Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

North Dakota is back in play again (Obama 45, McCain 43)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:45 AM
Original message
North Dakota is back in play again (Obama 45, McCain 43)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:46 AM
Response to Original message
1. Cant see link - must log in to see n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:55 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. Good link:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:58 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Text from link:
since it seems to use cookies and sometimes not display properly if not logged in:

Barack Obama is shown with an edge against John McCain in a North Dakota presidential race that has narrowed to a statistical tie, according to a new Forum poll.

The survey shows Obama squeaking past McCain, 45 percent to 43 percent, a lead that falls within the poll’s margin of error and therefore indicates a dead heat, according to political analysts.

Still up for grabs: undecided voters, comprising 12 percent.

“It’s a statistical tossup,” said Jim Danielson, co-director of the Public Affairs Institute at Minnesota State University Moorhead, which conducted the statewide telephone survey for The Forum. Pollsters contacted 606 likely North Dakota voters by telephone Oct. 6-8.

The poll indicates McCain’s once-comfortable lead in North Dakota has melted away as Obama is the widely favored choice among voters who consider the economy the most pressing issue.

Among voters who rank the economy as their top concern, 49 percent favor Obama, while 38 percent back McCain. The economy was far and away the most important national issue among voters, according to the poll, even though a majority regarded their own economic situation as “better off” or the “same” compared to a year ago.

Another troubling sign in the poll for McCain, who has styled himself as a maverick who is not a clone of President Bush: McCain has failed to solidify his hold on the GOP base in North Dakota, where he has the support of just 73 percent of voters identifying themselves as strong Republicans.

In February’s North Dakota Republican caucuses, McCain finished second behind Mitt Romney, barely ahead of Ron Paul, an early sign his campaign was not eagerly embraced by many of the party faithful.

By contrast, Obama has a commanding lead among Democratic voters and is a favorite among independent voters.

McCain’s running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, is shown as neither helping nor hurting the Republican among North Dakota voters. Eighty percent of those polled said McCain’s selection of Palin as running mate had little or no influence on their choice of primary candidate.

If Obama defeats McCain in North Dakota’s Nov. 4 election, it would be a historic loss for the Republicans, who have failed to carry the state in only three presidential elections since 1916, most recently Lyndon Johnson’s defeat of Barry Goldwater in 1964.

Not long ago, North Dakota appeared to be strongly behind McCain, despite Obama’s decision to open field offices throughout the state, an unprecedented presence by a Democratic presidential contender. The Obama campaign recently pulled its staff from North Dakota, shifting them to hotly contested Minnesota and Wisconsin, but a network of volunteers continues to work out of the offices.

The last publicly reported North Dakota presidential poll, taken Sept. 16-17, showed McCain led Obama 53 percent to 40 percent, the latest in a string of surveys this year showing the Republican was ahead in North Dakota. But an early poll, in February, surprised many politicos when Obama was shown leading 46 percent to 42 percent.

With three weeks remaining in the race, with the nation rocked by a financial panic and wars continuing in Iraq and Afghanistan, the two presidential candidates’ fate could be strongly influence by factors outside their control, said Philip Baumann, co-director of the Public Affairs Institute and a professor of political science at MSUM.

“Lots can depend on external situations and developments,” Baumann said.

Despite McCain’s problems in North Dakota, the Republicans’ strong organization in the state still could prove formidable, Danielson said. A party’s machine is crucial in getting its voters to the polls on Election Day.

“If I were going to put my money on it right now, my estimate is the Republicans will have the lead there,” Danielson said.

Still, the poll suggests North Dakota, which holds three of 538 electoral votes, will draw renewed interest and redoubled efforts from both campaigns, Baumann said.

“You could see a scramble from both parties,” he added. “Right now it’s neck and neck. It’s within the margin of error. It could go either way.”

Rollout of ND poll results

- Today: President, most important national issues

- Tuesday: U.S. House, governor, insurance commissioner and most important state issues

- Wednesday: State ballot measures

- Thursday: Job-performance ratings of president, U.S. senators, U.S. congressman, governor and state Legislature

About this poll

Telephone interviews of 606 likely North Dakota voters were conducted Oct. 6-8 in a statewide survey conducted by the Public Affairs Institute of Minnesota State University Moorhead. The poll, with a sample weighted for age, has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Historical background

Democratic presidential candidates have carried North Dakota only three times since 1916. Each Democratic victory was decisive, and two came during the Great Depression:

- 1964: President Lyndon Johnson defeated Barry Goldwater 58 percent to 42 percent.

- 1936: President Franklin Delano Roosevelt beat Alf Landon 69 percent to 31 percent.

- 1932: Franklin Delano Roosevelt defeated President Herbert Hoover 71 percent to 29 percent.

Source: North Dakota Secretary of State

Readers can reach Forum reporter Patrick Springer at (701) 241-5522
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. Thank you :) n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:30 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. You're welcome! :-)
Rick Davis must have crapped his pants when someone told him that Obama is leading in North Dakota! :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:46 AM
Response to Original message
2. YES WE CAN
Make North Dakota go blue. Heck, that would be incredible if we could.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:47 AM
Response to Original message
3. Well the fact Todd Palin is visiting may indicate Obama is doing well there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:09 AM
Response to Original message
6. kick n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:35 AM
Response to Original message
9. There have not been many polls done in ND but Obama did have some decent numbers during the summer:
Research 2000 09/16 - 09/17 500 LV 53 40 McCain +13
Rasmussen 09/08 - 09/08 500 LV 55 41 McCain +14
North Dakota UTU (D) 08/23 - 08/27 400 RV 40 43 Obama +3
Research 2000 07/21 - 07/23 500 LV 45 42 McCain +3
Rasmussen 07/08 - 07/08 500 LV 47 46 McCain +1
======

Obama certainly can win ND.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:57 AM
Response to Original message
10. ND is a tease
The polls out of there remind me of some of those weird ones out of NJ and HI in '04 where it looked like Kerry might have trouble; both states ended up going to Kerry by double-digits. I figure ND is in the bag for McCain, but a poll with an Obama lead this close to the election *is* pretty amazing. Hopefully it at least strikes fear in McCain and causes his state-by-state targeting to be even more mixed-up than it is already!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 09:23 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC