama is even more brilliant than I had thought.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:40 PM
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34. maybe Kathleen Parker got to him...
when she called for Palin to step down, and backed it up by saying there's a point where your credibility as a journalist is at stake.

To continue to blindly cheerlead McShame/Failin is to increasingly appear as stupid and inane as they are, and to become as irrelevent as they will be.

Better to save yourself by aligning with the ticket with 2 brains, hearts and souls...the one that is thankfully likely to win this go round. (and not one moment too soon)
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:57 PM
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36. K&R
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 06:32 PM
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37. What a choice of words. Is Brooks hinting that he knows something about McCain?
Edited on Wed Oct-08-08 06:33 PM by Skwmom
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 02:33 PM
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38. kick conservatives see danger ahead
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:10 PM
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39. Kick (too late to rec) n/t
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 03:10 PM by ihavenobias
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:12 PM
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40. Holy crap.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:13 PM
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41. Damn! I almost forgive him for the "Obama wouldn't fit in at an Applebees Salad Bar" quip.
:shrug:
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:16 PM
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42. wow.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:31 PM
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43. An amazing comment by Brooks...basically an endorsement. .. nt
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:39 PM
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44. GOP history being made. Mutiny is just starting... and a lot is at stake for the USA
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 03:39 PM by Essene
He's thrown the gauntlet down.

As we know, many GOP pundits have expressed growing concern, and Brooks even joked about being republican.

This is mutiny.

I think there are 2 things going on.

A) folks are trying to re-frame "what went wrong" with the GOP, now that they see this Mccain/Palin 2008 trainwreck. Brooks is laying down his preemptive assault in saying the GOP has caved into populist, insincere stuff and lost its way. He won't be alone in this... but it implies an internal war with the "culture warriors."

B) i sincerely think there's talk of the party exploding and something new happening.

I'm suddenly convinced of it, especially being aware of just how close Bloomberg/Hagal came to being a reality.

I wouldn't be surprised if this notion of "breaking away" even becomes a full scale threat in the coming year. These moderate, cosmopolitan fiscal conservatives are NOT going to sit back and watch the GOP keep going down the same "social conservative" path into 2010.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:50 PM
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47. Excellent post above by Essene...and I agree..
..Perhaps Brooks is starting this revolt right in that column.. Let it begin..
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