Pentagon inquiry into JK war records?! Maybe now JK will go for jugular.

[henslee]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/05/wus05.xml&sSheet=/news/2004

These fuckers have no shame.

[daa]

1. The same shit they pulled on Clinton

Maybe they will lose again becuase of this.

[IndianaGreen]

22. Judicial Watch is at it again!

the US navy has now agreed to a request by Judicial Watch, a bi-partisan lobby group, for a full inquiry.

Is that bipartisan as the German Nazis were with the Italian Fascists?

Judicial Watch can litigate this issue until election day. Did someone said that Larry Klayman is funded by Scaife?

I will point out that DODIG is non-partisan and run by professionals. The irony is that DODIG is currently investigating some of the activities of the neocons in the Pentagon.

From the Judicial Watch website:

On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, Judicial Watch called upon Senator Kerry to remove the Silver Star citation from his political campaign Internet site pending a review of the granting of the award by the U.S. Navy. Senator Kerry’s political Internet site displays a document listing a “Silver Star with Combat ‘V.’” The Combat “V” device is never awarded with the nation’s third highest award for heroism. A U.S. Navy spokesperson has reportedly stated: “The Navy has never issued a ‘Combat V’ to anyone for a Silver Star.” Additionally, former Navy Secretary John Lehman was quoted with respect to the Silver Star citation as saying: “It is a total mystery to me. I never saw it. I never signed it. I never approved it. And the additional language it contains was not written by me.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/3809.shtml

[GOPAgainstGW]

35. WARNING!!! THAT STORY IS A BOGUS GOP "PLANT" !!!!

They put out 4 fraudulent "plant" articles Friday to get back at the DNC "friends" for sucker punching them at the Rep Convention.

It has to do with this, that I posted at another thread:
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POST 1: - Award winning and best selling author Kitty Kelley points poison pen at Bushes:

A new book on the Bush dynastyis set for release just six weeks before November's knife-edge presidential election. The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty by Kitty Kelley will have an initial print run of 500,000, and the main source is believed to be Sharon Bush, the ex-wife of Neil, President George W Bush's wayward brother.

Kelley, whose unauthorised biographies of Frank Sinatra, Jackie Onassis and the British Royal Family have told tales of affairs, electric-shock treatment and more affairs, has turned her attention to America's first family.

The book could be the most damaging yet for the President, with the publishers, Random House, promising it will "cause controversy".
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Author Kitty Kelley is touting her latest title in enemy territory. A full-page ad for “The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty” is appearing in today’s Republican National Convention Guide, which is distributed to 20,000 conventioneers, staff and others. Kelley's book, which will be published Sept. 14, contains over 700 pages of Bush dirt and scandals. - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5868734 /
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Talk about moxie! Controversial tell-all biographer Kitty Kelley is now touting her upcoming biography of the Bush family at the Republican National Convention in New York. The Family: The Real
Story of the Bush Dynasty is being advertised in the Republican National Convention Guide -- distributed to 20,000 delegates and staff members at the GOP confab! http://www.suntimes.com/output/zwecker/cst-ftr-zp01.htm...
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POST 2: - GOP DIDN"T KNOW THE AD WOULD BE IN THE RNC BROCHURE!

The GOP Is Not The Only Ones That Know How to Play Real Dirty!

Come on people, this is anything go, no holds barred, last man alive -politics

You think the GOP knew that full page ad was going to be in their RNConvention brochure before they has 20,000 copies of it,....Righttttt!

Ya know most print shops are Union Democrat run, not that I'm saying anything of course ;-)

The RNC Guides arrived late at the convention because of "unavoidable equipment problems" - Too late for the GOP to get them reprinted when they find out, and what are they going to do, cry to the media and "market the book" even more before its released.

That’s why Bush-Cheney-GOP retaliated today with the bogus Time poll showing Bush had the new magical 11 point lead now, and put out half a dozen totally fraudulent news articles on various subjects against Kerry and supporting Bush through main stream news sources.

Gee as this pace it’s going to be a wild two more months!

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POST 3 - The Bush-GOP got blindsided by the full page ad for Kelly's book, in the Convention brochure, and it caused a major fuss at the Convention. We know for a fact that Papa H.W. Bush went ballistic!

That is why the GOP-Bush-Texas Mafia machine is striking back so hard with all the new rigged polls, new smear ads, new moveon.org clone GOP 527 to run a new type of Willie Horton and the blacks smear against Kerry, exactly like Papa Bush did in 1988 against Michael Dukakis, blah, blah.

It’s an excellent tactic by the "Democratic friends” :

1..Sucker punch the Bush-GOP Mafia,
2..The public never hears the story,
3..The Bush Mafia goes nuts and does stupid stuff in public that offends Republican voters,
4..The Democratic candidate(s) and the DNC take the positive campaign “high road” in the media
5..Republican voters retaliate and vote for the Democratic candidate. LOL!

It a beautiful move, and I guess the Bush-GOP idiots didn’t learn their lesson in the ’92 Clinton-Papa Bush Prez election. Papa Bush though he was going to win that ’92 election, and even Clinton though he was going to lose the night before the election. Next day Clinton slams Bush 370/168 electoral votes and the rest is history.

What happened, a massive number of Republicans voted against Bush. This “closet Republican” base doesn’t show up in poll numbers. They vote Democrat and many times never tell anyone or admit it to a pollster.

We know for a fact you are going to see this same event happen again in November 2004. There is a huge Republican base that wants no more of Bush-Cheney, including many in their home State of Texas. They will vote very strong for Kerry-Edwards and never show up in the poll numbers.

We think right now that this Republican “disgusted with Bush-Cheney” base is 8 -12 points in the polls for Kerry-Edwards that is underpolling/unreported. That a big number! - NKR

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[ellie]

37. Wow, you know

I am really starting to enjoy your posts! Do you know any people in the Bush campaign? You seem to have a lot of inside knowledge.

[GOPAgainstGW]

36. Judicial Watch is Spineless Wimps - All Ego & No Power! Can't do squat!

[Mz Pip]

2. What could they

find that isn't already out there?

Besides should they be using my hard earned tax dollars looking for terrorists?

MzPip
:dem:

[henslee]

3. What they find is not the point. Announcing the inquiry supports the

illusion that something is wrong. They are keeping the swiftboat crap in the news cycle and its not costing them dime. its taxpayer $$$.
A piece of shit that didnt serve is using government resources to impune a real vet.

[cambria]

11. agreed

I agree - just the idea that they are launching this inquiry makes people think there is something wrong.

P.S. Interesting web site - a friend told me about democraticunderground. I'm so glad there are real Americans out on the web!!

[Doohickie]

13. Welcome, cambria!

Welcome to DU!

[Jack Rabbit]

30. You bet there's something wrong

When the Pentagon is used as a tool in a partisan political smear, that's wrong.

[IndianaGreen]

31. DODIG is non-partisan, made up of professionals

DODIG is currently investigating the activities of some of Wolfowitz's neocons, particularly those of former Comptroller Dov Zackheim.

By statute, DODIG has to investigate any complaint about waste, fraud, and abuse that is filed with their office.

[newyawker99]

32. Hi cambria!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[peacetalksforall]

4. In light of what we're learning about good guys and bad buys in the

DOD, who has agreed to this inquiry? If it's the good guys and they can start and end it soon, it could be very good for Kerry and American citizens and the world.

When it comes to the right wing -

they aimed at Agfghanistan and shot Iraq.

now they've now aimed at Vietnam to hide Iraq.

They have an incredibly bad problem assimilating months, years, and decades - they are rotten at history.

[npincus]

5. abuse of power

after all of the SBVT lies exposed.... shocking. They CAN'T get away with this... this is going too far. Pray for the Mother of ALl Backlashes.

[LostInAnomie]

6. Fucking disgusting

There is no decency in these bastards.

Somebody should force the pentagon to launch an investigation into Bush's disservice to the guard.

[liveoaktx]

7. Doesn't this mean OTHER groups can ask to have Bush's record

examined? There's certainly enough doubt about that to want to put it to rest once and for all.

[BootinUp]

8. We just don't seem to know

how the game is played sometimes.

[liberal N proud]

20. It is time we stand up and say this is not the way the game is played.

Write the media, flood their in-boxes, tell them this is just wrong! and let them know it wrong for them to pander this rhetoric.

[scarletwoman]

9. I see it's those jackals from Judicial Watch

...the US navy has now agreed to a request by Judicial Watch, a bi-partisan lobby group, for a full inquiry. -- "bi-partisan lobby group" my A$$! :grr:

This is downright obscene! This isn't an election campaign, this is full bore character assassination!

sw

[mzmolly]

10. Why was this story dated May 9th?

:shrug:

Something seems suspect?

[liveoaktx]

12. No, British Dating - 5-9- or September 5th

[shivaji]

16. The British use day/month/year format

while we in US use month/day/year.

[A_Possum]

14. Too bad Kerry didn't ask for the inquiry

I suppose it's a matter of not comprehending how ridiculous these people can be, after all.

[UTUSN]

15. We Disposed of This Non-Issue at DU Last Week

When it was Judicial Watch forcing the Navy Dept to "investigate".



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x747479

My Wingnut Vet Is Just Getting to the Navy-"investigating" JK's Medals

Update: After a couple of years that he abided by my p.o.ed demand that he not send me wingnut crap, he started up again last week. I have countered with articles from DU, especially the ones about Shrub's demonic domestic agenda (gutting Medicare, etc.) if he seizes power another 4 years.

I doubt that he reads the articles. He doesn't answer those. Today he sent a NewsMax item about the Navy "investigating" the clerical error about a "V for Valor" on JK's Silver Star. We at DU had disposed of this non-issue a week ago. I didn't want to get into a long term "debate" with this guy, but it's happening. Here's my answer today:

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So you are not concerned about Shrub's plans to gut Medicare and Social Security and to wage perpetual war and to pillage the country-------so all you can gloat about is the Navy's "investigating" a clerical error about KERRY's medals? (Oh, by the way, Shrub doesn't even have any medals to investigate.) This goes beyond malicious pettiness on to short-sighted lack of concern about our country.

1) Judicial Watch is a wingnut organization that harrasses CLINTON and Dems by filing FRIVOLOUS lawsuits. 2) NewsMax is a wingnut rag, which even in your article notes the "clerical error".

This is civilian baiting of civilian ignorance of military regulations and procedures. It was a clerical error that is being blown up into something HUGE, which it is not.

Not only do HIGH admin military staff not know all the regulations at the time they are typing things, the officers who SIGN them don't know enough about what they are signing.

All up and down the chain of command are these little dudes at typewriters with HUGH binders of regulations that are DENSE to read and EASY to mis-read. It's no big deal. I'll wager that a VERY LARGE NUMBER of military personnel records contain errors, that nobody will ever investigate or correct-------unless you're running for President.

In MY DD214, TWO of my eligible medals are not listed. Plus, the number of little star devices on my Vietnam campaign medal is probably wrong.

When somebody files a complaint, the bureaucratic Navy Department MUST "investigate". It SOUNDS "important", doesn't it? Actually, another vet at the Dem discussion board came up with the idea that all us Dem vets should FLOOD the Navy with requests that our records be reviewed-----haha.

[BootinUp]

17. The letter from judicial watch was about the swiftie

liars claims I think, not about the Silver Star with V typo.

I kinda like that idea about flooding them with requests to investigate. Get it on the news, if the military thinks there is something wrong with how they awarded medals than they are all suspect. Of course I am not a vet, and I wouldn't be surprised if vets found that idea not so good.

[GOPAgainstGW]

38. Thanks Excellent Post!!!- GOP Planted that crap article at NewsMax

It was the only place it showed up. We had a licensed private investigator check it out and found out it was another bullshit GOP "plant". Hell 4 GOP plant articles hit last Friday.

We were going to post all this Friday and what was going on when the news came out about President Clinton's heart attack and we got involved in that situation, then everybody blew out of here for the 3 day holiday. - NKR

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[Blue_Roses]

18. This is just another distraction by Bush

move along:eyes:

[nagbacalan]

19. Now this mightily pisses me off, but for different reasons. Why are we

constantly caught unawares. Their vile track record should be no surprise by now. And why don't I see anything about this elsewhere on the media. We can't be all that impotent, or are we?

[Only Me]

29. Judicial Watch web site ..Say it's about the Silver Star... LINK

http://www.judicialwatch.org

Sorry, I meant to post this at the bottom of the thread.

[mailman82]

21. Those Bastards

This is a direct insult to all of us who served in Nam. I am very proud to be a Viet Nam veteran. If they think I donn't deserve my Purple Heart. They can pry it from my cold dead fingers. The Bastards

[newyawker99]

33. Hi mailman82!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[vetwife]

23. Better open up W's too !

[Mick Knox]

24. JUST WAIT until the Navy confirms its an error

All the talking heads with say that Kerry's records are confirmed as wrong .. it's not going to be pretty - all because of some error by a yeoman.

Its going to be played up and spun- that you can take to the bank.

[Clinton Crusader]

34. I dont expect anything different

they wouldnt DO IT otherwise.
:kick:

[GOPAgainstGW]

40. NO WAY IN HELL THE NAVY WILL DO SQUAT AFTER 1/3 OF A CENTURY!!!

[JI7]

25. that's a right wing rag

[henslee]

26. Story has been picked up stateside by Fox and others....

[OneBlueSky]

27. well, someone damned well better demand . . .

that the Pentagon look at Bush's National Guard record to see if he actually completed his service, or if he was AWOL or a deserter . . . maybe a group of friendly generals? . . . or Iraq Veterans Against The War? . . . People for the American Way? . . . all of them? . . .

[Only Me]

28. This is serious....this is the same people that went after

Clinton tooth and nail. They went after him for campaign contributions to the color of his underwear. They also did the little piece on Cheney. What a joke. They need to be investigated
for harrassement. They appear to have done nothing but be a
legal vulture for the Repugs. They use legal means to rip apart a persons integrity. And they get by with it time and time again.
Something must be done about this....http://www.judicialwatch.org

[GOPAgainstGW]

39. Well It Didn't Work Hun, Clinton Slammed Bush 370/168 Electoral Votes!!!

and it ain't going to work this time. Judicial Watch is a worthless organization with no credibility what-so-ever! They are all mouth and ego, that only idiots listen to. End of Story!

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