So if Drudge is right, Rasmussen tomorrow will have Obama: 50, McCain 45.

[Drunken Irishman]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that means McCain didn't actually gain support, rather Obama lost a point.

That isn't too bad, especially if his number was rounded up and it was barely above .5%, thus meaning if it dipped, it probably dipped by statistical noise and nothing more.

[berni_mccoy]

1. That would still be consistent with Rasmussen's numbers. Obama has varied between 50 and 52%

While McCain has bounced along the bottom at 43-45. Those numbers have been extremely consistent for more than 2 weeks now. I don't see what the story is here.

[Drunken Irishman]

2. Drudge is trying to create a McCain bounce.

You see it with his headline talking about a McCain comeback.

It's quite sad.

[buff2]

3. They are setting it up

to make it easier for the repukes to steal.It's as simple as that.

[Drunken Irishman]

4. No they're not.

:eyes:

[buff2]

7. Have another drink

and stay in your fantasy land. :eyes:

[Drunken Irishman]

9. I don't need to stay in my fantasy land.

I love how everyone thinks Rove is this powerful. How he's going to get every goddamn polling company in America to cook its numbers so they can steal the election.

Ha!

[buff2]

12. Where were you in 2000? And 2004?

Ever heard of them stealing both of those elections? I guess not.

[Drunken Irishman]

13. Where were you in 2000 and 2004?

The election was always close. No candidate had a consistent lead like Obama has in 2008.

Do you not remember that?

[11cents]

20. Thank you.

In 2000 and 2004 the polls were close, and so were the results. We've got enough to fret about without driving ourselves crazy with I'm-more-paranoid-and-therefore-smarter-than-you frantic handwaving that doesn't take basic facts into consideration.

Drudge, FWIW, is simply trying to drive the MSM narrative, having had a record of success with all the tools who say he "rules their world." He's too dumb to know that in this case it's actually reality that's going to count, not media blither.

[buff2]

21. Yes I remember

But the repukes are whipped up in a frenzy thinking their boy might get his ass kicked by a oh heaven forbid a BLACK man. I watch enough tv to see it written all over their faces. They better not try to steal THIS one.

[Drunken Irishman]

23. They'll try, but they won't.

Because it won't be close enough to steal.

[buff2]

25. I'm hoping for a landslide

:thumbsup:

[Cosmic Charlie]

28. those elections swung on 1 state

This one swings on a dozen

They can't steal them all.

[Drunken Irishman]

33. That is a good point.

Kerry's strategy, as was Gore's in 2000, banked on Ohio/Florida, which were toss-ups regardless of whether or not Dems thought they could win them.

With all the talk about stealing, let's not forget had Gore won New Hampshire or his home state, he would have won that election, making Florida irrelevant.

He did not.

Kerry, likewise, could have won Iowa, Colorado @ New Mexico or Nevada and he'd be president right now.

For them to steal, they'd have to steal both Florida & Ohio, along with Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, maybe Indiana and Missouri.

Not. Going. To. Happen.

[alcibiades_mystery]

32. Don't pay attention to the stolen election idiots

They're sad defeatists who only make sense to each other.

[Cosmic Charlie]

27. I guess we should just give up then

:puke:

[Quixote1818]

5. I am guessing they will leave out the ABC poll

It would prop up their narrative of a bounce for McCain.

[Cali_Democrat]

6. Also he says Zogby will be 48-44%

That means McCain will have gained a point.

It's just statistical noise and Drudge is trying to push the notion that it's a McCain bounce.

What a tool.

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. If Drudge considers it positive that Obama is at 50%, then I'm laughing at his ass

That's not erosion of his position.

:rofl:

Even if Mccain convinces 80% of undecideds (unheard of), he loses.

[FreeState]

10. No only that - I doubt swing voters read Drudge

I think if he's trying to manipulate anyone its GOP voters to donate to the RNC

[AllentownJake]

11. Correct me if I'm wrong

with all 3rd party candidates and write ins that totals 1-2% therefore if the election was held tommorow and the poll is accurate Obama has won probably by a landslide even if McCain pulls in 80% of undecided voters.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. You're not wrong

That's exactly what it means.

Why Drudge would be pushing a poll that essentially shows Obama kicking the living crap out of the gopERS IS A GRAND MYSTERY, HOWEVER.

:ROFL:

[ruggerson]

14. Has Drudge ever been right about anything?

[dkf]

15. All I want is that 50%.

[elleng]

17. But another says:

"Powered chiefly by the public's economic concerns, Obama leads John McCain by 10 points among likely voters, 53-43 percent, in this ABC News/Washington Post poll. Though every race is different, no presidential candidate has come back from an October deficit this large in pre-election polls dating to 1936."



http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/story?id=6017487&page=1

[Godhumor]

18. Rass has an extremely stable race right now

From his report yesterday "This is the seventeenth straight day that Obama’s support has stayed in the very narrow range from 50% to 52% while McCain has been at 44% of 45%" If Drudge's numbers are right, that makes it 18 days.

[MidwestTransplant]

19. It was 50 45 2 days ago.

[Drunken Irishman]

22. I agree, by mid-week, Obama will be up 7 again.

[rocktivity]

24. Drudgereport.com is ALWAYS right.

That's the problem with it!


rocknation

[johnnydrama]

26. weekend?

isn't this the normal couple of point downtock that happens on weekends?

[Cosmic Charlie]

29. I wonder why Drudge doesn't have the new ABC poll included...

[Drunken Irishman]

34. He didn't quote the Gallup poll that had Obama up 11, either.

And he completely ignored Sunday's Zogby, which had Obama gaining a point.

[pnwmom]

30. This "change" means nothing -- it has no statistical significance.

And polls are all about statistics.

[flamingdem]

31. Drudge has McCain saying "Ready for a Comeback" on his web site

What a republican DWEEB he is ... trying to create the appearance of McFailure coming up in the polls..

[FreeState]

35. Zogby - Drudge was right... 48 O 44 M - the poll is crap though

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1584

In this latest report, McCain gained eight-tenths of a point, while Obama lost one full point.

While the worldwide economic system underwent dramatic turmoil last week, the poll shows the presidential race remarkably unchanged overall at the end of the first full week of daily tracking. Through the week, Obama has always held a small lead, as large as 6.1 points (on Saturday) and as little as 1.9 points (last Wednesday).

The rolling telephone tracking poll included a sample of 1,206 likely voters collected over the previous three 24-hour periods spanning four calendar days – approximately 400 per 24-hour period from Oct. 9-12, 2008.

Obama retains a substantial 17-point lead among independent voters, but that edge receded from 21 points yesterday. In terms of securing their political bases, both Obama and McCain are doing well. Among Democrats, Obama wins 86% support, while McCain wins 88% support among Republicans.

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Bold added by me to show why its crap - there are more registered Dems than GOP by about 7% - then add the 17% of the 30% of independents. Also the ABC poll was almost 3 times as many people - more accurate - 400 people is to small a sample.