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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:45 PM
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Poll question: Do you generally have a positive or negative view of Chris Matthews?
What does DU think about Tweety?

(By the way, can someone please tell me how he got that nickname here? I've been posting here since '05 and still don't know.)
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Whalestoe Donating Member (928 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:45 PM
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1. He's like your crazy Uncle. I like 'em.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:47 PM
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2. Not so simple a question. You need a 'love-hate' category.
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 07:51 PM by babylonsister
And here's an old DU thread on that very topic of his name with some hilarious responses. I don't think DU liked him much that month.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2826864#2827951
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AnAnonymousDemocrat Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:48 PM
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3. A few years ago, it was negative
A lot of people don't realize that he wasn't the "executive producer" of his own show until a couple of years ago. Once he got control, he was able to be himself.

The Tweety you see today is the real deal.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:49 PM
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4. I expect to be campaigning for Matthews against Specter in '10.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:51 PM
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8. Is CM a Dem? n/t
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:08 PM
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20. Yes.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:50 PM
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5. Depends on the day (eom)
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:52 PM
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9. Amen. n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:51 PM
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6. Dude, I know he has split personalities but he's the only newscaster who makes me horny.
Seriously, when CM gets going on a Repub...I get all sorts of excited. It's unnatural how he gets me going. My sister is even excited when he comes on and we're looking desperately for Tweety t-shirts. I even like his looney flips now because it's so part of his character at this point. You never know where he'll float because in secs he's all over the place.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:51 PM
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7. by a narrow margin, have to go with positive
Chris gets it, when it comes to governance, and he's got basically good notions about it.





But God Damn!!
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MJkcj Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:53 PM
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10. gotta love Chris
I like him almost all the time. yeah sometimes he plays into the Republican talking points (it drove me crazy when he went on and on about Hilary not backing Barak and how party unity would destroy us blah blah blah...) but most of the time I find him honest and interesting. especially when he will ask a guest a question and when they try and answer with the usual spin he stops them and makes them answer the question. he entertains me.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:53 PM
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11. When Matthews is on, he is amazing. He can make a Republican shit themself with a glance.
Yet every now and again he feels the need to be a complete and total douchebag.
Overall, I like him. I think he's one of the best commentators out there for our side. I'd love him if he were more consistent, but I'll take the good with the bad, because the good is so very very good.
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:55 PM
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12. I voted positive
but it wasn't very many months ago that I'd have voted the other way.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:56 PM
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13. I little birdy told me how he got his name but I forgot
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:26 PM
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23.  Etymology of "Tweety"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2826864#2827951

Chris Matthews

From Demopedia

Etymology of "Tweety". During Campaign 2000 the media noise machine was swooning over the nicknames Shrub was giving some of them. Media Whores Online ran a contest to nickname Chris MATTHEWS. In the first 3 or so weeks, there was no clear, catchy front runner, with "The Screamer" sort of leading. Then one of MATTHEWS's own Hardball staff leaked to MWO that they themselves called him "Tweety" because of the Clairol shade he favored. This was immediately declared the winner. But in some quarters, it wasn't entirely satisfactory. For one thing, by the time the name was declared, the shade had changed to platinum, leading to a suggestion he be called "Carole LOMBARD".
Plus, "Tweety" sounded too affectionate.

Then M-TV held its 20th or 25th or whatever anniversary, and all the cable echo chambers were doing segments of Britney shedding her duds down to almost nothing. Not to be left behind, Tweety followed suit, with a guest "culture" commentator from Time Mag, the young humor columnist, Joel STEIN. The staff kept re-running the Britney clip, and Tweety was clearly DROOLING disgustingly. STEIN said, "You're beginning to creep me out." Tweety responded, "Yeah, well, wait till YOU're 50." This led to the suggestion that "Tweety" be modified to "Tweezer" to retain the hair reference while canceling out the affection factor and also adding the (dirty old) "geezer" angle.

Darrell HAMMOND "Doing" Tweety on SNL. Tweety's ego was massively stroked after the debut of HAMMOND's impersonation of him, either in 2001 or 2002. He said, "I am now an ICON: I have been 'done' on Saturday Night Live'." The funniest line in the debut was HAMMOND as Tweety, cracking himself up with, "For the...FIFTY...people who watch this show (Hardball, not SNL)..." In the first few times HAMMOND featured him, the target was Tweety himself--manically interrupting, spitting, and drooling. However, the characterization evolved, not true to the original, where Tweety became the "rational" character surrounded by oddball, extremist "guests", with HAMMOND-Tweety shaking his head in disbelief at their partisan spin.

"Turning" from Being a Democrat. He (like G.E.RUSSERT and Pat CADDELL) still trades on having been a Democrat in the CARTER/O'NEILL era. In the hothouse of big time political flunkydom, STATUS and POWER come from the SUCCESS of your boss. RAYGUN kicked Tweety's bosses' rears, and Tweety gravitated to admiring that "success". When he started up his media career he was mentored by G.E. RUSSERT, who had himself already started "turning" by "reaching out" to LIMBOsevic and expending his formerly-Lib-bleeding-heart on those poor wingnuts who had been maligned and marginalized, lo those many years. Tweety started doing video valentines to RAYGUN, walking arm in arm with Nancy. He might have tapped into the frenzy of the FAKE impeachment, but "hatred of the CLINTONs" isn't what made him turn. The last time he was identifiably a Democrat was sometime after 1988 when Hardball (the book) was published.

How Tweety "Executed" DONAHUE on MSNBC. Tweety was on his book tour for another one of his "books" (large type, wide spaces between lines, blank half-pages). It was in the jingoistic hysteria in the run-up to the illegal Iraq attack. The book was about supposed "Americanism" --an American Civ 101 ripoff about books and movies and cultural stuff that are essentially American (think, "The Great Gatsby"). So Phil welcomed him as a colleague and peer on Phil's show for the full hour to plug the book. From the moment he appeared, there was a strange, deadly snake look in Tweety's snake eyes. Phil was walking around, apparently not sensing anything, while Tweety was motionless, following him only with his eyes. Phil brought up something or other questioning blind jingoism, and Tweety STRUCK! He started out with venom dripping, "You see THIS is EXACTLY what's wrong with you Liberals: You are NEGATIVE about this country, you find NOTHING good about it," and on and on. It took awhile before Phil figured out what was happening. Later, Phil was sitting at the table with Tweety and, weaker and weaker, did some of his trademark shoulder shrugging and arm waving. Tweety delivered the coup de grace, "What's THIS (mimicking the movements)??!! What's with the --APE-- movements???" Days or a week or two later, Phil's cancellation was announced and took effect.

How Tweety "Triggered" a Gun Incident (re: Kathleen WILLEY). At the height of the FAKE impeachment, Ms WILLEY claimed that a mystery jogger had threatened her or her cat or somebody. Several months later, there was gossip that the jogger had been identified. Tweety hosted her and it appeared they had discussed the identity off camera. He tried mightily to get her to say the name on the air, which she wouldn't do. Finally, he himself blurted it out, "Was it Name/Surname?" She would not confirm it. Within days there was a bizarre incident, with the mentally disabled brother of Pat and Bay BUCHANAN going with a gun to the house of the supposed jogger, where there were only some foreign exchange students present. Later it was determined that the person Tweety named on the air had NOTHING to do with the supposed jogger incident.

"Heroes" Tweety and Tom DeLAY. In the aftermath of the 07-24-98 shooting of two Capitol police officers when the slain officers were duly eulogized and called heroes, Tweety latched on to this, the way we have seen him attempt to glorify himself in other instances: Like saying he was assigned in the Peace Corps and "WALKED THE SAME GROUND" THAT CHURCHILL passed through. Or when he said, "I am an ICON! I have been 'done' by SNL!". So now that the Capitol policemen were being called heroes, Tweety came forward to say that HE had been a Capitol policemen, TOO, JUST LIKE THEM, when he was starting out. It turns out that he had worked a (temporary?) job for three months as that. In all the years before the officers were shot and eulogized, he probably NEVER referred to that job, most likely thinking of it as a rent-a-cop turn, until he could see in retrospect the glory that he had been DESTINED to from the beginning.
But he is not the only glory hog. When that incident was happening, the news of the moment reported that Tom DELAY had hopped a plane out of town and immediately turned around in Houston when the incident was over. This show of courage is why he has been dubbed, "Tom-DePLANE!-DePLANE!-DELAY".

But searches of countless news reports of that time show no mention of the hopping-the-plane. Only this is left:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm /... "...House members, many rushing out of town, did not have to remain behind. DeLay slipped out the main door of the Capitol less than 15 minutes after the shooting. He looked stricken. Asked if he'd seen anything, he said, "Did I ever. I don't want to talk about it." Aides rushed him into his waiting car. ...."
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:57 PM
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14. Good beats annoying across the finish line by a length or two.
I'll take the bad as long as I'm assured a Republiscum being verbally horsewhipped at regular intervals, because it is a beautiful thing when lays the lumber on the lying, scum sucking, fuckbags.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:58 PM
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15. Lately he has remembered his roots.
He is preparing for a Democratic run.
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MamaDem Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:01 PM
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16. I like the crazy uncle image. One thing I always like is he remembers his
political roots. I love that when something gets to him, he cannot drop it - kind of Letterman-esque. He holds suh a grudge about blatant missteps (for both parties) and I find hat quite amusing.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:02 PM
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17. Both. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:06 PM
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18. The nickname
I always assumed it was this:

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:07 PM
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19. It was very positive in 2002 when he wrote anti-Iraq war articles in the San Francisco Chronicle
like these two editorials against the coming Iraq war in which he attacked the neocons in the Bush Administration for their rush to war:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2002/02/17/IN167643.DTL

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/06/09/IN84658.DTL

Then he fell in love with a Chimp in a flight suit and started having solid crap on his show molded into the shape of Tom Delay and others.

But he's been much better during this current election season, especially since MSNBC demoted him from the anchor's chair on debate nights.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:10 PM
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21. He's an assclown.
Sometimes he's serious, and is at least able to call McCain/Palin on the worst of their bullshit.

But that's not saying a lot. It just looks awesome because of the dearth of non-corporatist voices on TV. He is far from swoon-worthy.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:32 PM
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27. He's a joke, without a shred of objectivity.
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:17 PM
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22. Negative then, negative now
I've always thought he is a loud, obnoxious, self-serving asshat. Even if he had something to say worth listening to, I don't think I could tolerate his style and focus. Ha! Fair enough!
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:28 PM
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24. Negative view
He votes GOP (he admitted it the other day). He was one of the worst savagers of Gore and Kerry. He is fair to Obama, but how can he not be. Obama is running a 52-42 race, he cant spin this one.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:29 PM
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25. He's been good more than awful in recent memory.
Certainly no Keith or Rachel, but he's definitely the third best employee of NBC at the moment.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:30 PM
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26. When he is on, there is no one more devestating.
Thing is, you never know which Tweety will show up.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:33 PM
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28. There's bend-with-the-wind DUers for ya!
:rofl:
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:44 PM
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29. tweety = a box of chocolates. n/t
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 09:01 PM
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30. He's a sexist pig.
A complete waste of space.
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